I always heard drugs are bad? Help me clearify plzz

i'm sure i said that i wana to "broaden spiritually"...
wud u recommend it doing with other friends. like get together once a week and chillax??

yea it dosent really matter you can..

I didn't really feel compelled to smoke opium when I did it(I didn't do much of it at a time). I smoked straight resin from scoring the poppy with a knife, it comes out white... you leave it oozing out of the plant until it turns black. I grew my own years ago. It's really relaxing, makes ya feel good. Easy to get addicted to that feeling, I suppose that's when you start becoming physically addicted as you try to achieve it more and more.

I've also tried LSD, amphetamine(crystal meth), mushrooms(psyocibin), Datura(once), salvia divinorum(interesting... but short), coke....

If I were to order them in 'preference' it'd be: Mary, opium, Cid, salvia, coke, shrooms, meth, and lastly Datura. The last 3 make me feel like shit either during or especially after. Try to stay away from meth heads, the people that associate with it are usually absent-minded or getting there... I've lost friends to it.... That shit fries your brain, and can be cut with who knows what.

Enjoy everything in moderation. Be not full, be simply satisfied.

yes, everyone seems to be telling me about moderation which i would agree to. It's just that i dont understand how as you said (TeaTreeOil) that you grew it. How does one grow something and still is able to control himself/herself. Is is just raw will power that's needed. Any ways to improve your ability to resist?

kash959 said:

yes, everyone seems to be telling me about moderation which i would agree to. It's just that i dont understand how as you said (TeaTreeOil) that you grew it. How does one grow something and still is able to control himself/herself. Is is just raw will power that's needed. Any ways to improve your ability to resist?

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You just tell yourself not to do it, If I say I won't do something then im gonna stick to it and not do it.

It takes a lot of poppies to produce sizable amounts.... LOL. I'd need a field of that shit to 'maintain' anything. I just planted a few under a tree(they like partial shade).

I was only doing it to experiment.

kash959 said:

yes, everyone seems to be telling me about moderation which i would agree to. It's just that i dont understand how as you said (TeaTreeOil) that you grew it. How does one grow something and still is able to control himself/herself. Is is just raw will power that's needed. Any ways to improve your ability to resist?

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It's called self control...

Mr.KushMan said:

When you stop looking at your substance of choice as a commodity, something you have on the regular like food, it is all just about neurological pathways, making connections and distinctions about thing based on others

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excellent reply. can u explain what u mean by this line a bit more. I don't understand. are u saying that if you look at it as food (which too much of it can be harmful), it's ok?? i don't get it.

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If you can understand that 'drug' is merely a compound and that the spending money(happiness) is the reason that you are being drawn to it. So when that happens enough your neoulogical pathways start to connect money,'drug',happiness and it becomes a habit. And it gets much more severe when a highly additive drug is used.

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Ahh, i think i know what ur sayin. Ur sayin that becoz spending money is the happiness & with that comes the drug, you end up doing the drug all the time becoz what ur really trying to do is spend money to gain hapiness...This actually does xplain why people keep buyin new things e.g. Once you've bought a HDTV, you stop watching TV & instead want something else to spend ur money on..
Xcellent point.
But, what about people who grow it n have stopped spending substantial amounts of money. IDK how much shrooms or opium cost on the street but u can grow it indoors right? Although u still do have to spend money to get the equipment...hmmm...

the cost of growing your own pales in comparison to street prices. my herb costs between $1.25 - 2.00 a gram to grow and could easily sell for $20 a gram if sold. my homie grows shrooms and his per gram cost is a fraction of what mine is when street value is about $10 a gram.

Its all about moderation. I do E, k, and shrooms a few times a year each. Mostly E, I did it like 7 times last year I think...but I smoke weed everyday.

yea, i think having a good supply of weed will help me not get dependant on it becoz i'll be wanting to stay high all the time and also, i've read tht u need quite a bit of opium to get a good hit?!?! I was thinking of having 1 or 2 popies but that seems to be pointless lol Shrooms mayb

It's just being able to tell yourself no man. If you find something addictive, chances are you need to increase the time off between your next dose.

