How to tighten up buds

medicineman

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sativas will be less dense then indicas.

if you have more of a sativa hybrid expect loose buds, this is not a bad thing...:blsmoke:
Seems to impede saleability. People want tight buds. I can't see as how if the smoke is kicking your ass it would make all that difference but it seems that it does. Must be a batch of posers my friend has been showing them to. they don't want to pay 175.00 an OZ for this widow and haze mix. Maybe there is a pot glut in Vegas, who knew. I think I'm gonna hang up my gardening shears, it's not worth growing for less. and the risk and MY wife not diggin it and feeling the paranoia when the doorbell rings is not worth it. I figured to make 200.00 an OZ when I started, but the price here in Vegas has dropped significantly, so I'm not going to compete for 125.00 OZs. I made back my initial investment + a couple a grand, so it was a good investment. I'll wholesale this batch out for 75.00 an OZ and call it quits. A couple of my buddies are willing to pay 175.00, but they aren't enough to keep me in business and you all know that pot takes on a different appearance if kept in a gun safe in Mason jars. I'm tired of this pot culture anyway, younguns that all they can think about is getting high, I outgrew this stuff 40 years ago. I might like a joint accasionaly to ease some arthritic pain, but I don't enjoy the high any longer. Thanks for all the help and peace to you all.
 

hybrid

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shit.............for 125 an O I wouldnt play either. I cant see how that is the going price for that when its 400 an O (street price) where I live. I think the going wholesale is 225-275 depending on who and how much..........

Me? Im terrified of turncoats as it is. I cant imagine what it would be like to have to deal with people buying from you and dropping the dime on you when they eventualy get popped.
 

medicineman

New Member
Heat ye but. Have you tried different strains?
I tried a nepalese strain that never got taller than 3 ft and had one large cola, But the guys that tried it said it wasn't potent enough. It whacked me good, so I guess I'm a lightweight, but they said it looks and tastes good but lacks potentcy. these are the same guys that said my widow has the potentcy, but doesn't have the looks, I'm beginning to believe they are just trying to get the price down, I say fuck em. Before I'll sell it to them, I'll give it, away. I'm too paranoid to ship through the mail, so my friends may have gotten lucky. I'll keep a couple a OZs for medicinal purposes, and sell the rest for 50-75 an OZ and if someone can't afford it, I'll give them an OZ. Too bad there isn't a place where I could give it to med users in Vegas, or I'd take the whole lot down there and hand it over, not to be sold but given to those that can't afford it. THe Thai is still growing buds and the trichs are still clear, I see another month at least. The PPM is at 700 and falling, the PH 5.8. hrs 12-12, I think I'll turn out the light for a couple a days and see what that does.
 

bigbudeddie

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I tried a nepalese strain that never got taller than 3 ft and had one large cola, But the guys that tried it said it wasn't potent enough. It whacked me good, so I guess I'm a lightweight, but they said it looks and tastes good but lacks potentcy. these are the same guys that said my widow has the potentcy, but doesn't have the looks, I'm beginning to believe they are just trying to get the price down, I say fuck em. Before I'll sell it to them, I'll give it, away. I'm too paranoid to ship through the mail, so my friends may have gotten lucky. I'll keep a couple a OZs for medicinal purposes, and sell the rest for 50-75 an OZ and if someone can't afford it, I'll give them an OZ. Too bad there isn't a place where I could give it to med users in Vegas, or I'd take the whole lot down there and hand it over, not to be sold but given to those that can't afford it. THe Thai is still growing buds and the trichs are still clear, I see another month at least. The PPM is at 700 and falling, the PH 5.8. hrs 12-12, I think I'll turn out the light for a couple a days and see what that does.
Your case in funny in that is it is like mine but the opposite. My friends tell me my weed is pro but i am disappointed. But my last stuff was like yours fluffy light bud. Im almost sure its strain but who knows. I wish we had a medi facillity in Australia. 50-75 an oz is cheap as, going rate for my weed is 300 an oz. The long wait for the thai will be worth it im sure.:blsmoke:
 

SmokerE

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sativas will be less dense then indicas.

if you have more of a sativa hybrid expect loose buds, this is not a bad thing...:blsmoke:

I dont' know...I have a jack herer straight sativa looking one...and it has the hardest buds I've ever grown.

