Huge 4000sq ft. Grow Room Ideas

hempknightt

Active Member
So many comments telling you why you cant do this?? haha wtf heres whats up. Plan. Plan. Plan. Then plan some more. Get an electrician to come before you set anything up and have him run a line to the spot thats big enough for everything you need. Ebb and Flow is the way to go since you dont want to be watering everyday on top of everything else youll have to do. Instead of using 4x8 trays think of ways you can circular light movers, maybe set up 4x4 trays with a little space to walk between, so maybe like 4 of them will take up a 9x9 area. With one of those you can have 2-3 lights lighting up to a 10x10 area rather than 4 lights for 2 4x8 lots, also this way you can use MH and HPS lights mixed spectrums will give you tastier buds. Power consumption is the easiest way to get caught and with 200 - 250 lights thats a lot of power with the light movers you can cut that amount in half.

Also SOG is great I grow SOG, but with that big of an area you should just grow normally get some big mamas up in thurrr. If its legal to grow in your state then your golden but its still a federal issue if you have over 100 plats or so it goes.
 

silverbub

Member
So many comments telling you why you cant do this?? haha wtf heres whats up. Plan. Plan. Plan. Then plan some more. Get an electrician to come before you set anything up and have him run a line to the spot thats big enough for everything you need. Ebb and Flow is the way to go since you dont want to be watering everyday on top of everything else youll have to do. Instead of using 4x8 trays think of ways you can circular light movers, maybe set up 4x4 trays with a little space to walk between, so maybe like 4 of them will take up a 9x9 area. With one of those you can have 2-3 lights lighting up to a 10x10 area rather than 4 lights for 2 4x8 lots, also this way you can use MH and HPS lights mixed spectrums will give you tastier buds. Power consumption is the easiest way to get caught and with 200 - 250 lights thats a lot of power with the light movers you can cut that amount in half.

Also SOG is great I grow SOG, but with that big of an area you should just grow normally get some big mamas up in thurrr. If its legal to grow in your state then your golden but its still a federal issue if you have over 100 plats or so it goes.
Thank you finally some one who belives. What do you think I should do about the power and also could you explain the light mover more in depth like how to maximize their potential. What mixture of MH and HPS do you think I should use I was just going to switch out the light in between veg and flowering. To grow "normally" what process should I follow.
 

silverbub

Member
He's also not gonna have any time to do any of the other necessary logistics cos even with a petrol-powered trimmer its still gonna take ALL your time just to trim.

It's nice to dream big,but it's still only a dream.
Those machines can trim up to 9 pounds an hours and it is possible to use more than one machine.

Any alternatives to the energy problem.
 

knourgro

Active Member
OK. It is pretty rural so I think that lowers the risk a little bit and how do you recommend I lower the heat signature.
you can buy thermal blankets that go ontop of your light reflectors, it hides all infared heat given off by the light that the police and wildlife helicopters pic up. they can get pricey sometimes though. but well worth it if your in an area where helicopters fly over somewhat often. if you rarely see a police choper ever than your gona be fine.....most likely lol


goodluck man, cant wait to see where this ends up
 

silverbub

Member
any chance of a partnership? i can bring lots of experience to the table!
This is still in the idea phase ,but hey that is just what I'm looking for a dedicated guy with lots of experience. If this ever get off the ground I'll be sure to contact you.
 

silverbub

Member
You're still talking over $17 an hour just for power.

I think you're living in a dream world to be honest,and that's not me being harsh,it's being realistic.

Even IF you manage to get it all going, there's no way without a bigtime dealer you'll be able to clear it all.

I don't think you understand quite the level and nature of work involved.

You have a stash house? How you gonna get it there? It's all those little questions you need to ask yourself.
Any ideas on the power? I could pay the ~12k a month for power but I would really like to take a different route. I know a lot of dealer ,but none that could clear that much that is why I need to find a broker or possibly sell under the table to dispensaries,
 

silverbub

Member
you can buy thermal blankets that go ontop of your light reflectors, it hides all infared heat given off by the light that the police and wildlife helicopters pic up. they can get pricey sometimes though. but well worth it if your in an area where helicopters fly over somewhat often. if you rarely see a police choper ever than your gona be fine.....most likely lol


goodluck man, cant wait to see where this ends up
Thanks I have actually never seen a chopper fly over ,but you can never be to careful.
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
To be honest,200 lights in a barn is gonna be visible from space, let alone from a helicopter dude. How are you possibly gonna control the temps? You're gonna need a shitload of fans/AC units.

