how prevent rootbound while micro growing

fivefour11

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hello , am growing white widow indoor 1 month old , 12/12 from seedling am growing it in 1,5 L small pot , i know that if you dont transplant to bigger pot you will risk of rootbound and in same time i see middle size cool plant in small pots even in cups , the question is how to prevent rootbound while you micro grow is there any trick , does keep vegetative stage short will prevent root spread more or whats the trick , my plant begin the flowering stage while its 13 cm tall vegetative stage pass so fast with 12/12 , am in beginning of flowering stage and i cant transplant , want solution to have bushy plant with less risk of rootbound , thanks !
 
Cookie Rider

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I'm in the same boat.
So far I've figured not too strong a feed, smaller more often feedings.
I'm considering a feed, splash of water, feed, splash of water, routine.
I've changed things this time, coming from 3 and 5 gallons w a 4-8 week veg. To 1 gal and 2-3 week veg.(6-10" tall at flip)
 
fivefour11

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Cookie Rider said:
I'm in the same boat.
So far I've figured not too strong a feed, smaller more often feedings.
I'm considering a feed, splash of water, feed, splash of water, routine.
I've changed things this time, coming from 3 and 5 gallons w a 4-8 week veg. To 1 gal and 2-3 week veg.(6-10" tall at flip)
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hello cookie rider , I feed plant week ago with dry organic fertilizer 4-3-3. and liquid chicken manure for nitrogen I water with once a week , my soil is clay with little bit compost help draining and its garden clay soil with natural nuts , if like ypu told i need to feed it lightly better i continue xith manures and organic compost , just my only issue that i didnt test the soil and i dont know rate of phosphorus , i got chicken manure for nitrogen and sheep manure for potass
 
spliffendz

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I'm not doing micro but have 4 different plants in what I consider 'small' pots, I used to use huge builder buckets as hempys, these are soil being fed coco nutes. I'm not actually sure the size in litres, but they measure 4" high and 5" diameter, will have pics tomorrow but due to technical reasons can't just yet.

Rootbound has been on my mind ever since but they seem to be doing fine flowering besides the obvious need for watering more often than larger pots. Tbh I still don't understand after reading various posts on whether roots grow during flower or not.

Also keep in mind that some dudes grow huge colas in party drink cups another phenomenon I don't get.
 
OJAE

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-Cannazym or similar to eat dead roots
- I'm not positive but i think you can trim the roots with scissors and add new soil below, sure i saw that done somewhere. obviously not in flower or with autoflowers i would think
 
Budzbuddha

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Wouldn’t trip too much about size ... you are going straight 12/12. Plant will have a much shorter veg and move to sexxing out when mature.

You can grow a solo under 12/12 ... so there really isn’t much of an issue . If you were really concerned about root bound you would be on longer cycle.
Also it would make ZERO SENSE to up pot the container if you are going 12/12 from start. I recommend lst training / bonzai for micro grows.
 
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The only thing that I see as being root bound is that there is less soil to buffer out your feed and water. I just cut a beer cup grow (0.5 L), had perlite as the grow media, the cup was just one big root mass, it looked more packed than a package of Chinese noodles (ate it once and threw the rest away, tons of salt). My water contained my feed and I watered it multiple times a day although I could have gotten away with once a day. I was trying to get the most out of it. The plant was happy till I did something wrong, burnt the leaves. I still managed to get 2 0z off her.

 
Budzbuddha

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Feeding is ridiculously easy in micro grows.
If running good soil medium ( already ammended) like FFOF - all you do is add a scoop or so of soil to top dress - water in at proper ph and leave it alone.

No reason to overthink feeding in such a small container .... simple wet / dry period. Another option - Dry fertilizer “ scratched in “ at top soil - for your size about teaspoon ( + or - ) spread over and watered in . Run the feed about a week apart to limit heavy build up. Once a week.
 
Budzbuddha

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It’s the same thinking with SOG grows ....

I run 1 gallon SOG style soil bags , and let it go under 12/12. Layered soil mix / myco / EWC and water only grow.

In a way , I prefer 1 gallons - less medium waste and full use of root mass.

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fivefour11

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Budzbuddha said:
Feeding is ridiculously easy in micro grows.
If running good soil medium ( already ammended) like FFOF - all you do is add a scoop or so of soil to top dress - water in at proper ph and leave it alone.

