Hydroponic grow setup (help needed)

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pwnermies

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So I'm going to start my first grow and I need a bit of help. My space is pretty small so I'm only going to be growing 2 plants. I have a 150w hps with digital ballast and the space is 58cm*45*210

First of all, how long vegging would you recommend in this space with hydroponics? Also should I do some kind of training for the plants or leave that for future grows?
The closet has slide doors, so I would like to have something keeping the closet airtight and odorless. I was thinking of using tarp with a zipper going down the middle but if you have any better suggestions throw them at me. I obviously have to make 2 holes for the intake and exhaust, but I don't have a saw for it and it feels stupid paying like 50€ when I only need it for these 2 holes. If you have any suggestions how I could get 2 precise holes without expensive equipment that would be great. If you have any additional tips and tricks I'm happy to hear them too :)



 
powerslide

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Odor is going to be a problem. You will need a carbon scrubber. I would only run one plant in that space. Grow it about a foot tall and then switch it to bloom.

What kind of hydro are you going to run?

You aren't going to get much out of it but you will gain experience.
 
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pwnermies

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I forgot to mention that I got a carbon filter and a low odor strain so as long as I get something to cover the gap I should be alright. It's the drip hydroponic system, but you really think I can't fit 2 in there?
 
BreenGuds

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My first grow box was 24" x 24" x 48", and it could barely fit two plants, and the two plants didn't grow as well as just one did the previous grows. If you have never grown plants get bigger than you think. You have ok height just not depth and width for more than one at a time. Also with a space that narrow you won't get very much light penetration below the top. So start training from the beginning and try to make an even canopy. I don't have much experience with moms and clones, but dividing that space for a mom plant and a flower chamber might work better. Just a thought.
 
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pwnermies

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BreenGuds said:
My first grow box was 24" x 24" x 48", and it could barely fit two plants, and the two plants didn't grow as well as just one did the previous grows. If you have never grown plants get bigger than you think. You have ok height just not depth and width for more than one at a time. Also with a space that narrow you won't get very much light penetration below the top. So start training from the beginning and try to make an even canopy. I don't have much experience with moms and clones, but dividing that space for a mom plant and a flower chamber might work better. Just a thought.
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My hydro setup is for 2 plants so it wouldn't really make sense only growing 1 :S What kind of training would you recommend for a beginner, I was thinking of sog. For this space, how long vegging would be reasonable?
 
fabizpwn

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If you absolutely have to run 2 plants in that space, i suggest using only clones and only vegging for a week at the most Just to get some root drop. You will probably get a couple ounces every harvest.
 
fabizpwn

fabizpwn

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pwnermies said:
My hydro setup is for 2 plants so it wouldn't really make sense only growing 1 :S What kind of training would you recommend for a beginner, I was thinking of sog. For this space, how long vegging would be reasonable?
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Lol, you have no choice in that little area then to do a SOG. You can SOG, if that's what you wanna call it, in that area fine with 1 plant.
 
fabizpwn

fabizpwn

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pwnermies said:
I meant SCROG, my bad. I'm going to be growing them vertically so the space shouldn't be such an issue.
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Typical scrog is horizontal growing. You would have a better yield with 1 plant in a Scrog for your area then 2. Take advantage of the extra pot you would have used for the second plant for water volume for the 1 plant. Still veg for to about 12", LST it and keep the scrog 5" or so above the pot. It'll fill the space to where there is no available footprint to be used for anything else. It it were me i would paint the inside white or line with Mylar and not use a scrog. You definetly have more vertical space then horizontal.
 
fabizpwn

fabizpwn

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It would be kinda cool to offset the light to one side and then run a scrog from bottom right corner to upper left corner or vise versa. Run the scrog on an angle. No need for LST then just let it grow straight up and chop the side not being used off the plant kinda like lollipopping one side instead of the lower 3rd. Try it out. Kinda curious how it would work. Might try one out myself now lol. Anywho i would still only
Run 1 plant.
 
fabizpwn

fabizpwn

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It you try to grow 2 plants in there you're most likely going to end up with 1 dead plant and a dominant plant or end up with 2 mediocre plants that compete with each other for space. lll attach a photo of 2 week old plants and a picture of plants in flower that were vegged for 5 weeks in hydro
 

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pwnermies said:
I have mylar for the inner walls. With this hydro setup I have, it just doesn't make sense to only grow 1 in it. You think I would get a better yield from 1 plant then 2?
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I do see failure before launch though on it if you do a scrog. You need a way to drain your res, without moving the res. You won't be able to move it to complete water changes once they grow into the screen. Im assuming you're barebonesing it so no chiller or anything like that. You're gonna have to be on top of your water changes to avoid the plague.
 
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fabizpwn said:
I do see failure before launch though on it if you do a scrog. You need a way to drain your res, without moving the res. You won't be able to move it to complete water changes once they grow into the screen. Im assuming you're barebonesing it so no chiller or anything like that. You're gonna have to be on top of your water changes to avoid the plague.
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Oh yeah that would definitely make changing the res a pain. I could siphon it and fill it up with a bucket but it seems like a hassle though. My local grow shop guys said changing the res twice throughout the grow should be sufficient, but do you think I should do it more frequently? Your plants are huge lol but I was only planning on vegging mine for around 2 weeks.
 
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fabizpwn

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pwnermies said:
Oh yeah that would definitely make changing the res a pain. I could siphon it and fill it up with a bucket but it seems like a hassle though. My local grow shop guys said changing the res twice throughout the grow should be sufficient, but do you think I should do it more frequently? Your plants are huge lol but I was only planning on vegging mine for around 2 weeks.
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That's asking for disaster, you will 100% get root rot. I change my res every 7-10 days. I run chillers as well so i could go longer. honestly basing everything on time is a hard
Thing to do as far as how long to veg. I go by size, some take longer then others. If you try to run 2 and they start touching each other in veg they have went to long in veg. The plants are gonna double in size. Size isn't only height but circumference as well. I think you will be really suprised if you start one plant how big it gets by time it's harvested. I gonna attach a picture,
This plant started flowering at about 12" tall and this is where it at about 5 days ago, there was no care given to this plant to promote growth, no nutrients, it just grew wild as nature intended. It's an unknown strain and started from a seed that someone dropped while rolling. This plant vegged for 2.5 weeks before it started flowering in mid August.
 
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fabizpwn

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It won't let me attach them right now but as soon as I get a chance i will just so you have some mind of perspective
 
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