I could really use you guys help!!

davethepothead

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Hello my new family!
I have been smoking for some while now and finally decided to go to the next step...Growing! Im leaving college this semester and ill be back at home for a few months and ive decided to try some autoflowers. I got two northern lights-nirvana seeds coming in. i guess my only problem is they cant be grown indoors and its been in the 50s and 60s here almost every day. So any suggestions and ideas would be very helpful.

BTW im in college so $$ is an obstacle. right now i just have soil, flower pots and seeds on the way.
 

kmksrh21

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awesome, just get you some lights and you're set. cfl's (compact flourescent lighting) if on a budget.
 

bblzs

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Unless you find a way to keep the temps between 70-80f. No, they won't survive... & think about when it gets colder... The light spectrum isn't right, right now for vegetative growth...
Either grow inside or wait until spring. Do you have a shed outside? Or anything like that?
 

bblzs

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I think you need to do some research before you decided to grow as of right now you have no idea. Not being a dick about it but seriously research, it'll do you good!
 

davethepothead

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ive been researching for about seven weeks now lol. if i could grow them indoors id have no problem but they have to go outside(just these first two). ive been going through different setups but cant quite seem to come up with a perfect one.
 

davethepothead

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I have this rubber tub with a top to go with it. I thought about running a cfl through the top and putting ti tin the garage standing up. success or failure?(the chair is there to show the height)2011-12-11_21-21-04_265.jpg
 
You would need some pretty good lighting in a little container like that (3-4 55 watt, or larger, CFLs minimum) keep them close and line in the inside with reflective material (flat white paint may be your best bet, if it will stick to the material...). You could get a small LED, but do your research. Temperatures in the garage, humidity control and air exchange are also a concern.. without adequate co2 coming in, the plants wouldn't grow well, no matter the lighting or other conditions. As for outside, unless you can rig lighting and control temps, like in a greenhouse, there is no point in even trying to grow them outside now... too cold, too little light (short days, northern sky spectrum not great for growth anyway). May I ask why you can't grow in your place?
At any rate, I would urge patience.. take some time to keep reading (and not just about growing weed, read some introductory botany texts, books on soil, training, etc.) I got my start in bonsai, where I learned the importance of proper lighting, air flow (often ignored or below par) and perhaps mostly, training the plant and maintaining the root environment. I killed many over the years experimenting with training, etc., but the experience has been invaluable. Do you grow many plants now? I would start with a small indoor garden and practice caring for them.. experimenting with light regiments, watering, training, flowering, etc. etc.. It would be a shame to pay for seeds, go through the trouble of starting them and then loose the plants to poor environmental conditions. Good luck with your endeavors...
 

davethepothead

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thanks for all the help guys. ill be headed home wednsday and i guess im gonna give it a go just for fun. I already have already ordered the NL seeds so most of my time is gonna go into the setup for now. I have a Rubber/plastic tub(pics are on the first page). Im going to sit it upright in a corner of the garage with one CFL light hanging from the top.(Utilitech 300-watt indoor/outdoor)<--its from lowes. I am going to line the inside of the tub with either foil or plain white paper. The seeds will be germinated and placed directly into their pots. ventilation is my only question so any suggestions will be nice. something i forgot to tell you guys, i live in texas so the winters arent brutally cold. ill also start the plant out on 24hrs of light then switch to 18/6. is this a good idea for my setup or no?
 

Kybudz

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Yeah man cool your heals. Way it sounds you need to wait tii spring .Wait dig your holes get the ground ready and put your plant in the ground around first may or little earlier depends on where you live. But sounds like you are not prepared. I jumped right in didn't take the "read advice" had to rethink that one. Just read some stickies . Atleast give them northern lights a fightin chance to survive. But that's just my opinion .
 

davethepothead

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Lol i really wanna grow now but I know you all know alot more than i do, with that being said how hard or easy should it be to grow these? and if i wanted to grow them inside(stealth grow) how could i go about doing it?
 
