Darth Vapour
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yup your saving money or alteast you have money in your pocket lol rather then someone elses for the time being that is
How Much Would Bernie Sanders' Ideas Actually Cost?
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Darth Vapour
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Nixon had to take you off the gold standard there would of been a rush for your gold after France demanded there owed money be paid in gold this open the door to other countries demanding gold .. even then USA already was in debt to other countries
and even then fort knox didnt have enough gold in there to pay people off
i wonder ??? you think there is any gold at fort knox ??? or is there just a iou in the vault
UncleBuck
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so let me see if i have this right:
george w bush turns a surplus into the most massive deficit of all time, and you praise him.
barack obama takes that record setting deficit he was given and slashes it by over a trillion, the most in american history by one president, and he is worthy of blame?
yeah, you're totally not racist.
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UncleBuck
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i can!
bush's deficits just kept going up.
obama's keep going down.
but it's obama who is bad, and bush who was good at money stuff.
thus spake the racist righties.
Harrekin
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Are you literally stupid or just really really really really high?
You know it'd take like 20 years to pay back a $1000 credit card debt with interest if you're paying the minimum?
Elwood Diggler
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increase taxes on the 1%. cut military spending. tax any U.S. corp that moves jobs out of the country. if they build their products in another country they can sell them there, not here.
cut all foreign aid
close all military bases overseas
stay the fuck out of the middle east
tax hedge funds at 90%. they create nothing, build nothing and society would be better off without that industry
the bullshit has gone on too fucking long. we could have rebuilt a big percentage of america with what the shrub wasted in iraq
simple
cut all foreign aid
close all military bases overseas
stay the fuck out of the middle east
tax hedge funds at 90%. they create nothing, build nothing and society would be better off without that industry
the bullshit has gone on too fucking long. we could have rebuilt a big percentage of america with what the shrub wasted in iraq
simple
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Harrekin
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Tax hedge funds at 90% ??
You know how many pension funds use hedge funds to ensure they can pay out to all their customers?
Why do you hate the elderly?
Your entire post was a bunch of ideologue mumbo-jumbo repeated with little or no critical thought in the policies put forward.
Elwood Diggler
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what do hedge funds produce or provide? other than derivatives, credit swaps and other financial horseshit?
as far as mumbo jumbo goes, i did read your response and have given it the proper consideration since hedge funds are:
financial partnerships that pool investors' money and transact in the market to make returns that beat market averages. Hedge funds have similar mandates as mutual funds in this sense, but the major similarities end there. Compared to mutual funds, hedge funds are less regulated; have more stringent minimum investment requirements; pursue more flexible and potentially risky strategies; and operate with far less disclosure.
Accredited investors are allowed to invest directly in hedge funds, although some funds operate with non-accredited investors; U.S. securities laws dictate that at least a plurality of hedge fund participants are accredited. Since hedge fund participants are considered "sophisticated," these investment vehicles do not receive regulatory oversight from the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, or SEC, and therefore have much greater operational flexibility. Hedge funds are able to invest in alternative assets, make use of long and short strategies, purchase derivatives and leverage their assets. In fact, the name "hedge fund" refers to the tendency to increase gains and reduce risks through these tactics. The strategy for any specific hedge fund is laid out in its offering memorandum.
Read more: What does a hedge fund do? http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/122414/what-does-hedge-fund-do.asp#ixzz3pfnaE010
just for further humor...................
Agecroft believes that overall approximately 5% of pension plan assets are invested in hedge funds and pension plans which have approved an allocation to hedge funds having an average of 8% of their assets devoted to this sector. In a fully discretionary asset allocation model, with no constraints, hedge funds would assign an allocation multiple times this current level, which is where Agecroft believes the industry will gravitate over time. The current pension allocation is only a fraction of the allocation of many of the leading endowment funds, many of whom have up to 50% of their portfolio invested in hedge funds.
http://www.agecroftpartners.com/papers-pension_fund_evolution.html
Harrekin
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Yeah, cos they don't provide working capital to businesses or anything...
The_Herban_Legend
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Reagan is an idiot! He was never in his right mind and probably had Alzheimer during his presidency. The fact that he believes in a heaven or hell, only validates my point.
Uncle Ben
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Millions (in their right mind) disagree with you - he was one of our greatest presidents, a true legacy and a statesman which are few and far between these days - witness Obama.
nitro harley
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Poopy pants,i can!
bush's deficits just kept going up.
obama's keep going down.
but it's obama who is bad, and bush who was good at money stuff.
thus spake the racist righties.
You are using the bail out to make it look like BarryO has achieved a reduction in deficit like it was a long standing dept. It looks to me like it just got back to where bushes deficit ended. So I don't see an achievement for BarryO at all. And my health care went up another 25%, thanks BarryO.
Elwood Diggler
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pnwmystery
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Sucks for you because my healthcare costs went waay the hell down. I used to have to pay upwards of $5,000 a year for medication that treats an autoimmune disease. Now I pay somewhere in the avenue of $100-$200 a year for it.
Harrekin
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Elwood Diggler
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GranolaCornhola
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I read today that the estimated costs for Sanders' healthcare program alone would cost roughly 15 Trillion dollars over the course of ten years. That's one thing I love about the socialist types, there are no ills in society that they can't fix....with your money of course. I just love how the dems squeal about paying ones "fair share" in taxes. Al Sharpton used to include it in all his speeches, of course now he owes millions to the IRS for tax evasion. Obamas man Geithner, him too. Kerry, ooh yeah, he had his yacht stored in another state to avoid paying his " fair share". The lying theiving, opportunistic fucks called the Clintons did the same, and actually pardoned cheats for money. Don't worry obama said only those making over 250 grand would see an increase in taxes, but thats right he lied, and he fucking knew it. They even said were it not for the "stupidity" of Americans, obamacare would never had passed. They all are lying bastards.
Padawanbater2
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Had you watched the clip in the OP you could have saved yourself some trouble. Sanders' healthcare plan will cost $15 trillion, but the plan we use now will cost $20 trillion. You do the math on that one..
Cheaper, just like I said