Humboldt Chemdawg harvest full of beans from feminized....?

Hi RIU -
Growers experienced with Humboldt's Chemdawg (feminized) please assist. Chopped 2 ladies at 73 days flower that are full of beans though never showed nanners or any signs of herming. Other strains in the garden are ok. These ladies ran in dwc, AN ph perfect nutes, PPM 700, ph 5.9 temps avg 75-82 degrees. Questions are:

I know fem beans can do strange things but Is this a trait of this strain?
Will presence of beans effect potency?
Are the new beans viable? If yes, can I expect more of the same problem or nah?
Any tips for getting a sensimillian run is greatly appreciated. One original bean left.

Thanks in advance of all constructive feedback. Chop is uber frosty just full of beans!!!

Wow, that is a lot of seeds I know its not what people want but still way cool I.M.O.... I Have had many, many of the same issues that you speak of with feminized seeds and from VERY well known genetics. No visible male flowers or any signs of hermaphroditism but full of seeds. Ive been growing long enough to know that on my end there is nothing that I am doing wrong so it must be the genetics. Its a good way to keep getting seeds though because all the seeded flowers that I have had produce plants that do the same thing over and over seeds and more seeds. Lots of people on here find it hard to believe that even well known breeders still struggle with "feminized" seeds that turn out to be hermaphrodites or just full blown males. They aren't god , they aren't perfect and they make mistakes just like all of us.If you like the bud that your plants put out , seeds or no seeds then continue to grow them. You will have lots of seeds to plant and re plant just be sure to grow only those and nothing else with them or everything will have seeds. AND, I don't know how its been for other people but Ive been growing plants from hermie seeds as an experiment for quite some time and I have found out that as you plant the next generations seeds the genetics drift so bad that after a while the seeds wont be worth keeping. These are my opinions and I shall not be held responsible for misguiding information lol. Worrying ruins bud faster then seeds.... Good luck .

"Genetic drift" - giggle....

You had nanners.....Who's seeds?

BTW,,those seeds will be predisposed to make nanners...NOT all of them will carry the trait.....

If chemdog is a must for your list (it is for me!)
www.drgreenthumb.com for solid #4 Chem S1's (I still run the orig cutting but Doc's are good and solid genetics).

Cali connections 91 chem is nice, if you can get a solid pheno from his beans (you have to look). His stuff is hit and miss.
Everything else is just a copy cross breed.

Doc

Thanks RIU - I promise you there were no nanners in the grow. I assumed the ladies were foxtailing. I only noticed in the chop that the pods where filled with beans. Strangest thing!!! I know the beans should be fem also but I don't want this problem over and over again. Humboldt is a trusted seed bank. This is just a fluke - must be! We'll see how she smokes soon. Very frosty indeed. Frostier than the white widow was.

immaculate conception....i think not....there was pollen coming from somewhere in your room, unless it came in through your intake.

We're those plants near the intake? Maybe it did just come through on the wind
Which would still be super unlikely unless you had males.growing somewhere else in the house

I have a friend who grew males in a separate tent from his females. Somehow all of his seeds were pollinated and he realised that his venting system must have been venting out pollen into the room and then being taken in by the female tent intake.
Very, very hard to do but he was a pretty unlucky guy

Dr. Who said:

"Genetic drift" - giggle....

You had nanners.....Who's seeds?

BTW,,those seeds will be predisposed to make nanners...NOT all of them will carry the trait.....

If chemdog is a must for your list (it is for me!)
www.drgreenthumb.com for solid #4 Chem S1's (I still run the orig cutting but Doc's are good and solid genetics).

Cali connections 91 chem is nice, if you can get a solid pheno from his beans (you have to look). His stuff is hit and miss.
Everything else is just a copy cross breed.

Doc

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Everything you post has a not so subtle aire of sarcasm. Why? You hide behind a big mouth and try to sound intelligent "snicker" and laughing a little. Cut the shit act human and pass on real knowledge or stfu. Any one can STFW for info.

