How to press your kief after liquid nitrogen extraction?

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Snoogens

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Hey fellas,
so I've got myself 12 grams of kief, that I extracted with liquid nitrogen, through the 3rd last filter of my bubblebags. (One of the most potent layer I've always been told. If anyone has a different opinion please do tell! :) )
So what can I do now to make these crystals form into insane hash? I've tried different methods over the years but none blew my mind like proper bubble isolator that I know can be made from these bags. Last night I wrapped like 5 grams in baking paper, and then newspaper, dipped the whole thing in water and then in the over for 10mins on 180 degrees celsius. Immediately after the oven I ran to the press in the garage and applied major pressure with a proper tool presser(I don't know the proper term for it hehe). So basically, according to the internet, that should give me grade A, Amsterdam knockout hashish right? I mean especially if I carefully filtered only the "high quality" crystals? But it really seems just mediocre I must say..

I'd be grateful for any info or advice you guys have!
 
Fadedawg

Fadedawg

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We use a die and hydraulic press to press kif buttons.

How are you extracting with liquid nitrogen?
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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I was wondering that as well

"Vessels containing liquid nitrogen condense oxygen from air. The liquid in such a vessel becomes increasingly enriched in oxygen (boiling point 90 K; −183 °C; −298 °F) as the nitrogen evaporates, and can cause violent oxidation of organic material."
"Because the liquid-to-gas expansion ratio of nitrogen is 1:694 at 20 °C (68 °F), a tremendous amount of force can be generated if liquid nitrogen is rapidly heated"

It also like -330 degrees or something.. so what exactly are you doing with it and why??

I definitely condone the use of flowing inert n gas through your vacuum to prevent degradation however
 
Shawns

Shawns

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Maybe the liquid nitrogen changed the structure of the trichomes thus not allowing you to press, you could try to press with a little bit of heat or a drop of water
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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that should give me grade A, Amsterdam knockout hashish right? I mean especially if I carefully filtered only the "high quality" crystals? But it really seems just mediocre I must say..

Wait you also baked your hash for 10 minutes...at much higher than thc's boiling point??

No according to the internet you no longer have flavorful hash lacking most of its lighter terpenes and I'm going to assume its black and opaque..probly fairly sedative as well
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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Uhhhh.. yea didn't you see the quality of his stuff on page 2? And the first pic looks like flower pollen....

What would make you want try this method and to invest in all the materials or whatever...
 
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VladFromOG

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I've never done the liquid nitrogen freeze thing, but I have done the dry ice freeze method which is very similar, and yields a similar looking fine powder (though mine is whiter than yours is usually) which is difficult to press together. I have a few cheats that might help, they work for my dry ice hash: You can dissolve the kief in a little bit of solvent, say ethanol or butane or whathave you, then purge it and let it cure, you will wind up with a thick waxy oil that is pretty stiff due to the amount of plant material, or you can add just a squidge of glycerine or limonene and work it all into the powder with a putty knife, until you get some gumby hash consistency stuff. Hope this helps, know its not quite the same as pressing it into a block of hash, but it does keep it from flying around at the lightest breeze.
 
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Snoogens

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Qwizoking: The material was no hustle, the liquid nitro is cheap and easily available. So I figured why not :)

VladFromOG: Thanks friend for the advice I will look into this and try the butane thingy.
 
SaybianTv

SaybianTv

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VladFromOG said:
r you can add just a squidge of glycerine or limonene and work it all into the powder with a putty knife, until you get some gumby hash consistency stuff..
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Vlad how do you find smoking the hash with the limonene edition? can you taste or smell anything other than limonene? Im wondering why it wouldn't come out like burnt lemon's due to limonene being flamable at such high consentrations as a dropper would dole out. I tried it on some flower's once but it taste horrible and blew my head off from chest expansion.....
 
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VladFromOG

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Limonene gets harsh real fast, that's for sure! Its a crazy solvent though, only tiny amounts are needed, just spend some time working it in. Extra limonene purges fast- if you've used too much or if you've used limone in a liquid solvent extraction you can quickly remove the limonene with a warm water bath and whipping, or just through time. Since its a solvent, if you are using it to solidify keif, it will melt the lipids together, keeping it a single mass even after the solvent is gone. I would rather use glycerin for sweetness and a touch of limonene for that citrus taste. But tbh when I make dry ice hash, I usually just use it to make high thc bho (keif has a higher delta 9 ratio than the whole herb)
 
SaybianTv

SaybianTv

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what does "tbh" mean? you mean you don't keep the kief as kief you run it as bho. Do you have a link on that keif having higher delta9 compared to the hole herb extracted, I would really like info like that. Limonene isn't easy to evap, do you get shatter after your adding limonene? limonene's mol weight is heavy, it's boiling point worse, it reduces nicely but getting from 80% to 100% is fudged off.I know it will make the pure gold style but can it compare to butane?
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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A lot of people used to say the leaves produced higher concentration of cbd.....I personally don't have any studies on hand to confirm or deny...I can find some later though.....I personally don't believe the ratios to differ...I think its just that, as most know the trichs on the leaves mature first
 
SaybianTv

SaybianTv

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I don't have any proof but observationally that might be true indeed. I noticed i can make sleepytime edibles if i decarb the left over plant material after dry sifting. I dunno where it's getting that goodnight medicine if its not from the plant material because there's no mental effects just bedtime music. 8
 
Frenchy Cannoli

Frenchy Cannoli

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Snoogens said:
Hey fellas,
so I've got myself 12 grams of kief, that I extracted with liquid nitrogen, through the 3rd last filter of my bubblebags. (One of the most potent layer I've always been told. If anyone has a different opinion please do tell! :) )
So what can I do now to make these crystals form into insane hash? I've tried different methods over the years but none blew my mind like proper bubble isolator that I know can be made from these bags. Last night I wrapped like 5 grams in baking paper, and then newspaper, dipped the whole thing in water and then in the over for 10mins on 180 degrees celsius. Immediately after the oven I ran to the press in the garage and applied major pressure with a proper tool presser(I don't know the proper term for it hehe). So basically, according to the internet, that should give me grade A, Amsterdam knockout hashish right? I mean especially if I carefully filtered only the "high quality" crystals? But it really seems just mediocre I must say..

I'd be grateful for any info or advice you guys have!
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You did not make kief using liquid nitrogen so you cannot press it into hash.
 
Frenchy Cannoli

Frenchy Cannoli

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VladFromOG said:
I've never done the liquid nitrogen freeze thing, but I have done the dry ice freeze method which is very similar, and yields a similar looking fine powder (though mine is whiter than yours is usually) which is difficult to press together. I have a few cheats that might help, they work for my dry ice hash: You can dissolve the kief in a little bit of solvent, say ethanol or butane or whathave you, then purge it and let it cure, you will wind up with a thick waxy oil that is pretty stiff due to the amount of plant material, or you can add just a squidge of glycerine or limonene and work it all into the powder with a putty knife, until you get some gumby hash consistency stuff. Hope this helps, know its not quite the same as pressing it into a block of hash, but it does keep it from flying around at the lightest breeze.
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If you have to cheats to press your resin, you may want to rethink your method or try something else. Dry sieve is as creamy as IWE when properly done.
You smoke glycerine???????
 
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