I give up, this is not for me...

Jkooper said:

I've read that people thing dwc plants just taste like straight chemical without flushing. I'd hate to have that.

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ZenWolf said:

Thanks but that must be a list for iPhone apps. As Photone doesn't have an Android app. And from what I've read, it's because the light sensors found on Android phones differ greatly from the sensors on iPhones and developers are struggling to find other ways (like using the cameras instead) to try and still get within acceptable ballparks of lux.

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kodak91 said:

I was also hoping my android luxmeter app was accurate, but after seeing this article is highly unlikely.

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Jkooper said:

I want to start saying thanks to those who tried helping me, but I have a K deficient thumb and realize I will never be able to grow any plant in my life.

Today I'm chopping down my 420fastbuds autoflower. Growth has been stunted for a week now. I made a bunch of mistakes my first grow and corrected nearly all my mistakes with this second grow, but somehow it ended up... worse.

My first grow produced buds, but the autoflower giant (Big Bertha I called her) ended up 5' tall getting scorched by my 315 LEC. She may have also been over fed (full Lucas formula 0-8-16) since she was drinking so much from the intense light. I got A LOT of extracts off her to supply me for a long time so at least it wasn't a complete waste.

This second grow I ended up end gradually raising the nutrients to full lucas of 0-5-10 which she is at right now at ~600ppm being full week 5 today. Also bought a fancy HTG LED light to help me control light intensity and gives me more head room in case she turns into another giant. I also have a fancy ph meter along with a cheap one calibrated with all the nice calibration liquids. She has been sitting at 5.9 the whole time. Temperature has been 72-74 during the day and 68 at night. 40% humidity and the root appear to look great besides the discoloring that GH nutrients do to the roots.

Everyone says "ph issues" but sadly that is far from what is wrong. Being an analytical person, when I dial in the specifications needed to grow in DWC and things go south, I just have to give up. There is nothing else I can do, lucas formula works for people so I know its not that, GH nutrients work for people, so I know its not that. My only option would be to do something that is out of specifications which wouldn't make much sense.

Maybe I live in an area which a strong magnetic field, or maybe prone to solar flares. or maybe the stars awkwardly align in a way that makes plants unable to grow (which would explain all my grass and trees in my yard. Used RO water with calmag the whole time, so I know its not my water supply.

Sorry for the rant, mainly just here to say thanks, and that this community seems alright, it's just not for me. Pictures are before being chopped (Day 33). They looked like this for a week with no change even though they are drinking about a quarter gallon and the ppms drop maybe 30ppm a day. Looking at Growdiaries, even soil grow of this same strain had flowers at this point.

Anyone want a HTG LED light or a LEC? I'll give them away cheap (at least pay more than it cost to ship them).

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Hollatchaboy said:

I use this one
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Seems to work pretty good imo, but I'm not an expert so you'll have to try for yourself.

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ZenWolf said:

I've tried a few, thing is I don't have any way of knowing how accurate they are. Every review comparison of them I've found seems to be using iPhone versions of the apps compared to light meters to get a sense of accuracy. I mean I think I've gotten some 'good enough' baselines at this point but I really don't have any way of knowing really. Am more curious than anything.

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Hollatchaboy said:

Look... stay between 5-10% water by volume of soil. Unless you're using bottled nutes, then water to 20% runoff. Get a garden sprayer and some yucca extract. Growing in soil is easier than you think.

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kodak91 said:

With organic bottle nutes, i think theres no need to water till run-off. I also water 5-10% pot volume and that works great for me. Some ppl and companies say water 20-30% pot volume but i think thats rly bad... soil becomes too compact and easy to overwater...

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Hollatchaboy said:

I think it depends on the bottled nutes. I believe there's only one true organic bottled nute and that's fox farms bloom. Ime, salt build up will still occur without runoff.

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kodak91 said:

i use the entire biobizz bottle nute line and afaik is 100% organic

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kodak91 said:

i use the entire biobizz bottle nute line and afaik is 100% organic

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conor c said:

I use there allmix there bloom and veg thats all tho i do give them a little bit of other organic amendments and a bit of blackstrap molasses i really dont think theres a better bottled nutrient line for taste thats for sure its decent stuff i wouldnt follow there chart tho but then again i wouldnt use any nutrient company's charts and recommendations they all tend to be off in my experience

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Jkooper said:

I want to start saying thanks to those who tried helping me, but I have a K deficient thumb and realize I will never be able to grow any plant in my life.

Today I'm chopping down my 420fastbuds autoflower. Growth has been stunted for a week now. I made a bunch of mistakes my first grow and corrected nearly all my mistakes with this second grow, but somehow it ended up... worse.

