i clipped a good amount of my leaves off
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bigv1976
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If you wanna argue semantics dude I am sorry but the title says a good amount.
littleflavio
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there are 2 kinds of people in this world: the 1st one says the jar is half emptied and the other one says the jar is half full.
technically speaking let nature do its course for you. the big fan leaves will die eventually anyways, so why even bother cutting the leaves. oh and off topic here...there is another way of training called lollipop-ing where you trim all the stems and leaves at the bottom.
but i do take out some leaves for the reason that one of my dogs likes to eat it. fact: do you know that dogs can smell plant leaves vitamin essentials that they need to nourish, sustain in there body. so if my dog eats it, then i cut a lot of leaves for him.
it's neither full nor empty, it's simply "half a jar".
joelrinker
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its ok to cut off a few for light to get to the buds. but not too much b/c they will go into shock. and it takes a couple days to recover so they wont grow much once you do. either way its not ganna effect the buds much i beleive that one dude (darkdestruction420) he seems to know his shit
Arsehole
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Talk about beating a dead horse... This topic has been discussed thousands of times on dozens of forums. I did read an interesting thread on the subject on GC http://forum.grasscity.com/plant-training/668315-defoliating-higher-yields.html
Just for the hell of it I cut EVERY fan leaf off one of my plants, all others have been LIGHTLY trimmed. I'm 6 weeks into flower now and honestly I don't see much of a difference on the plant with no fan leaves, the buds are the same size only real difference is the lower buds are a little bigger... Hard to say for sure yet since they are not finished but so far I don't see any real advantage or disadvantage yet.
Just for the hell of it I cut EVERY fan leaf off one of my plants, all others have been LIGHTLY trimmed. I'm 6 weeks into flower now and honestly I don't see much of a difference on the plant with no fan leaves, the buds are the same size only real difference is the lower buds are a little bigger... Hard to say for sure yet since they are not finished but so far I don't see any real advantage or disadvantage yet.
MMJSpots
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I have done this both ways and if you do it correctly you will benefit greatly with bigger buds. The trick is to be moderate about trimming fan leaves. You should do the ones that are shading other colas greatly. The fan leaves on the bottom is not so big of a deal but the ones on top shading others should be removed if hindering other colas, other plants, etc. I would not suggest doing the whole plant, just whats needed in moderation. Do this to one plant and leave your others alone if you want to experiment. Enjoy.
Arsehole
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Exactly, it's not worth risking screwing up your entire crop. But there's nothing wrong with experimenting with new techniques
GotYouLooking
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Lol funny thing is last night I removed about 75% of the leaves and the smaller branches are already showing growth. Just do it slowly and see what the plant tells you and of course don't do all of them at once, experiment with one or two....
Tahmi.Guhnn
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the buds dont absorb the light. the shade leaves do. the shade leaves are essentially solar panels for the plant. if your worried about the bottom branches not getting enough light, i would suggest bending the plant over GENTLY other than that dont let the plant get too talk and remember when ou start flowering its going to streeeeeetch buddy so factor that in to the hieght of your vegging plant
Canon
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That's one hell of a back yard you got there! Can I help you mow it? Can I, can I??guess i'll toss this out there, just for view counts, .........
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Tahmi.Guhnn
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the buds at the bottom of the plant that you say "dont get enough light" are small because the fan leaves on that stem are in the dark and are not getting any light. thats just what happens when you have taller plants the light decreases exponentially the further away from the source you get. take into considerathing the fan leaves at the top of the plant are also reducing the usable light that reaches the lower levels. you could cut shade leaves to alow light to reaach to lower levels. or you could use the tie down method to move the top part of the plant out of the way. or you could just grow more shorter plants...true the very basic photosynthesis light = life sure, but did you ever wonder why the bud that has been sitting under all the foliage in the dark is so small compared to the ones in the light? see this is why i said " in moderation" because "sometimes" you need to cut a leaf or two, it does happen. my first outdoor grow we decided to test it like three years ago. we had trimmed an area so that light would get all the way to the bottom of the branch where as we left everything else the way it was, now.. the branch we trimmed a bit actually had a smaller main bud, but the rest of the buds down the branch were bigger then other lower parts of other branches. coincidence? perhaps im no plant expert just a dude who has grown a few plants who likes to try a bit of everything.
im not saying anyone here is wrong, and i do agree that the leaves are VERY important to a nice healthy plant, but i can also see how trimming a little can help the as well.
so do what you feel you need to do to your plant, if it does not work out how you planned, guess what? grow another one and dont do what ever you did to mess it up the first time... its a plant... you can grow another one.
Canon
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BINGO! Give this guy a beer on me!
Man, you've got it! Now expand what you've learned and make it work for you.
... and them buggers will turn to bud sites in no time!
(ref. Inside dirt grow) Seriously, try doing just half of a good growing plant with pruning / defoliaging and you will see for yourself. It does work well. Not for all grows I'll admit. But for the average indoor grower it's a valuable tool that equals good (very good) positive results.
Canon
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Man, you too!
You're absolutely on the right trail IMO.
That's why I'm dead set against only one centered overhead light. I'll take 2 150 watters on the top / sides way before I'll allow one in the center 250 / 400.