I'm not disagreeing that it could be strain related though.
 

stonegrove

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I tried a nepalese strain that never got taller than 3 ft and had one large cola, But the guys that tried it said it wasn't potent enough. It whacked me good, so I guess I'm a lightweight, but they said it looks and tastes good but lacks potentcy. these are the same guys that said my widow has the potentcy, but doesn't have the looks, I'm beginning to believe they are just trying to get the price down, I say fuck em. Before I'll sell it to them, I'll give it, away. I'm too paranoid to ship through the mail, so my friends may have gotten lucky. I'll keep a couple a OZs for medicinal purposes, and sell the rest for 50-75 an OZ and if someone can't afford it, I'll give them an OZ. Too bad there isn't a place where I could give it to med users in Vegas, or I'd take the whole lot down there and hand it over, not to be sold but given to those that can't afford it. THe Thai is still growing buds and the trichs are still clear, I see another month at least. The PPM is at 700 and falling, the PH 5.8. hrs 12-12, I think I'll turn out the light for a couple a days and see what that does.
lol ill happily give u $210 for a OZ, lmao thats £105 over here shits averaging at £140 which is $280. petty bout the big old ocean between us aye.....
 

doggiepaddel11

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i'd say its the strain. my jack herer allways has fluffy buds, but it hits hard! i grew some blue cheese and it stretched like a mofo but the buds were tight! thats why i say its the strain. don't give up on it, just turn it all into hash!
 

Spittn4cash

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its the strain !!!
sativas will be less dense then indicas.

if you have more of a sativa hybrid expect loose buds, this is not a bad thing...:blsmoke:
Seems to impede saleability. People want tight buds.
I dont' know...I have a jack herer straight sativa looking one...and it has the hardest buds I've ever grown.

I'm not disagreeing that it could be strain related though.
i'd say its the strain. my jack herer allways has fluffy buds, but it hits hard! i grew some blue cheese and it stretched like a mofo but the buds were tight! thats why i say its the strain. don't give up on it, just turn it all into hash!
I cosign with the above posters. the strain helps a lot to produces tight buds and it takes the proper care!

most strains can tolerate temps in the 90's and some sativas in the hundreds! so i think ur ok there.

also keep in mind that the strain u choose has an extremely long flowering period in order to get those giant ripening buds!

U need to think outside of the box, if U need something for right now with dense buds and good potency then U should order something with a litle more indica influence, but with a sativa high. save the outdoor strains for outdoor.

PS Id take srawberry cough or Nebula over thai any day...
:peace:
 

Dela

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lol ill happily give u $210 for a OZ, lmao thats £105 over here shits averaging at £140 which is $280. petty bout the big old ocean between us aye.....

i second that! and £140 is for the shit bog weed. the decent smelly hydroponicaly grown weed goes for £160 an oz at the moment, thats $320!
 

Stoney McFried

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I thought you didnt grow,med!!!
I'm looking for an answer to the loose bud question. It seems my buds dont want to compress into tight buds. What am I doing wrong> I use a 400W HPS, a bubbler, only mature 2-3 plants, feed them Nutes from week 3 to a couple a weeks before harvest, starting at 250PPM and going to 1600PPM and backing down mid way to 0 again. I maintain a PH between 5.5-6.5 and have everything on a timer, with plenty of areation. The buds will just not tighten up. Am I harvesting too soon. I harvest when the trichs are half amber and half milky. The potentcy is excellent but the weight sucks. Should I leave them untill all the trichs are amber? Help!!
 

DR. VonDankenstine

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I heard vegas was kickin and kind bud was flowing at 400-to 450 a zip????----my info was way off-----sounds like your burned out---take a couple of years off but know that the stress and problems will still be there with or without the grow---sounds like you can buy the bud there cheaper than you can grow it--------good luck in your next adventure-----your probably picking a good time to get out---I heard there busting grow ops left and right out there and getting ready to crack a lot of heads at the grow-shops-I also heard they just finished a 1 year undercover information gathering from the grow-shops out there-I guess there getting ready to knock down some doors....best of luck
 

greenpriest024

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your probably picking a good time to get out---I heard there busting grow ops left and right out there and getting ready to crack a lot of heads at the grow-shops-I also heard they just finished a 1 year undercover information gathering from the grow-shops out there-I guess there getting ready to knock down some doors....best of luck
lol man harsh load of information, i'm just hoping for the guy not to be high when he reads that or it'll trigger a serious trip-out....
 

DR. VonDankenstine

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The wife and I were out there a couple of weeks ago---saw the local news while kicking-it at hotel---told the wife---"glad were not living here"---sounds like the local police are on a mission:?
 

dertmagert

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u know medicine man.. i had the same problem a couple grows back.. my big bang plants grew huge colas, but they werent VERY dense.. i mean they were dense, but when they were dried and cured, still a bit airy... and a couple guys who i was getting rid of it to mentioned how it looks like homegrown because of this airyness... so all i did was dry it a little less then before (so it is still a little gooey).. then i cured it for 30 days.. the bud still looked the same but then i compressed it... it turned into these beautiful doughy buds that peeled away and stuck to your fingers when breakin it up.. but it had no problems staying lit when smoked and tasted great...no more complaints
 

Mr. Bitti

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try growing in indicas next time like he said and get the lights closer to the top. the plants look stretched bigtime. also you might wanna try soil next time? i always get more dense, better looking nuggets in soil than hydro.
 
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