My first grow produced buds, but the autoflower giant (Big Bertha I called her) ended up 5' tall getting scorched by my 315 LEC. She may have also been over fed (full Lucas formula 0-8-16) since she was drinking so much from the intense light. I got A LOT of extracts off her to supply me for a long time so at least it wasn't a complete waste.

This second grow I ended up end gradually raising the nutrients to full lucas of 0-5-10 which she is at right now at ~600ppm being full week 5 today. Also bought a fancy HTG LED light to help me control light intensity and gives me more head room in case she turns into another giant. I also have a fancy ph meter along with a cheap one calibrated with all the nice calibration liquids. She has been sitting at 5.9 the whole time. Temperature has been 72-74 during the day and 68 at night. 40% humidity and the root appear to look great besides the discoloring that GH nutrients do to the roots.

Everyone says "ph issues" but sadly that is far from what is wrong. Being an analytical person, when I dial in the specifications needed to grow in DWC and things go south, I just have to give up. There is nothing else I can do, lucas formula works for people so I know its not that, GH nutrients work for people, so I know its not that. My only option would be to do something that is out of specifications which wouldn't make much sense.

Maybe I live in an area which a strong magnetic field, or maybe prone to solar flares. or maybe the stars awkwardly align in a way that makes plants unable to grow (which would explain all my grass and trees in my yard. Used RO water with calmag the whole time, so I know its not my water supply.

Sorry for the rant, mainly just here to say thanks, and that this community seems alright, it's just not for me. Pictures are before being chopped (Day 33). They looked like this for a week with no change even though they are drinking about a quarter gallon and the ppms drop maybe 30ppm a day. Looking at Growdiaries, even soil grow of this same strain had flowers at this point.

Anyone want a HTG LED light or a LEC? I'll give them away cheap (at least pay more than it cost to ship them).

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Jkooper said:

I want to start saying thanks to those who tried helping me, but I have a K deficient thumb and realize I will never be able to grow any plant in my life.

Today I'm chopping down my 420fastbuds autoflower. Growth has been stunted for a week now. I made a bunch of mistakes my first grow and corrected nearly all my mistakes with this second grow, but somehow it ended up... worse.

My first grow produced buds, but the autoflower giant (Big Bertha I called her) ended up 5' tall getting scorched by my 315 LEC. She may have also been over fed (full Lucas formula 0-8-16) since she was drinking so much from the intense light. I got A LOT of extracts off her to supply me for a long time so at least it wasn't a complete waste.

This second grow I ended up end gradually raising the nutrients to full lucas of 0-5-10 which she is at right now at ~600ppm being full week 5 today. Also bought a fancy HTG LED light to help me control light intensity and gives me more head room in case she turns into another giant. I also have a fancy ph meter along with a cheap one calibrated with all the nice calibration liquids. She has been sitting at 5.9 the whole time. Temperature has been 72-74 during the day and 68 at night. 40% humidity and the root appear to look great besides the discoloring that GH nutrients do to the roots.

Everyone says "ph issues" but sadly that is far from what is wrong. Being an analytical person, when I dial in the specifications needed to grow in DWC and things go south, I just have to give up. There is nothing else I can do, lucas formula works for people so I know its not that, GH nutrients work for people, so I know its not that. My only option would be to do something that is out of specifications which wouldn't make much sense.

Maybe I live in an area which a strong magnetic field, or maybe prone to solar flares. or maybe the stars awkwardly align in a way that makes plants unable to grow (which would explain all my grass and trees in my yard. Used RO water with calmag the whole time, so I know its not my water supply.

Sorry for the rant, mainly just here to say thanks, and that this community seems alright, it's just not for me. Pictures are before being chopped (Day 33). They looked like this for a week with no change even though they are drinking about a quarter gallon and the ppms drop maybe 30ppm a day. Looking at Growdiaries, even soil grow of this same strain had flowers at this point.

Anyone want a HTG LED light or a LEC? I'll give them away cheap (at least pay more than it cost to ship them).

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CikaBika said:

Dude I got busted on easter.. Ended up in jail..

Had my house raided, been public ashamed..
And I will never surrender.. I would killed to swap my situation for yours..Don't ever stop Growing!!
NEVER!

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kodak91 said:

oh god. Why was it raided tho? Some1 snitched or did u fked up?

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bk78 said:

Those still have like 3 weeks to go. No need to starve them, continue with your feeds.

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Jkooper said:

Week 13, she looks tasty. I can wait longer, but I might still pick some off tonight to dry n' try. Sorry for the lower quality images.
This strain by 420Slowbuds says it will have a mix of white and orange hairs at harvest. Finally seeing plenty of brown hairs now.

For anyone reading:

Anyone know why DWC takes longer than soil for autos (heard soil can take 2 months from seed)?

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