LoIQ2 said:

Will presence of beans effect potency?

Are the new beans viable? If yes, can I expect more of the same problem or nah?

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First question yes they will effect the potency, depending on how many you had per bud ratio

second yes the seeds will be fine, however you may get some crazy pheno's.. I planted some feminized hermie seeds myself, none have turned hermie, yet, but they look nothing like the parents

the interesting part was I thought the seeds would be feminized/hermie seeds but instead they showed sexes like regular beans

Jimmy Sparkle said:

Everything you post has a not so subtle aire of sarcasm. Why? You hide behind a big mouth and try to sound intelligent "snicker" and laughing a little. Cut the shit act human and pass on real knowledge or stfu. Any one can STFW for info.

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Nice of you to point out your opinion.....and the old adage is right!

Yep , the guy that flaps his lips the most knows the least. Go woo some poor newbie somewhere bigmouth you aren't impressing me.

Also I'm not wasting any more time on mindless banter with you. You should probably be searching the web somewhere for something important to spout off LMFAO!!!!!

I've only every worked with feminized seeds. This is the 1st time this has happened. Keeping a close eye on the rest of the girls. I will wipe down the room in case she pollinated herself when I wasn't looking. No sacs found. Thanks for all the info. Interesting things to come as I toy with these seeds I guess. I should prolly keep them separate from my other strains or maybe yet create some new genetics like white widow blue dream chemdawg. But then what would I call her................? Stay tuned.

i personally would ditch the hermi strain...that shit is counterproductive...wen it pollinates neighboring plans the yield will b affected as once its pollinated..its starts putting all its energy into seed...not flower..i pollinate a tiny bud on plants to speed up the ripening but i control it..cant control a hermi.

Jimmy Sparkle said:

Everything you post has a not so subtle aire of sarcasm. Why? You hide behind a big mouth and try to sound intelligent "snicker" and laughing a little. Cut the shit act human and pass on real knowledge or stfu. Any one can STFW for info.

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Agreed, knowledge seems limited to a few on this site and when they quote genetics it just shows how out of their depths they are....

Cannabis is a triploid or above, most seeds are predispositioned to hermie.

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immaculate conception....i think not....there was pollen coming from somewhere in your room, unless it came in through your intake.

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Nope, I'm saying one of these 2 or both pollenated themselves w/o throwing any nanners. There was nothing to warn me! I swear it! I have 6 other ladies in the room that are fairing well. No pollen sacs, No nanners just pistol-ly buds. She's a sneaky broad is all I'm saying.

Look at the pattern of seeding within the group of plants, is it just a row of plants, plants in one particular area or one or two in particular etc etc. If you can see some kind of pattern you may be able to trace the source, be it an open window or sneaky hiding nanna. This has always been my approach.

More than often it was just a missed nanna, might not find it till your breaking the bud open to smoke.

Mystery solved! White widow has pollenated the Chemdawg and Bluedream. Time to name my brand new genetic!!!! I think I'll call her V.S.O.P!

Sometimes you can get pollen sacs deep inside the bud that you will not even see until you go to break some up.

LoIQ2 said:

Mystery solved! White widow has pollenated the Chemdawg and Bluedream. Time to name my brand new genetic!!!! I think I'll call her V.S.O.P!

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You first cross will be very unstable, consider you have a bag with ten blue marbles, ten red marbles, ten purple marbles, ten green marbles and ten black marbles. The bag has 50 marbles of five different colours. Now say we blindly take out 5 marbles and place them in a pot then pick out 5 more and place them in another seperate pot and so on till there are no marbles left in the bag and we have 10 pots all with 5 marbles in. Chances of any of those pots containing 5 of the same coloured marbles will be slim and each pot will hold different compinations and colours of marbles.

The 50 marbles in thr bag are your parent plants you crossed and all those mixed up marbles in the pots are your seeds.

At the moment all youve done is mix up a lot of genetics not make a new strain.

Breeders use techniques like backcrossing and selfing to futher work prefered phenotypes into stable strains.