You're talking over $100,000 just to buy the equipment...have you got that sorta scrilla?

Someone is probably gonna find you and shoot you for completely flooding the market in the area too.
Are you gonna have 24hr armed security? You'll than one guy with a rifle too...maybe a minigun would do it ;)

Are you in Cali? Are you aware the DEA are actively raiding dispensaries? What if it spreads from Cali and your selling to dispensary options disappear? How are you gonna transport that much weed without getting caught by smell alone? Have you somewhere to dry it all?

Just asking the necessary questions ;)
 

silverbub

Member
To be honest,200 lights in a barn is gonna be visible from space, let alone from a helicopter dude. How are you possibly gonna control the temps? You're gonna need a shitload of fans/AC units.

You're talking over $100,000 just to buy the equipment...have you got that sorta scrilla?

Someone is probably gonna find you and shoot you for completely flooding the market in the area too.
Are you gonna have 24hr armed security? You'll than one guy with a rifle too...maybe a minigun would do it ;)

Are you in Cali? Are you aware the DEA are actively raiding dispensaries? What if it spreads from Cali and your selling to dispensary options disappear? How are you gonna transport that much weed without getting caught by smell alone? Have you somewhere to dry it all?

Just asking the necessary questions ;)
Thanks I appreciate your criticism and I'll find a answer to all these problems.
 

hempknightt

Active Member
For power i would say get an electrician to come and set up a sub panel or something cause a generator would end up costing way more money. But you should still get a generator as a backup just in case. If the power goes out for any reason you dont want it to mean the death of your plants.

Depending on your situation that might not be the best solution either cause one look at your power bill and someone would know something was up. Usually its all automated and the only time they check is if you dont pay your bill or if something goes wrong but still... Another thing to think about if its possible maybe make part of the barn into a greenhouse type deal and have a "outdoor" type grow going on.

As for the circle light movers they hold 2-3 lights and 2 1000w lights can light up a whole 10x10 area so maybe 2 1000w HPS and a 600w MH. Its better to use just MH when in veg so you can use just the 2 1000s and when you switch to flower switch bulbs and turn on the 600 MH. The mover will also let you put the light closer to your plants and keep them cooler.

What I would do in your position would be for every 1 light mover have 4 4x4 or 2 4x8 Ebb and Flow tables under it, that way you can move them apart some and have some space to walk between so you can get to your plants.

Im not to familiar with growing bigger plants i grow SOG and put my clones straight into flower, but I assume all you would need is to add a month of veg time prior to that and youll be good. Then of course youd need to prune for yield so you dont get as many little buds underneath but theres probably more in depth forums somewhere on here.

I dont know how much experience you have yet growing so the only thing I can really say about that is start a test grow first. I know me personally I read a shit ton before my first grow and I thought it would be perfect but it was far from lol. If you do a test while your setting up your space youll get a better feel for the plant and that way if you mess up its not as big of a deal as messing up a huge 100 or more plant crop that youve been waiting 3 months for ya know?

Also some other things that might be helpful...

I read a comment about heat signature heres your solution cover the walls and ceiling of your grow room with this
http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-Block-IR-50-feet.asp

Look into making a completely sealed growroom. That would keep all the smell inside since you wouldnt be venting fresh air, this will reduce the chance of pests. Doing this youll need to get a C02 generator but you can have increased C02 in your space that will make your plants grow bigger faster.

Also weather you choose to have 1 huge crop a year or several youll def need some homies that will help you out. I mean its not hard to find someone to work with bud though you know haha? But seriously its gonna be a lot of work whenever you harvest just make sure you trust anyone you tell about or bring to help out.

Security cameras lots and lots on a different circut then whatever your running everything else on. As long as you have legal MJ in yer state otherwise theres not much point to it lol

And also get climate controllers. They have them for temps, humidity, CO2 everything, youll need them. Fact.

If i can think of anything else ill let you know, and good luck!
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
The infrared blocking stuff doesn't work, it heats up itself eventually ;)

A sealed room needs A/C too otherwise it gets hotter and hotter.

And 99 plants is the Federal limit, anymore than that you're fucked, so medical or not it's gonna be a problem.
 

silverbub

Member
For power i would say get an electrician to come and set up a sub panel or something cause a generator would end up costing way more money. But you should still get a generator as a backup just in case. If the power goes out for any reason you dont want it to mean the death of your plants.