No reason to overthink feeding in such a small container .... simple wet / dry period. Another option - Dry fertilizer “ scratched in “ at top soil - for your size about teaspoon ( + or - ) spread over and watered in . Run the feed about a week apart to limit heavy build up. Once a week.
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hello mate , my ph is 7 , soil is clay fertile garden soil mixed with compost and chicken manure and am going organic i use week ago 100 gram of 4-3-3 dry organic fertilizer , can i continue with chicken / sheep manure while its nutrients are light ?
 
fivefour11

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printer said:
The only thing that I see as being root bound is that there is less soil to buffer out your feed and water. I just cut a beer cup grow (0.5 L), had perlite as the grow media, the cup was just one big root mass, it looked more packed than a package of Chinese noodles (ate it once and threw the rest away, tons of salt). My water contained my feed and I watered it multiple times a day although I could have gotten away with once a day. I was trying to get the most out of it. The plant was happy till I did something wrong, burnt the leaves. I still managed to get 2 0z off her.

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the plant look’s good ,
how old are she and what mistake u did for burn the plant
 
Budzbuddha

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fivefour11 said:
hello mate , my ph is 7 , soil is clay fertile garden soil mixed with compost and chicken manure and am going organic i use week ago 100 gram of 4-3-3 dry organic fertilizer , can i continue with chicken / sheep manure while its nutrients are light ?
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Budzbuddha said:
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the pic is taken week ago the pot is broken :oops::lol:
am using 200 W cfls 100 w per square feet , 3500 k , mixture of day light and warm light and am keeping plant near the bulb thats why i think its short , what do you think what i do for make things better , i was growing the seedling outdoor then when temperature get changed i do fast setup for plants survive
 

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Another Beer Cup Grow.

Blurgaberry CBD Feminized 1:1 CBD:THC. Trimmed a bit if stalk from a clone-to-be and thought I might try seeing if it will root. Seems viable. Let's see how I can manage in a cup. Drilled a bunch of holes in the side and have an inch of the bottom as a reservoir. Perlite and vermiculite...
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Clone from a stalk I cut off a clone on May 8. Blurgaberry CBD Feminized 1:1 CBD:THC

Flip on June 4.



I ran out of the Maxibloom, it was no longer being imported to Canada, and I went to a garden store fert. I think I nutrient locked her out, I flushed and then continued on. Thinking about it, I poked holes in the side of the cup to give the roots some air, might have helped.
 
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fivefour11

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Another Beer Cup Grow.

Blurgaberry CBD Feminized 1:1 CBD:THC. Trimmed a bit if stalk from a clone-to-be and thought I might try seeing if it will root. Seems viable. Let's see how I can manage in a cup. Drilled a bunch of holes in the side and have an inch of the bottom as a reservoir. Perlite and vermiculite...
www.rollitup.org



Clone from a stalk I cut off a clone on May 8. Blurgaberry CBD Feminized 1:1 CBD:THC

Flip on June 4.



I ran out of the Maxibloom, it was no longer being imported to Canada, and I went to a garden store fert. I think I nutrient locked her out, I flushed and then continued on. Thinking about it, I poked holes in the side of the cup to give the roots some air, might have helped.
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the plant looks happy , tell me what you advice me to do for make it little bit taller , plant age 23 days , sorry for not so clean view LOL
 

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fivefour11 said:
the plant looks happy , tell me what you advice me to do for make it little bit taller , plant age 23 days , sorry for not so clean view LOL
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I had mine on 24 hrs before I flopped her. Also the clone was taken from a plant going into flower. Look up mostorcropping. Other than that I am new to all this. Just got lucky I guess.
 
fivefour11

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I had mine on 24 hrs before I flopped her. Also the clone was taken from a plant going into flower. Look up mostorcropping. Other than that I am new to all this. Just got lucky I guess.
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okay , you use only perlite as soil and it works well ?
 
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fivefour11 said:
okay , you use only perlite as soil and it works well ?
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No problem. I did a Hempy type of grow, the bottom inch or so held some of the water. As the plant went into flower I put some tape around some of the lower holes so it had more to drink from. And drink it did.
 
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