Hydroponic Gorilla Glue #4 Grow With The Flow (ebb)

InsaneMJ said:
Looks like it might od had too much nitrogen threw out flower period. I'm assuming that's why it looks like a whole lot of foxtailing. I've noticed that with more nitro in the last 3 4 weeks is what tends to cause more foxtail an looses density. But to be honest I think if it's done right it can be your friend an benefit you more. I love it when my blue dream does that, cause I can expect an extra 1/4 p per light cause it'll explode an give me extra weight. An stack on.
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I wish I could say it was nitrogen, but this lady is just foxy by herself lol. I cut out most N after day 14 and all the plants were yellow by week 7, I actually wish I run a bit more N in flower but usually the OG strains are sensitive to it so I cut it out early just in case. It's so hard to trim foxy buds but it's definitely worth it in the end yield
 
Hmm I wonder what actually causes it then. Cause I know if I don't run a lot of nitrogen during flower especially on my blue dream by week 3 I'm seeing hard deficiencies.
 
InsaneMJ said:
Hmm I wonder what actually causes it then. Cause I know if I don't run a lot of nitrogen during flower especially on my blue dream by week 3 I'm seeing hard deficiencies.
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Sativa genetics, hot weather, nutrient boosters, they can all play a role. If not using any boosters, I'd say just genetics and sometimes when the foxtailzs start forming, some people start harvesting. Some let them go longer. I'd say if all environment is OK and no pk boosts being used, it's in the genetics to Fox tail
 
Day 21 Sog

Flooding 3x per day (every 6 hrs)

Ppm is at 950 and pH 5.3-6.0

Feeding 50/50 maxigro and maxibloom and nothing else except 29% h2o2 at 2ml per gallon.

They filled out a lot better than I expected. I did some extreme super cropping a week or so ago and they responded nicely. Some of the colas are stacking much better than usual for me. Not much else to show, but next week I'll get some close ups as the colas should be forming much more. I didn't think glue would be a good sog candidate, but I think 25-32 plants in a 4x4 tray vegged to 12" and left untopped would be killer. I only have 22 in there and wish I had a few more, but you gotta work with what ya have.

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The harvest is still going on but it is looking to be good. I had a very very bad bulb in one of the hoods so the plants under the bad bulb had much less yield than the other side, which sucks because that meant that most of the glue were between the two hoods or under the bad bulb. Anyway, I am at over a pound from 4/8 plants. They're all about 4 Oz each. The soil glue only got 2 zips due to being the furthest from the shitty bulb. The other 3 plants were other strains. It's super dank none the less. I'm guessing 2 pounds from 8 plants vegged for 30 days. If I had all glue and 16 plants which would fill the canopy much better, that would be pretty good in the yield dept 8-)

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These glue are about a week from being flowered and I've changed the bulbs in the hoods.
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Oh, new veg plan.

I'm using a beneficial res. Hydroguard. Algaefix. Pond zyme.

Also, I'm using WAYYYYYY more nutes. I've been under feeding the whole time with maxi series.

I am currently at 1100ppm and will be going to 1200ppm in a day or two. These plants need to be started with 800ppm from clone if using hydroton and flood and drain. Was thinking I was over feeding them for the past 6 months, but it was severely under feeding. As soon as I upped the ppm from 600 or so in veg to 1000, they took right off and greened up and deficiencies went away.
 
Man. These girls are looking freaking fantastic! I haven't had them looking this good since I was using suspended net pots and veg+bloom nutrients :)
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The plants under the good bulb got 5 zips each. Note to self: just buy new bulbs each grow haha.

Still one plant to go but it's definitely going to be 2 lbs which makes me happy. Basically 1000w used to grow 8 plants and 2 pounds, I can't complain and this next batch will be even better :) it's so stupid frosty this run, it's almost impossible to trim leaves off because if I do it just messes the buds up and you end up with less resin that just leaving it alone lol. I'm sure no one will complain.
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Anyways, It's beer 30. Have a good weekend folks.
 
