How often to you replace your flower bulbs?

gladstoned

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That was my first question. (using a light meter and when they read low, change them, simple as fuck - no guess work, guess work and medication sometimes don't even look at each other. lol) I was told by a hydro guy that you literally need to mount the meter and it need to constantly 'read' the meter and see it go down, you can't just point at it once a week. I was shocked because usually the hydro guy says that you have to have whatever it is you are looking at. lol. Someone else may be able to explain that better, but he told me it wasn't that easy.
 

LT1RX7 Drifter

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That was my first question. (using a light meter and when they read low, change them, simple as fuck - no guess work, guess work and medication sometimes don't even look at each other. lol) I was told by a hydro guy that you literally need to mount the meter and it need to constantly 'read' the meter and see it go down, you can't just point at it once a week. I was shocked because usually the hydro guy says that you have to have whatever it is you are looking at. lol. Someone else may be able to explain that better, but he told me it wasn't that easy.
light meter do not owrk ike that he is just tring to push a sale, remember its there job to help you spend money, for the record i have had new bulbs that were just as bright as 6 month old bulbs with 3 cycles on it
 

gladstoned

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light meter do not owrk ike that he is just tring to push a sale, remember its there job to help you spend money, for the record i have had new bulbs that were just as bright as 6 month old bulbs with 3 cycles on it
I agree, but if you read it, I said I was surprised because they actually talked me out of the sale by saying light meters don't work like that. I have tons of shit I don't need. lol
 

Cory and trevor

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Anyone bother to use a light meter on new bulbs and watch the degradation curve of their output or make the decision to change them through the use of some type of PAR meter?
Had one I snatched from work but it broke and they are too expensive to snatch again but I did notice around the 20% degradation over a year of 12/12 so that seems factual to me.
 

LEGALGROWCO

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I've been waiting to hear someone say that. I use the super HPS and bought a few MH Blue to check them out. I love the dual arc idea, that is why I bought a growzilla, but getting a dual arc bulb sounds easier than having both lights. lol
I have been entertaining the idea of switching to dual arc bulbs and i am wondering if by putting the two filaments in one bulb, the w of hps spectrum is reduced in relation to a normal hps or if it is still a true 1000w hps with an extra spectrum.

a growzilla is equivalent to 1 1000w hps and 1 1000w mh, while the dual arc bulb is a single bulb on 1 1000w ballast. so wouldn't this mean neither the hps or mh filaments are actually 1000w? more like 500w each or something similar?

2 1000w dual arc = 1 1000w grow zilla = 1 1000w hps + 1 1000w mh???

The theoretical upside to dual arcs being more even light distribution throughout.

Further, is it a 50hps/50mh distribution from the bulb? do we even want that? what is ideal ratio i guess is what i'm wondering?

Maybe 4 1000w hps + 1 1000w mh is better than 5 1000w dual arc.

Ok fuck it.... i'm going with plasma!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

gladstoned

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I have been entertaining the idea of switching to dual arc bulbs and i am wondering if by putting the two filaments in one bulb, the w of hps spectrum is reduced in relation to a normal hps or if it is still a true 1000w hps with an extra spectrum.

a growzilla is equivalent to 1 1000w hps and 1 1000w mh, while the dual arc bulb is a single bulb on 1 1000w ballast. so wouldn't this mean neither the hps or mh filaments are actually 1000w? more like 500w each or something similar?

2 1000w dual arc = 1 1000w grow zilla = 1 1000w hps + 1 1000w mh???

The theoretical upside to dual arcs being more even light distribution throughout.

Further, is it a 50hps/50mh distribution from the bulb? do we even want that? what is ideal ratio i guess is what i'm wondering?

Maybe 4 1000w hps + 1 1000w mh is better than 5 1000w dual arc.

Ok fuck it.... i'm going with plasma!!!!!!!!!!!!
That literally hurt my head trying to follow. It's sunday, I have been reading and medicating all day(and caught up on the weed nerd). I need to reread this in morning. lol. Two 1000w dual arc bulbs in one growzilla would make some good shit! I would just rather have two raptors without any hesitation at all.
 

stumpjumper

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I have been entertaining the idea of switching to dual arc bulbs and i am wondering if by putting the two filaments in one bulb, the w of hps spectrum is reduced in relation to a normal hps or if it is still a true 1000w hps with an extra spectrum.
I believe it works out to be a 600w HPS and a 400w MH..
 

gladstoned

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I believe it works out to be a 600w HPS and a 400w MH..
Seriously? I bought a growzilla light which is one of the most expensive hoods. A dual 600w lumatek, one of the most expensive ballasts. A 600w hortilux superhps and a 400 MH blue. A Raptor has a better footprint and I love them. I bought the growzilla to check it out and don't get me wrong, I'm gonna use the shit out of it. lol. But I want to know if you are 100% on those bulbs.
Actually my even bigger question is, am I still best using a 1000w MH blue for veg and 1000w Super HPS for bloom and go through the hassle of swapping the bulbs or moving the plants to the appropriate room, tent, etc.
 

stumpjumper

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Seriously? I bought a growzilla light which is one of the most expensive hoods. A dual 600w lumatek, one of the most expensive ballasts. A 600w hortilux superhps and a 400 MH blue. A Raptor has a better footprint and I love them. I bought the growzilla to check it out and don't get me wrong, I'm gonna use the shit out of it. lol. But I want to know if you are 100% on those bulbs.
Actually my even bigger question is, am I still best using a 1000w MH blue for veg and 1000w Super HPS for bloom and go through the hassle of swapping the bulbs or moving the plants to the appropriate room, tent, etc.
Yeah I'm sure about the bulb.

The BEST would be to use the MH for veg and BOTH for bloom actually.. But the HPS alone will do just fine.

Me and a buddy ran a 1000w HPS and 1000w MH together quite a few years back and had HUGE 3' colas bigger than my arm...
 

gladstoned

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So then why would you buy a dual spectrum instead of a MH Blue. Don't they cost the same, like $240 each or some shit. I mean buying them online and spending $200 you sure as hell want the better one right? I'm gonna check prices real quick.
 

stumpjumper

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Well because you only need one ballest to run one I guess... I personally am happy with the results of a HPS alone. I don't need anything more potent..
 
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