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I can't get high, is this why?

ganja man23

ganja man23

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I saw a David Suzuki documentary and I think the conclusion was that THC dramatically increases the frequency of developing psychosis for those who are genetically prone to it. If you're not than you can smoke all the weed you want and it won't affect you in that sense. On the contrary they said CBD is useful for numbing the psychosis created in the mind by the disease, which is the reason many people continue to smoke cannabis even after they have been diagnosed. So ideally you need a strain with a higher CBD to THC ratio which is rather rare in the "market". This apparently would be an alternative to psychosis medicine but i'm not sure we have the validity to tell you to smoke that rather than take your meds.
 
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jtprin

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cannabineer said:
I get that. But DMT, opium etc. are natural as well. I prefer the functional definition favored by pros.

It's a bit akin to the drive to use "chemical" as a bad word. I had a sour laugh when i saw a box of foodstuff proudly labeled "contains NO chemicals!!" Du'ude, it's all chemicals. cn
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Opium is natural but that doesn't mean heroin is. DMT is naturally occurring in your brain when you sleep but that doesn't mean you're supposed to smoke it. In my opinion, if you cannot overdose, it's not a drug. Marijuana fits that category. Pretty sure opium and DMT don't.

Also, with marijuana, it's not going to permanently change your brain and/or cause pyschological issues. It might make current one's worse, but it will not take a healthy minded individual and make them crazy.

DMT is nothing to scoff at. One of my friend's brother's consistently took it and my friend says he's a completely different person.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/118820-psychological-side-effects-dmt-ingestion/ - No surprise, depersonalization is a side effect of using DMT.
 
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jtprin

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high|hgih said:
I did this for a couple of days, it was.. Whacky. I felt like I had taken a half hit of acid. All the time. Thank god I stopped taking those prozacs shortly after being prescribed, they fucked with my head.. Robolife
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I was taking 5-HTP and Xanax and thankfully nothing happened. Then again I don't know how effective the brand of 5-HTP was. Maybe it was part of my highs that I don't remember lol. Afterwards, my doctor gave me Prozac. After some research on it, I tossed that shit and haven't contacted my doctor since.
 
high|hgih

high|hgih

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The past two doctors Ive had tried to throw prozac in my face. Every prescription they have ever givin me has made things a thousand times worse. The key to anything is inside of your natural self. I guess some people really are fucked up.. But I mean... Thats where the bridge gets really narrow.

And semen is a substance/accessory :p
 
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jtprin

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cannabineer said:
That's an arbitrary redefinition imo, jtprin. cn
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Then marijuana is the only "drug" that cannot kill you and/or turn you pyschotic. It has many more benefits than detriments. You can't say that about anything else over the long-term. If you did one of the following everyday: DMT, shrooms, MDMA, cocaine, meth, or heroin... you'd be dead or insane. Not weed.
 
ganja man23

ganja man23

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jtprin said:
Then marijuana is the only "drug" that cannot kill you and/or turn you pyschotic. It has many more benefits than detriments. You can't say that about anything else over the long-term. If you did one of the following everyday: DMT, shrooms, MDMA, cocaine, meth, or heroin... you'd be dead or insane. Not weed.
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Actually, you do in fact "do" DMT every day and so do many if not most organisms in existence The molecule is structured to receive different levels of consciousness found in higher densities, but anyway it's responsible for visually translating dreams to the mind. And let me add that you cannot overdose on mushrooms (you need to eat multiples of what the stomach is capable of holding, at which point you would be too high to funtion) and that no one has overdosed before. Let's look at the definition of drug: a substance that has physiological effect when introduced to the body. I hate to tell you this but by definition it is a "drug". You mean to say that it's not a dangerous one. Much in the sense that dog is man's best friend; cannabis is man's best plant. We are genetically fond of one another and virtually cannabis poses absolutely no threats to someone physically unlike most other drugs do. You will find the distinction within the law book between "drugs" and "hallucinogens". I find the case with most hallucinogens is that they really do not have negative effects on the body like many drugs do, but they rather affect the mind.