I'm finally done trimming, the final yield is 1.75lb And 6oz of smaller stuff. No dud branches!! Woo-hoo!!!

The glue sog is moving along at day 28, they are getting frosty and stack a lot more since most weren't topped. The roots look great now with the covered tray, they made a nice little root mat during flower :) feeding 1200ppm
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5 full weeks, 28 days to go.

These are actually getting fat now for 5 weeks, they are bigger than the glue buds I've seen under DE 1150w! I'm pretty damn impressed with how these pulled through :)

Running 1250ppm, 50/50 maxigrow and maxibloom, calmag sometimes (no rhyme or reason).

The can I'm holding next to the bud is the size of a canned vegetables. The bud is the size of a beer can and about as long as my forearm :D

Can not wait to see what they look like in a month because they are only half done 8-)

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@Aeroknow check out them honkers ;) under the good hood no glass really changes the game, can't wait to get a DE sometime, might have some buds the size of my leg lol
 
Sog is the best gram per watt grow in my personal opinion.....looking good my man....I love sog because I hate vegging....you got me thinking of running 120 sog plants under 2x600's again...
 
sky rocket said:
Sog is the best gram per watt grow in my personal opinion.....looking good my man....I love sog because I hate vegging....you got me thinking of running 120 sog plants under 2x600's again...
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Thanks bro! I love sogs too, I used to run all sogs, 36 plants per 3.5x3.5 trays. Used to kill it! If I had the access to the amount of clones I'd need, I'd still be doing it, but I just don't think I can keep up with it anymore :( then again, if I had a few solid mama plants, it would actually probably cost the same in electric since I wouldn't veg for 5 weeks using lights

120 under 2 6s would kick ass! If you end up doing it let me know, I'd love to follow along 8-)
 
Oh, duh. I don't know how I forgot about these. I just put a batch of glue into flower Sunday. This batch should perform alot better in the ebb buckets than the last batch, but we'll see. I'm not sure how transplanting a 1 gallon pot into the ebb buckets will go.. The last round I used fabric pots and roots could grow through the whole pot, these pots are plastic and only have holes in the bottom. I did put some hydroton down at the bottom of the ebb buckets to make the 1 pot rim level, maybe 3" the roots can grow into, and I then filled hydroton in around the pots. The plants are freaking huge, so let's pray the plants don't need anymore root space, I mean people grow 4' plants in a rw block, so I don't see any difference here, this is like a 7x9 rw block of root space.

Last day of veg
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Day 1 flower
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There are 11 big glue this time, 2 sour power OG x Chem and 2 kushberry. The kushberry are the 2 in soil all the way at the end right. The sour power are all the way to the left front under the light.
 
Annnnndddd. Shit. After getting a good look at the sog when the lights turned on. My light was too close (no glass in hood not air-cooled). The buds in the center are not filled out nearly as much. Classic heat stress. My thermometer wasn't in the right place and when I moved it to the proper place, it was fuckin 89 degrees lol. Oh well, live and learn. Moved the light up a little. The perimeter buds will make up for it :)

Here's another pic of the ebb bucket glues.

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Is is possible to do a mini sog with ebb and flow buckets and be viable? For example using two rockwool cubes per bucket with a shorter veg (2 weeks max)? Instead of 30 plants you would have 60.
 
adower said:
Is is possible to do a mini sog with ebb and flow buckets and be viable? For example using two rockwool cubes per bucket with a shorter veg (2 weeks max)? Instead of 30 plants you would have 60.
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Totally! I'm not sure if it'd be any more beneficial than a flood tray, but you would definitely gain alot of height they could grow. I'm not very well versed using rw, but I have been wanting to try a sog in the buckets. The most plants I've grown in my ebb buckets under one light is 14, but it was individual buckets, the grow is actually still going about 6 weeks into flower, but it's not going well, the kens gdp strain is good bud but it is one of the shittiest growing plants I've grown. It looks great but such a low yielder, slow growing, slow flowering etc. I'd like to try something else and do 16 or even 32 (like you mention 2 per bucket, that would work great)
 
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