OneSickBastard
Active Member
I agree with the dude that says to turn down your lights. LED burn looks like nutrient deficiency.
bernie344
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Can you put up a link to your light?
natureboygrower
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Not everyone is happy with mids. I suppose if you dont set the bar too high, you'll never be disappointed.
Severed Tongue
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No one cares for negative's, nature boyNot everyone is happy with mids. I suppose if you dont set the bar too high, you'll never be disappointed.
If you got nothing to contribute to helping this guy NOT GIVE UP, please do.
getogrow
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DWC and all hydro is super easy. you have to follow ONE PERSONS directions because 10 different peoples methods do not work together.
If its something no one on the forum can figure out then your light is too bright. Thats almost more common then overwatering these days. SPECIALLY if you switched from hps or mh.
Other then that , do not take everyones advice but soak it in for future....
Pick one good dwc grower and follow them to the tee.
EDIT: Use a forum , NOT youtube. The guys here are more then willing to quide you through.
If its something no one on the forum can figure out then your light is too bright. Thats almost more common then overwatering these days. SPECIALLY if you switched from hps or mh.
Other then that , do not take everyones advice but soak it in for future....
Pick one good dwc grower and follow them to the tee.
EDIT: Use a forum , NOT youtube. The guys here are more then willing to quide you through.
getogrow
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After checking out your setup a bit more. i am confident you have too much light.
The rest is on whoever you are learning from. i see at least 3 or 4 things i would change but lets forget me and my assumptions,.... lets carry on to your problem. Temps are too low for leds. Your close to 10f from optimal so thats a big deal. She is so bushy that you wont see much growth while looking.
She has a couple hundred nodes to feed. If you want to SEE her grow then remove half the plant....clean her up a bit....take some branches off , leaves or whatever to open up some light to the middle. Once you have 10-50 branches then you can watch them grow. If you really wanna see a stretch right now then dim your lights to half. I would dim them to 60% ish just going by your info.
Id like to see the ph go from 5.9 to 6.5 or 7 before dropping it back down... That shouldnt make or break you if you do it or not.
That plant is way to happy to chop.
The rest is on whoever you are learning from. i see at least 3 or 4 things i would change but lets forget me and my assumptions,.... lets carry on to your problem. Temps are too low for leds. Your close to 10f from optimal so thats a big deal. She is so bushy that you wont see much growth while looking.
She has a couple hundred nodes to feed. If you want to SEE her grow then remove half the plant....clean her up a bit....take some branches off , leaves or whatever to open up some light to the middle. Once you have 10-50 branches then you can watch them grow. If you really wanna see a stretch right now then dim your lights to half. I would dim them to 60% ish just going by your info.
Id like to see the ph go from 5.9 to 6.5 or 7 before dropping it back down... That shouldnt make or break you if you do it or not.
That plant is way to happy to chop.
Well, after looking at it all I do recall raising the light 4" last Thursday while taking the light from around 60% to max. I did that last grow but I switched from a 150W LED to a 315 LEC between week 4-5 and the plant turned into a monster yielding around 1lb. I figure I'd do the same expect instead of changing the light I just increase the intensity.
It was also growing in 24/0 prior to the light increase. When I increased the light I switched to 20/4. This LED should not be more powerful than the LEC. I didnt want a 5' plant so I decided to go with a "weaker" light. The light has always been 16" minimum from the top. But you are probably right, it could have been too much light I guess. I read that light stress if it even corrects itself would take 7-10 days. Thats pretty much a dead autoflower.
Johnny Lawrence
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Ditch the DWC
rkron0413
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GrowdoBaggins
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Because organic soil is extremely easy.
rkron0413
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Unfortunately I can't grow worth a shit in soil. Same as op it sounds like. My first full cycle was dwc. Followed feed chart for the gh trio series and was using tap. Never checked my ppms and maybe checked my ph every water change. I've got very hard water. How is soil easier for someone who can't grow in soil?
dubekoms
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Maxigro and bloom will grow the plants perfectly. I use floranova bloom in veg and about 3 weeks into flower I switch to maxibloom. Autoflowers are tricky because they have a set life span, if you mess up for a couple weeks it affects the whole grow. Photoperiods are much more forgiving because if you stunt them in veg you can just keep vegging them until they grow out of it.