Depending on your situation that might not be the best solution either cause one look at your power bill and someone would know something was up. Usually its all automated and the only time they check is if you dont pay your bill or if something goes wrong but still... Another thing to think about if its possible maybe make part of the barn into a greenhouse type deal and have a "outdoor" type grow going on.

As for the circle light movers they hold 2-3 lights and 2 1000w lights can light up a whole 10x10 area so maybe 2 1000w HPS and a 600w MH. Its better to use just MH when in veg so you can use just the 2 1000s and when you switch to flower switch bulbs and turn on the 600 MH. The mover will also let you put the light closer to your plants and keep them cooler.

What I would do in your position would be for every 1 light mover have 4 4x4 or 2 4x8 Ebb and Flow tables under it, that way you can move them apart some and have some space to walk between so you can get to your plants.

Im not to familiar with growing bigger plants i grow SOG and put my clones straight into flower, but I assume all you would need is to add a month of veg time prior to that and youll be good. Then of course youd need to prune for yield so you dont get as many little buds underneath but theres probably more in depth forums somewhere on here.

I dont know how much experience you have yet growing so the only thing I can really say about that is start a test grow first. I know me personally I read a shit ton before my first grow and I thought it would be perfect but it was far from lol. If you do a test while your setting up your space youll get a better feel for the plant and that way if you mess up its not as big of a deal as messing up a huge 100 or more plant crop that youve been waiting 3 months for ya know?

Also some other things that might be helpful...

I read a comment about heat signature heres your solution cover the walls and ceiling of your grow room with this
http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-Block-IR-50-feet.asp

Look into making a completely sealed growroom. That would keep all the smell inside since you wouldnt be venting fresh air, this will reduce the chance of pests. Doing this youll need to get a C02 generator but you can have increased C02 in your space that will make your plants grow bigger faster.

Also weather you choose to have 1 huge crop a year or several youll def need some homies that will help you out. I mean its not hard to find someone to work with bud though you know haha? But seriously its gonna be a lot of work whenever you harvest just make sure you trust anyone you tell about or bring to help out.

Security cameras lots and lots on a different circut then whatever your running everything else on. As long as you have legal MJ in yer state otherwise theres not much point to it lol

And also get climate controllers. They have them for temps, humidity, CO2 everything, youll need them. Fact.

If i can think of anything else ill let you know, and good luck!
Ya thank for the IR blocker it looks promising ,but I'm not going to use power from the ower company that would be so risky imagine all that power consumption it would set off so many red flags.
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
Ya thank for the IR blocker it looks promising ,but I'm not going to use power from the ower company that would be so risky imagine all that power consumption it would set off so many red flags.
How many people you gonna have involved in this outta interest?

Cos you realise all your crew will have to be squeaky clean, if they get arrested and threatened with time (for ANYTHING) they'll sing your name like a Canary. And with that sized grow you'll probably be enemy no.1 for the DEA in the whole US.

Again how you gonna afford over $200,000 worth of equipment btw?
 

hempknightt

Active Member
How many people you gonna have involved in this outta interest?

Cos you realise all your crew will have to be squeaky clean, if they get arrested and threatened with time (for ANYTHING) they'll sing your name like a Canary. And with that sized grow you'll probably be enemy no.1 for the DEA in the whole US.

Again how you gonna afford over $200,000 worth of equipment btw?
lol you know there are grows in the emerald triangle with thousands of plants or more right? Public enemy no.1 lmao maybe if hes killing babies on the side. Check this if your not using power for the electric company youll be fine, completely under the radar. I dont think theres too many ghetto birds with heat sensors flying over remote farms in CO...

This is a big grow maybe compared to yours or mine but its far from the biggest, and really its not your problem if he wants to do it hes gonna do it. Enough people have told him that already in this thread and I dont wanna keep checking here only to see more people bitching about it.

Less bitching, more helpful please, even constructive criticism works(key word=constructive) If not just stfu, whats next are the grammer nazis gonna show up?
 

Biological Graffity

Active Member
....I agree the thread was Very productive so far...the best way is to hide it under a dummy buisness first get comercial or industrial account with local power co and run all your equipment of 3 phase grid power with a big gene as a back up, (alot of guys like cummins....is that becouse you can run it on restaurant grease?) You can also get heat sheild blankets (they dont look like that HTG stuff )from a millitary supplier...all and all I can easily invest a 1/4 to 1/2 a million dollars in this op...How much are you trying to make, man?
 
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