Opium isn't really hard at all.. besides it being addictive, there really aren't too many side effects to it. And same goes for shrooms, shit they even have some medicinal value for Cluster Headaches and Migraines, but you won't die from them and the worst thing you'll have happen is a bad trip.

bro stop stressin. drugs harder than trees arent somethin you can get straight facts on it. most addiction all depends on the type of person you are. try the shit and if you like it do it every now and again. if you dont like it dont do it.

Very well said. You can certainly please or destroy yourself with drugs. Opiates are a pain in the ass to kick, but so relaxing. Also very unhealthy in the long term. Pot is pretty much win-win. LSD isn't as bad as people make it seem, but not something I'd want to do 24/7. Datura is stupid. stupid, stupid, stupid. I did it once and I was sick for a week. I kept hearing my phone ringing and couldn't find it, I thought my dog was dead and I started digging a grave in my back yard and passed out for 7 hours in my back yard. It was a mistake of youth. Very poisonous and easy to OD on as well. Shrooms arekinda fun but disorienting and DMT makes you dream.. but you are awake. Nothing really makes sense, but it all does in a way. You just go with the flow on DMT. Like: "Oh, my brain is escaping... shit... oh well."

drugs != people

drugs can not do bad alone, they require people

QED ... no drugs are bad

I like to take the Timothy Leary standpoint. It's your own body and no one can force you to do anything with it, just know the consequences of what you do may not be that great. And DMT sprinkled in a joint makes for an amazing experience.

No but people can pressure you to take drugs you wouldn't of normally do.

I have taken datura three times and that isn't a feel good drug and surely the strangest and a lot of people overdose due to be just dumb. A small amount goes a long way and thinking it has no affect is very dangerous, knew a guy who really thought that but he was doing strange shit and I was sober......soooo.


Mostly saying what is a hard drug and what isn't is total and utter social bullshit. All drugs are chemicals and they all have risks, the social risks and understandings really devalue or add value that isn't inherently there with the drugs themselves.

Opium really isn't that addictive, you can smoke a phat chunk and not be an addict; although you may crave some more if you really found some bliss but that never happened for me. Opium was a bit of a trip but not really euphoric, but it was a one time deal for the real stuff and not something fake........well, other than my own poppies but those seemed to stimulate me and I didn't like that.....other than tea and that made me dream wicked things.

Crack, that is an addictive drug but the next day I had no problems walking away from it although I might of hit it again if it was there. I smoked it one night and at first it felt a lot like an opiate, it totally made me puke and looking back it just became something to do the rest of the night and nothing I'd want to spend my life playing around with. But crack is not the stories and images that the social views would make you think it is, but ya people look like shit smoking crack and doing drugs so that makes things something else.

I'm sure we look stupid smoking weed but it sure can feel cool, it can be very interesting same as any other drug. We live in a time that is as much concerned about image as any other time and maybe even more. People can look like all sorts of nasty things when using drugs but same being sober.

As always read about a substance before using it and still leave room for reactions that are not reported and read as many sources as possible. I chose to divide drugs into groups, all experiences are spiritual but some are more or less.......it isn't normal to have a vision on crack or become addicted to DMT but they are capable of doing just that.

Lastly, people blame drugs to much and that is a waste; they are like guns, it is the persons fault or the lack of knowledge about what you were playing around with.

kash959 said:

but dya think u can smoke opium everyday n live a normal life? or shrooms every night?

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Well only if you have the money pay for it. Opiates in quantity are never a good idea as they ae OD-able and as such you may get a tolerance too high.

Ganjatopolis said:

I like to take the Timothy Leary standpoint. It's your own body and no one can force you to do anything with it, just know the consequences of what you do may not be that great. And DMT sprinkled in a joint makes for an amazing experience.

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couldn't have said it any better. personally i love opiates. the more natural the cleaner it feels. But i only do it roughly every 4 to 6 months not something that would form to much day to day destructive habit.

"know thyself"