hybridization and cross breeding

penguinking

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Hey Folks!

So I was at a dispensary that I have a working relationship with earlier today. We got onto the topic of breeding and crossing of strains. Now I have always been lead to believe that the way to properly make crosses of ganja, is to find a strong male plant with desirable characteristics, and a female plant with desirable characteristics. From there either collect the male pollen, or to simply put a boy and a girl in a separate room, and let them breed via air circulation. from there collect the seeds, find the phenos, and then begin the back crossing process to start it all over again.

Now heres where the confusion begins. These people were talking about how there is a difference between a cross bred strain and a "hybridized" strain. Saying that the way they have always "hybridized" a strain is quite different. So they would take, for instance, a Big Bud plant that they wanted to hybrid with an afghani plant. They would take one of the two plants( Big Bud or Afghani) and surround them by the ones they wanted it to hybridize with. Thus creating a different strain?! huh?

Now I have personally seen my plants take on characteristics of other strains simply because they were grown right next to each other. Which is kinda weird, but it never changed the smoke or made the weed any different, I would just see similar growth patterns and leaf patterns. I never thought that, that particular plant was now "hybridized".

I have personally never cross bred anything. I aways grow from clone or seed, but never purposely do any breeding (hermies do it sometimes on their own :) )

I don't think these folks knew what they were talking about but I could be wrong. Any of you breeders out there have any input? Thanks

--PK--

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penguinking

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The shop owners swore up and down that then way they have always crossed strains is by just putting them next to each other. they're fucking stupid. I knew I was right but thanks for clarifying.
 

bf80255

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That sounds pretty retarded...
A cross is made by taking pollen from 1 plant and pollinating a female
Of another strain and the f1 seeds produced will be a cross, work these a
Few generations and youll have a strain
They wanted tou to beleive plants fused?
 

JointOperation

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Hey Folks!

So I was at a dispensary that I have a working relationship with earlier today. We got onto the topic of breeding and crossing of strains. Now I have always been lead to believe that the way to properly make crosses of ganja, is to find a strong male plant with desirable characteristics, and a female plant with desirable characteristics. From there either collect the male pollen, or to simply put a boy and a girl in a separate room, and let them breed via air circulation. from there collect the seeds, find the phenos, and then begin the back crossing process to start it all over again.

Now heres where the confusion begins. These people were talking about how there is a difference between a cross bred strain and a "hybridized" strain. Saying that the way they have always "hybridized" a strain is quite different. So they would take, for instance, a Big Bud plant that they wanted to hybrid with an afghani plant. They would take one of the two plants( Big Bud or Afghani) and surround them by the ones they wanted it to hybridize with. Thus creating a different strain?! huh?

Now I have personally seen my plants take on characteristics of other strains simply because they were grown right next to each other. Which is kinda weird, but it never changed the smoke or made the weed any different, I would just see similar growth patterns and leaf patterns. I never thought that, that particular plant was now "hybridized".

I have personally never cross bred anything. I aways grow from clone or seed, but never purposely do any breeding (hermies do it sometimes on their own :) )

I don't think these folks knew what they were talking about but I could be wrong. Any of you breeders out there have any input? Thanks

--PK--

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seeing the same characteristics in different strains that are not related.. means that one or a few things.. either.. 1 the nutes your using. some nutes can cause buds of different lineage to take on the same smell and taste.... or.. environmental conditions.. its wierd.. but.. if your completely dialed in.. 2 different strains.. that have different genetic makeup.. should in no way shape or form.. take on characteristics of another plant in the room..
 

JointOperation

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crossing and hybrid is different .. because crossing is just taking 1 male and a female. or 2 females. using 1 as the pollen donor.. and making seeds.. hybrids are usually unrelated genetics that are worked.. before being crossed.. atleast this is what i was told.. and have read..
 

bertaluchi

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Lots of confusion in this thread. Simply put, this guy you talked to doesn't know his asshole from his elbow. If you put a bunch of female plants around a male you will get seeds but that is not breeding or crossing, its pollen chucking and nothing more. Breeding plats is a long process of finding desirable traits and crossing those plants with others that have desirable traits. This is done over many generations with lots of plants turning out to be something other than what you were looking for. Some breeders work a strain for 10 or more generations before they will release a new strain. Those are the good ones. There are a lot of breeders that just put out F1's and let the growers weed out the shitty ones. When I am spending my hard earned money on seeds I like to know that I am going to get something good in my garden. I'm not saying that F1's are bad, just more of a pool to choose from.
 
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