How to make Colloidal Silver to make Feminized seeds

born2killspam

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That will work, but will take a long time regardless of setup since it just can't pump alot of current..
If you have a multimeter, measure R between the electrodes and use V=IR and a resistorto create ~1V drop across the electrodes..
eg: Say your electrodes are separated by a 100ohm resistance.. With no resistor, I = 24V/100ohm = 0.24A.. But you'd be dropping all 24V across those electrodes, and allowing those junk reactions.. But with a 2.2kohm resistor in series, the new current would only be I=24V/2300ohm=0.01A, but the voltage dropped across the electrodes themselves would be V=0.01A*100ohm=1V, which disallows those higher energy reactions at the cost of reduced current.. Faraday explained how much current it takes to liberate a mole of atoms if you're interested..
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
any grow sites or places selling premade solutions? I eventually will probably get deeper into this but I do have a spoecific plant thats cl,one only that i would like to get back up seeds from and if its availiable premade or the solution can be bought then mixed with water I would do that for a first try.. any links or places to grab the silver collodial
 

pinkus

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any grow sites or places selling premade solutions? I eventually will probably get deeper into this but I do have a spoecific plant thats cl,one only that i would like to get back up seeds from and if its availiable premade or the solution can be bought then mixed with water I would do that for a first try.. any links or places to grab the silver collodial
you can buy CS at health food stores, I don't know the concentration or anything though. It's a natural antibiotic.
 

born2killspam

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Not the best choice.. We don't actually want 'colloidal' silver.. The stuff you speak of is elemental silver clusters so small they suspend to form a colloid.. We want ionic silver, Ag+ ions.. Electrolysis provides this, so does using a solution containing silver salts like silver nitrate, or silver thiosulfate..
 

pinkus

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Not the best choice.. We don't actually want 'colloidal' silver.. The stuff you speak of is elemental silver clusters so small they suspend to form a colloid.. We want ionic silver, Ag+ ions.. Electrolysis provides this, so does using a solution containing silver salts like silver nitrate, or silver thiosulfate..
Well, i'm glad that you know what you are talking about, I sure as hell don't :? +rep bottom line is, are NepaleseG's specs right?

thanks B2Kspam :eyesmoke:
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
so born can i buy that solution from any maybe science lab or chemical supplier online? Or where is a good place to buy pure silver and how much do i need as in how many times before the silver disolves completely and is useless
 

born2killspam

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Well, the descriptions of colloidal silver that he didn't write would have to be docked alot of marks for technicalities, but the process is sound atleast, if not a tad overkill.. I don't think purity is that important here.. Honestly I'd probably use foodsafe solder as my silver source, if I had nothing handy (but I might be mistaken on the botany aspect of that).. Do make sure no wire contacts the electrolyte..
On a side note, I've seen various abstracts playing with ionic silver to disrupt ethylene activity in plants with concentrations ranging from 500-2000ppm, but those numbers would be based on molar equivalents, not EC based ppm, and its tough to say exactly what that would read on a meter..
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
sooo then no place sells this either premade for this usae or no one sells the correct solution that could then be mixed to the needed consintration?
 

bicycle racer

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my batch is done the 24v dc 400ma charger i ran for 24 hours i carefully poured off the liquid leaving behind any sediment. what i have now is a grey colored silver looking concoction it actually is a very nice color appealing to the eye. this batch was made with distilled water 30 ounces of distilled plus 2 ounces of tap to make sure there was enough conductivity this may or may not be a good idea but it seems to have worked another batch is in production now using less tap about 31oz distilled 0ppm with 1 ounce tap added at a ppm of 250. i have used only pure distilled with a tested ppm of 0 in the past but it takes forever to get a reasonably concentrated solution. anyways the silver solution produced looks identical to when i have made it with lower voltage lower ma rating chargers such as 8.4v dc300ma/8.4v dc250ma and10.5v dc 250ma but who knows as i cant see on a microscopic level. the 24v dc 400ma seems to work best the proof will be in how effective the solution will be. i dont want to use silver nitrate or sts as they are somewhat dangerous. i have educated myself on producing fem pollen with gibberellic acid which is pretty safe regardless to what people write on cannabis websites. if the silver fails i will use g.a. instead of photo shop chems for safety reasons if the ionized silver and ga fails which they should not i will use sts as a last resort. in the past i have made clone only fems using the rhodelization method of late stage pollen production which worked fime im growing the resulting fems now. another cool way to preserve important genetics is air layering which im testing now.
 

bicycle racer

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yeah fletch that silver you posted a link for will work fine. keep in mind you just want 2 separate amounts of silver that alligator clips can be used on so if you get a bunch of small amounts maybe melt them down into 2 chunks the more surface area the better. i used 2 quarter ounce silver .999 pure coins i have made quite a bit of ionized silver with these coins there slowly dissolving but they last quite a while.
 

born2killspam

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Would you rather do electrolysis or salt solution?? That wire would be fine for electrolysis, the shot would be tricky in that format though.. You could create your own silver nitrate solution I suppose if you can get nitric acid, but nitric acid is DECEPTIVELY dangerous, and silver nitrate is used for alot of purposes.. Its your best bet I think actually if you want to take the chemical route.. Highly soluble in water, and likely easily obtainable..
As for the patent, I'm not really sure about the solubility of their product.. If its anything like the halide salts themselves then it likely isn't very soluble.. It sounds much more complicated than we need too, organic chemistry is usually the most grueling..
 

born2killspam

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Oh, I also forgot to mention that silver should only be needed at the anode (positive side).. Stainless steel on the cathode will stay more than stable enough to supply the electrons, and metal ions come from the anode..
 

pinkus

New Member
sounds like you are REALLY making this more complex than it needs to be. It's not hard to follow the tek at the beginning and it works. nuff said :peace:
 

bicycle racer

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i assume you mean as your more of a chemist than me. that the the the coin which does not dissolve could be supplemented with stainless steel correct?anyways the quarter ounce coins are cheap so im using them on both clips. production is quite fast with the charger im using now. in a a few days i should have months worth of concentrated silver solution. in theory if not potent enough it could be evaporated down to increase ppm's or dilluted with more distilled water if too strong. anyways seems to be working well. i have heard for storage room temp is best out of bright light and heat and with no refrigeration im not clear on why as its a sterile metal solution but i dont want to inactivate it or cause some sort of corrosion or oxidization.
 

bicycle racer

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the tutorial on the first page is more or less correct but basic. one way or another the purpose with silver is to inhibit ethylene production which promotes fruits/flowers and ripening of them.
 
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