Humanity CAN achieve enventual immortality

juststartin

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Aliens? Don't you mean god. After all Aliens are our gods. Well at least my wife thinks that anyway. We're some clever experiment Between Aliens and Primates.
Some of my friends bring this up (whilst baked). The best thing about it is NO BODY KNOWS! We could all be gone 2mrw afternoon :shock:
 

Biggravy22

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Some of my friends bring this up (whilst baked). The best thing about it is NO BODY KNOWS! We could all be gone 2mrw afternoon :shock:
That's the thing...Nobody really knows where we come from. Every one thinks they know...we don't know jack shit.We could die and be whisked away to some otherworldly dimension billions of light years away to be Welcomed home by this...

 

poplars

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You do know you'd have to choose between imortality and reproduction...
yep, that's the fundamental problem right here.. good luck stopping humans from reproducing . . . it's like the opiate of the masses.
 

darkdestruction420

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Exactly, and what about population? If we're all going to live forever at our desired age do we ban pregnancies & child birth?

What would we be living for?

I personally think immortality can not exist... We need certain things (water/food/oxygen) to survive, as long as u can still be starved of these three things you will always be able to die.
if a robot can be programed using your brain to think and be and act like u would you still be alive? or since your physical body is destroyed do you consider yourself dead?
 

RetiredToker76

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if a robot can be programed using your brain to think and be and act like u would you still be alive? or since your physical body is destroyed do you consider yourself dead?
I get stoned therefore I am. I have yet to see a robot stoned, so since a robot can't get stoned and I can, then I think that a robot just like me that can't be stoned most definitely isn't me.

-RT76
 

Boogaloo Bud

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No way they could programs a robot to do nearly as many things as a human can. The brain is more powerful then any computer man has made so far and not by a little.
 

Boogaloo Bud

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And how are aliens gods? They could be just like us but from another planet. If there is a another planet that has life on it as advanced as humans then I imagine they would be having the same problems we are.
 

Biggravy22

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And how are aliens gods? They could be just like us but from another planet. If there is a another planet that has life on it as advanced as humans then I imagine they would be having the same problems we are.
As advanced as humans? You act as if we're some Alpha lifeform. We're very primitive. VERY PRIMITIVE. I wouldn't be surprised to know that we were some of the most unintelligent, misinformed beings in the universe. Other beings can move at light speed...we just got I-phones. You do the math.
 

Boogaloo Bud

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As advanced as humans? You act as if we're some Alpha lifeform. We're very primitive. VERY PRIMITIVE. I wouldn't be surprised to know that we were some of the most unintelligent, misinformed beings in the universe. Other beings can move at light speed...we just got I-phones. You do the math.
I'm not acting anything, as primitive as we are no computer we have made can match what the human brain can do. Computers are designed for specific purposes where as the brain is designed to so everything. Look it up if you want. Our brain is a crazy amount more capable them computers and robots.

Another thing...what other being move at the speed of light? Nothing people can prove. Not saying there isn't life on other planets but they havn't exactly been showing themselves so to say other being can move lightspeed doesn't make sense.
 

Boogaloo Bud

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To say were primitive makes no sense. You say were primitive...compaired to what? Aliens that may or may not exist? Even if alien life forms exist, who's to say they would have more brain power then us? There could be planets full of animals but maybe none have the abilty to reason with things like humans do. (some humans reason with things better then others :P)
 

aba

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As advanced as humans? You act as if we're some Alpha lifeform. We're very primitive. VERY PRIMITIVE. I wouldn't be surprised to know that we were some of the most unintelligent, misinformed beings in the universe. Other beings can move at light speed...we just got I-phones. You do the math.
If they move at lightspeed how come they haven't found us yet?
 

SikSol

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it could exist or at least much longer lifespans and could happen very soon, we are starting to discover the chemical processes of aging in our cells, and have already began to fight this aging process of our cells not being able to dispose of damaged protein. In fact back in 2008, august I believe, for the first time ever scientists were able to stop the aging process all together in the livers of lab mice. As we further refine this and with human organs, we can eventually slow the aging process if not stopping it all together. So it very possible that in the near future the average human could live to be 200-300 years old instead of a max of about a little over 100 now.

This of course present problems as well as it presents promises. Population of course is one. About the only option would be very limited births, for example say one per parent and can only become pregnant at a very late age so that their child pretty much is there just to fill their spot when the die. As children for most of us is the only reason for living at this current day and age, in a time where you can choose to live much much longer and age much slower, sadly to say the majority of humans would choose that for themselves over having children.

So will immortality happen? maybe... will much longer lifespans happen? very probable. When it does the real question is though which will you choose, and be honest with yourself... if you had the chance to slow the aging process down alot and live to see things far beyond what you would be able to now, would you do it? I know I would for one.. I love my kids very much and I love my own life very much as well. No one really wants to die, especially if you dont know what if anything lies after life. I would choose to stay alive as long as possible, be with my kids as long as possible.
 

CrackerJax

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But what is "advanced"? Is advanced being able to manipulate your environment like man, or is it the turtle who is in perfect harmony with its environment? The most advanced isn't necessarily the species that will continue. Maybe our path is the wrong path. Maybe our path is a true dead end. maybe...but we can't know, that's the trick. We won't know until it is too late.

So are we "primitive"? Maybe, maybe not.....
 

jfgordon1

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Aliens? Don't you mean god. After all Aliens are our gods. Well at least my wife thinks that anyway. We're some clever experiment Between Aliens and Primates.
i think your wife is on the right track. the pyramids.. and ancient civilizations that had things we couldn't even do today. :shock:... crazy stuff
 

jfgordon1

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No, they had TIME and MANPOWER and a unified WILL.
i'm going to try to find a source, until then.. bare with me. lol. isn't there a picture of some sorts that is burnt into a wall of a pyramid. you can't even feel it with your hand.. it's burned on the inside of the wall. like they used a laser ... :confused:. can't explain that by TIME and MANPOWER

EDIT: saw it on the history channel
 

Chase the Bass

Active Member
it could exist or at least much longer lifespans and could happen very soon, we are starting to discover the chemical processes of aging in our cells, and have already began to fight this aging process of our cells not being able to dispose of damaged protein. In fact back in 2008, august I believe, for the first time ever scientists were able to stop the aging process all together in the livers of lab mice. As we further refine this and with human organs, we can eventually slow the aging process if not stopping it all together. So it very possible that in the near future the average human could live to be 200-300 years old instead of a max of about a little over 100 now.

This of course present problems as well as it presents promises. Population of course is one. About the only option would be very limited births, for example say one per parent and can only become pregnant at a very late age so that their child pretty much is there just to fill their spot when the die. As children for most of us is the only reason for living at this current day and age, in a time where you can choose to live much much longer and age much slower, sadly to say the majority of humans would choose that for themselves over having children.

So will immortality happen? maybe... will much longer lifespans happen? very probable. When it does the real question is though which will you choose, and be honest with yourself... if you had the chance to slow the aging process down alot and live to see things far beyond what you would be able to now, would you do it? I know I would for one.. I love my kids very much and I love my own life very much as well. No one really wants to die, especially if you dont know what if anything lies after life. I would choose to stay alive as long as possible, be with my kids as long as possible.
I've read that the human body has an optimum lifespan of 190 as is. We just do a lot of stuff wrong.
 

jrh72582

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On an extracted time-line, the survival rate of all species is 0.00%. Humans will roam the earth for some time to come, but eventually some phenomenon will occur and we'll ALL die. If/when that happens, who cares? Whatever your theological or secular position is, death is not something you want to conquer.
 
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