I'm with you however, but realize that what society calls "drugs" are not just the dangerous ones like morphines and amphetamines. We consider coffee a drug ffs. I agree that if there's any one "drug" that isn't a drug, it's weed. Don't get confused with the definition of a drug and the level of fear society puts into the word. Put it this way: when you wanna burn up with your friends do you say "Hey dude let's smoke a joint" or "Hey dude let's go do some drugs". Most likely everyone says the first one because the word drug has a negative implication that you're doing something wrong.

ps don't let cn bully you because i'm almost certain he understands what you're trying to say but would rather attempt to disprove little things you say other than realize your idea as a whole; being that what most people call "drugs" in society does not contain a valid perspective with respect to cannabis, am i right?
 
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jtprin

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I know that your brain is on DMT every night but there's a difference between dreaming and smoking DMT. Your brain may naturally produce but it doesn't produce the amount compared to smoking and it happens naturally when you're asleep as opposed to inhaling it while you're awake in larger doses.
 
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jtprin

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And yeah my definition by overdose was just my first thought, not too logical, but shrooms can fuck your brain up over the long term. And if you too much at one time, irreversible damage. Marijuana is the only drug that won't fuck your brain up or kill you over the long-term.
 
GrowinTheDank

GrowinTheDank

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ganja man23 said:
Put it this way: when you wanna burn up with your friends do you say "Hey dude let's smoke a joint" or "Hey dude let's go do some drugs". Most likely everyone says the first one because the word drug has a negative implication that you're doing something wrong.
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If you were to present this poll to a group of crack heads, the results would be similar to those of a group of cannabis users. Simply because it is only natural for humans to feel the urge to justify whatever it is they're doing, no matter how wrong it may truly be.

I agree with what I believe you are saying, I just don't like the way you summed it up.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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ganja man23 said:
Actually, you do in fact "do" DMT every day and so do many if not most organisms in existence The molecule is structured to receive different levels of consciousness found in higher densities, but anyway it's responsible for visually translating dreams to the mind. And let me add that you cannot overdose on mushrooms (you need to eat multiples of what the stomach is capable of holding, at which point you would be too high to funtion) and that no one has overdosed before. Let's look at the definition of drug: a substance that has physiological effect when introduced to the body. I hate to tell you this but by definition it is a "drug". You mean to say that it's not a dangerous one. Much in the sense that dog is man's best friend; cannabis is man's best plant. We are genetically fond of one another and virtually cannabis poses absolutely no threats to someone physically unlike most other drugs do. You will find the distinction within the law book between "drugs" and "hallucinogens". I find the case with most hallucinogens is that they really do not have negative effects on the body like many drugs do, but they rather affect the mind.

I'm with you however, but realize that what society calls "drugs" are not just the dangerous ones like morphines and amphetamines. We consider coffee a drug ffs. I agree that if there's any one "drug" that isn't a drug, it's weed. Don't get confused with the definition of a drug and the level of fear society puts into the word. Put it this way: when you wanna burn up with your friends do you say "Hey dude let's smoke a joint" or "Hey dude let's go do some drugs". Most likely everyone says the first one because the word drug has a negative implication that you're doing something wrong.

ps don't let cn bully you because i'm almost certain he understands what you're trying to say but would rather attempt to disprove little things you say other than realize your idea as a whole; being that what most people call "drugs" in society does not contain a valid perspective with respect to cannabis, am i right?
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I am the bully for whispering reason, when you're the one screeching "I can't hear you lalalala!!". OK; got it.

You are misrepresenting my goal of getting the details right. If someone is sloppy with the details, the entire edifice is more than likely unsound. I lament that you declaratively state arrant BS as true*, and my opposing your folly isn't bullying. Nice try at an ad hominem smear though. cn

*example: I invite anyone interested to research endogenous DMT. It's a rumor embraced as true by the woo community but shown to have been based on bad work.
When you build your edifice on unconsolidated débris like *that*, you're wise to expect slippage and eventual collapse. ~shrug~
 
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