So many people dissing the pheno hunts, growing clones is barely growing. And those saying they charge unfairly have obviously never tried any of the supposed elite seed makers, Mr nice and tga subcool are usually quoted as the best of the best, but even they think for every 10 seeds you buy youre most likely only getting one truly decent pheno. there is nothing wrong with this, you're growing YOUR OWN plant. If your technique is lacking then dont diss people like hso, there strains are mostly very stable and 9/10 they grow faithful to whatever description was given regardless of the strain name. When you grow a clone, someone has already done the selection for you. the seed that clone came from must have had sibling seedstock, all with more or less similar traits which certain people will like more or less and progressively select the traits as they learn to breed. breeding is about seeds, there will ALWAYS be variation in seeds so dont cry wolf every time there is.