There are great resources and books on indoor growing. That said, these are basically what you will need:

A container/box/tent for growing in. This should be lined with a reflective material. Mylar is great, but flat white paint can work fine, if kept clean. The unit should have an area cut out for air intake near the bottom with a screen, at least one. There should be a second 'outtake' area near the top where you can hook up an inline fan. You need a constant exchange of air to keep co2 levels up... Optimally, you want a fan that can remove the air in the box, completely, at least once per minute. If you have a small space, like 63 cubic feet (a 3x3x7 cabinet, let's say) then you want an inline fan which is rated at least 63cfm (cubic feet per minute), or more. I went higher, to ensure air exchange..(425cfm) for the same dimensions.. Hook the extraction fan to a carbon filter, if odor is an issue, and on the outtake side, you can use ventilation hosing. Seal up all connections to ensure maximum performance.

Next, you need lighting that can be adjusted in the cabinet regularly. A simple wire or chain suspended light is fine. Lighting can be tricky to explain, because some very high wattage lights have low lumen output, and even if the lumens are high, the spectrum needed for plant growth may be minimal. In general, look for a light that has high levels in the blue (400-490nm) and red (600-700nm) spectrum. HIDs are often used, but can get real hot in small spaces. One can use 'soft white' 2700k and 'daylight' 5000-6500k cfls together to maximize the red and blue. For stealth growing, a well made LED can be great, but the good ones are pricey. Again, lighting can be tricky, but the better LEDs have a great PAR (photosynthetic active radiation) output. For the veg cycle, the plant will use more of the blue spectrum, for the flowering, more of the red. Most experts will recommend at least 5000 lumens per square foot for fast growing plants. Most pro growers use way more. Keep in mind that the lumens decrease greatly the further the light must travel. The inverse square law shows that if the same light is placed 2 feet away, as opposed to one foot way, it will produce one quarter the lumens. Three feet away, it is one-ninth the intensity (lumens per square foot). So keep the lights as close as you can, but don't burn your plants!

Pots should be picked to allow the root mass to stretch down, as cannabis roots like to grow deep. ALWAYS make sure you have drainage holes. A 2 gallon pot should be plenty sufficient for a smaller indica strain, like NL. Always transplant before you start flowering, as the stress can screw up your flowers.

I would use a soiless mix for indoor cultivation, maybe augmented with some worm castings and extra perlite. Its easy to put together your own. I use coco, shagnum, turface (a hard baked calcinated-clay in 'pebble' form), in about equal proportions, then add some organic content like worm castings, bone, blood, and feather meal (generally no more than 10% of total mass, but that's me). Epsoma makes some good formulas with a bit of all of this stuff. Pick one that has roughly equal parts NPK to avoid nutrient disorders. I then add perlite till I'm satisfied with the 'airy-ness' of the mix (maybe 10-20%, depending on the consistency of your grow mix). The soil should be well draining but retentive. I use the turface stuff because it holds aprox. equal parts water and air.... Its used in bonsai cultivation a lot. Look on ebay.

I would invest in some hydroponic quality nutrients, (esp. since you won't have to use that much with a small grow) but whatever you pick, make sure you're getting the big six in your watering regularly (N,P,K, and Ca, Mg and Sulphur). A formula that has the micro- nutrients is also important... many 'complete' formulas have all of them. If you are unfamiliar with mixing nutrients, a higher quality 'complete' formula like flora-nova can be used, just make sure you have them for veg and for flowering.

Lastly, use decently rated cords and power-strips. Plug the lights into an appliance timer (makes it sooo much easier, and they are cheap) and, in addition to the inline fan, use a small fan inside the cabinet, just to help with circulation.

I think that covers the bare basics, but if I missed anything, my apologies. Do your homework. Also, for the 'auto-flowering' variety, I would stick with 24/0 or with 18/6 rather than both. I personally like 18/6 as the roots do things while its dark that they don't do during daytime growth (though what exactly, I can't remember). It would also be easier on your electric bill and equipment.

Good luck. Planning the set-up and executing it can be as fun as the grow itself, in my experience....
 

davethepothead

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Thanks man! All of that helps alot! right now i dont have any more questions im just waiting till wednsday to start on the box. i will keep everyone updated though so subscribe!
 
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