BUSINESSSSS *ok so first ignoring this mayhem, on topic, in short i will write my findings. the next paragraph will be explaining those finds..*
simply, the calyx's that swelled large and fast, are possibly the 'unpollinated' ovary. and the calyx's that do not swell AS fast, or slower than the others, this may be because energy is being focused on making seeds, and swelling comes later, and in larger measures. i do not know how to test this other than visually. and even this is just an idea...(hypothesus)
i actually clipped off a small bud from the bottom... and i opened up calyxes that looked 'unpollinated' but actually, i found TINY seeds growing, they were about the size of a pinhead. to be sure this wasnt the ovary, i opened up some buds from my other plants that were not pollinated. and found that there is no small pin size seed looking thing inside of it. so i guess i was pollinated. BUT the wierd part is that the calyx's that i pulled off the unpollinated plants were larger, meaning more swelled up, including the hairs orange/dark. so i figured that seed production slows down the calyx swelling until the seed is the thing that is actually pushing it open. but the differences between actually pollinated and not seems like a really shady line for me, like i still dont know what im looking for to determine 'pre-visual' seed growth identification.
DRAMA
and now onto this whole thing, i really didnt mean anything wrong by saying that, i just dont like being talked down too by peers.(meaning other people)... i certainly didnt mean to get everyone involved, just to kinda nip ignorance in the but.
its very simple to see that someone who is willing to post 'when you see seeds' in my forum is either joking around(my guess, since i didnt get mad, i just corrected the issue), or actually angry that a seemingly simple question exists here.
and to understand why he would get angry, think with me...
someone browsing on the plant problem forums sees 'how to tell if seed is being made' (or w/e) and jumps in there and says 'what a seemingly idiotic question, hes some degenerate n00b' but in all reality, that someone who is dismissing this topic as THAT EASY would be the idiot if they actually reply with a simple answer like that, to me that is... unless they were teasing me, which is fine, i dont mind that.
but for cowell to get involved and jump into something that has nothing to do with him, except his idealistic version of how forums should work, he comes and starts throwing accusations/words/ideas around, no i dont like that, but cant control it, i only ask dont do it in my forums please..
im just not that simple, i study biology in college, bioengineering actually. so to me, if noone knows the answer, i will bring some of this shit into the lab, and find the answer myself if it really bothers me(i just might this semester, but dont think the plant will be viable to test after 1 month of sitting since i am on summer break)