humidity with passive intake

S13hitman

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Running a passive intake and I can't get my RH up because it's always sucking the damn air out. Anyone have a tip on combating this unless my only option is redoing my ventilation.

Need to keep costs down.
 

spek9

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Hang wet/damp towels in your grow area, and put large bowls of water on the floor. The water will evaporate into moisture.

Otherwise, get a cheap humidifier.

-spek
 

S13hitman

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I'm sorry for not pointing out that I'm running two humidifiers already. The towel trick is a 1% gain...
 

ttystikk

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I would slow down the ventilation and increase the circulation
THIS. You'll see the room heat up less than you think, because the plants will transpire a bunch of water. This soaks up a lot of additional heat. The bigger the plants and more efficient your setup the better this works. I'm constantly battling excessive RH, even while my temps are marginally too COOL- and I'm running high wattage HID lighting.
 

S13hitman

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Thanks you two. That does help me with a direction to take. My 6" inline fan is dialed down to medium and then whines since it's stressing the motor when turned any lower. I'll have to work around that but I totally understand that more vegetation will make the RH go right up.
So ill be adding more plants with a shorter veg time next run.
 

ttystikk

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Thanks you two. That does help me with a direction to take. My 6" inline fan is dialed down to medium and then whines since it's stressing the motor when turned any lower. I'll have to work around that but I totally understand that more vegetation will make the RH go right up.
So ill be adding more plants with a shorter veg time next run.
If it's a muffin fan it shouldn't be a problem but if it's brushless like Maxfans are, you need to take it off the speed controller or you'll burn it up.
 

Maat Aatack

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I have battled low RH and came up with a really good solution. It was cheaper and more effective than my humidifier. Check out my sig line... It's in that current grow early on.
Basically how I won the humidity battle is I built a frame out of 3/4 inch pic pipe, drilled holes in the top of the top cross pipe, installed a submersible pump onto one "leg" of it, draped a towel over it, filled the tote with water and turned it on. The water cascading down the towel gets blown by a fan. Turn your vent fan on idle at low temp or at lights out to build up humidity at that time. I went from 30% to 60-70 %. When the lights come on you hopefully have enough ambient humidity to carry you through the day.
 

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S13hitman

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If it's a muffin fan it shouldn't be a problem but if it's brushless like Maxfans are, you need to take it off the speed controller or you'll burn it up.
It stresses the motor and shortens the life span. However I can't run that damn thing at full power.
 

S13hitman

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I have battled low RH and came up with a really good solution. It was cheaper and more effective than my humidifier. Check out my sig line... It's in that current grow early on.
Basically how I won the humidity battle is I built a frame out of 3/4 inch pic pipe, drilled holes in the top of the top cross pipe, installed a submersible pump onto one "leg" of it, draped a towel over it, filled the tote with water and turned it on. The water cascading down the towel gets blown by a fan. Turn your vent fan on idle at low temp or at lights out to build up humidity at that time. I went from 30% to 60-70 %. When the lights come on you hopefully have enough ambient humidity to carry you through the day.
Outstanding! I just tried something similar and it raised it a descent amount just need a little more. I'm going for the VPD if anyone knows what I'm talking about. Forgot what it stands for but I have the chart if anyone wants it. It shows EXACTLY where your RH should be compared to your ambient temps. Most people recommend low humidity and that's normally not the case unless your literally approaching harvest time.

I just took a 5g bucket and drilled holes around the top. Draped a towel in the bucket to soak up water without a pump and then put a fan in the lid blowing into the bucket. Basic swap cooler without going to the store and getting a few other things to make it better. Just trying for the time being but it did work as you stated. Nice point on building it up for the day.
Thank you
 

vostok

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Some good advice above ..so here one more
rebuild you grow room it sounds way to small,
have the intake come form a cool source,
like a garage under the house even another room
 

ttystikk

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VPD = vapour pressure differential

This says your plants do best when RH is in the upper sixties or low seventies at eighty degrees f. I've been running my girls like this for awhile and it certainly helps.
 

S13hitman

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Your all great. Thanks. Thinking I should have went with a tent and not a closet. You were right it is a small space and that 6" is probably overkill. I'm about to move in 30 days so I'll be redoing things anyway but I'm at a critical point and need things to go well.

If I went with a tent and got another smaller inline fan I'd be able to run the light by itself just straight through a tent and then use the other fan when temps and RH is too high. Just don't want to step for a good controller yet. Any one recommend an inexpensive way to control the exhaust fan to turn on when it should? The other fan for the lights is obviously on 24/ 7 but probably don't need a controller for that since it could run at 100% power.
 

Carolina Dream'n

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VPD = vapour pressure differential

This says your plants do best when RH is in the upper sixties or low seventies at eighty degrees f. I've been running my girls like this for awhile and it certainly helps.
I follow vpd in veg and first 3 weeks of flower. It scares me after that point.
 

S13hitman

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If you look at some people's journals that follow VPD all the way through you'd probably be getting a better gpw ratio. That's a big deal for a small cab grower. Also, all you need is extremely good airflow through the plants and wind blowing crazy. Your plants will drink normally or better than they were. I'm watching mine change by following the chart as close as I can. I'm at 65% now and still want another 7% more for optimal growth.
Obviously a few above do follow that rule except when flushing and harvesting.
 
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