GrowdoBaggins
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How? Mix soil, or even easier, buy bag soil. Liquid seaweed, molasses and tap water. Top dress once a month or so. You don't even need to ph. Plus organic soil grown weed tastes so good. Less yield tho.
Just an update after 16 hours (4 of those dark) after dimming the light to 60%, I see the flower at the tops along with growth
See picMaybe its just stretch, but its better than nothing. I've seen a lot of tutorials but never came across yours. I guess I over looked:
"Get to know your specific lighting's penetration, sweetspot, and distance recommendations. "
I never used an LED this intense I guess. I went from a 150W to a 315 LEC last grow and the plant became nearly 5' tall immediately. I assumed plant of the same size could handle an LED of half the power at the same stage. I guess LED is a whole different animal.
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natureboygrower
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How was I being negative? You posted a pic of a male plant and a small bud shot of a neglected plant growing next to a window. Im not sure how you were proving anything.
My original post to you wasn't negative either. It was realistic. Yeah, i get your whole dont love em to death pov, but you also cant ignore the possibility of the unexpected. Bad weather, power failure, out of wack well water, pests, mildew, mold, critters. It's part of growing. Especially outside growing.
I did. Coots mix soil ( water only, no bottled nutes) + SIPS planters. It does not get any easier. Dude said he overwaters soil. This method is pretty much foolproof when it comes to watering and you cannot overwater or under/over feed. If you cant store soil, then I understand not wanting to mix up your own, but if you can, it's just a matter of laying out a tarp and mixing the ingredients with a spade. No cook time required.
So the plant from my first grow became almost completely devoured by nitrogen toxicity. Also was messed up from changing the light schedule from 12/12 for the first 4 weeks to 24/0 for the 3 weeks after that. Anyone who knows anything knows that is totally wrong. With a ton of help from this forum, basically I stopped all liquid nutes and have been doing only ro water for four days now and 18/6 schedule. I can already in this short time see a huge difference in the new growth of my plant. If my plant can come back from the torture I put it through, you can grow some cannabis if you just don't give up my dude.
Gentlemencorpse
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The only thing I've taken away from this thread is that at least one person thinks every growing method is the easiest lol
Seriously though OP, glad to see you didn't give up, you'll get there. I agree you should try growing a non-auto plant. New growers always think they will be easier, but I can tell you from experience that's usually not the case. Also, in your first post you say that your nutes can't be the problem because it works for others, and the Lucas formula can't be the problem, it works for others etc... ditch that mindset. Different strains respond differently to feed, lights, temps etc... one plant may love the full Lucas formula, the next may find it way too strong...
Seriously though OP, glad to see you didn't give up, you'll get there. I agree you should try growing a non-auto plant. New growers always think they will be easier, but I can tell you from experience that's usually not the case. Also, in your first post you say that your nutes can't be the problem because it works for others, and the Lucas formula can't be the problem, it works for others etc... ditch that mindset. Different strains respond differently to feed, lights, temps etc... one plant may love the full Lucas formula, the next may find it way too strong...
Bobobalast15
New Member
Send it my way or try photoperiod. They tend to be easier to grow because of how forgiving the are
Wastei
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DWC and hydroponics is easy if you follow basic principles and original system guidelines and not guidelines based on manufacturers marketing.
People miss what's good about hydro and believe they should mix dead mineral salts in readily available form with alive inoculants and organic acids for no real gain. It's a recipe for disaster. The older literature about hydro you read the better it is IMO. Real hydro(not coir) is supposed to be run sterile to be considered stable IMO.
Manufacturers want you to think hydro is a new thing when it's been used on a commercial scale for well over 50 years. Don't use dirt product and organics in DWC and pick a oxidizer of choice and get that on a shedule and dial it in. That's about it, cheers!
People miss what's good about hydro and believe they should mix dead mineral salts in readily available form with alive inoculants and organic acids for no real gain. It's a recipe for disaster. The older literature about hydro you read the better it is IMO. Real hydro(not coir) is supposed to be run sterile to be considered stable IMO.
Manufacturers want you to think hydro is a new thing when it's been used on a commercial scale for well over 50 years. Don't use dirt product and organics in DWC and pick a oxidizer of choice and get that on a shedule and dial it in. That's about it, cheers!