I GOTTA LOSE THE AIR PUMPS! HOW?! Plus my awesome mini DWC :)

Tfunk0704

Tfunk0704

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Airwalker16 said:
I'm confused
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I just saw he was trying to get rid of air pumps due to noise and I had the same prob so I figured I’d let him know how I did it. I’m not sure if he still needs info I just figured I’d try to help cause it’s the only thing that worked for me
 
PetFlora

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PetFlora said:
I am a sucker for increasing oxygen in my rez, but it seems we don't 'need' to go to such extremes

Simple DIY flooming will provide all a small growers rez needs.

Lots of ideas on YT

I have my flooming pump on a deep cycle timer 2-3 minutes on and 20-30 minutes off is working just fine. Longer times can cause the pump to heat up and therefor the nutes
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(EDIT 7/06/18) Ive changed my mind on this. It appears that the emitters increase DO by ~ 50%, AND, being nano molecules, they should be considerably more bioavailable. What difference that makes is yet to be determined. Alas, I have yet to find a grow using it
 
PetFlora

PetFlora

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Keesje said:
If you do F & D or RTW, it is totally uneccessary to areate your reservoir.
The moment that water comes out of a tube and get in cpntact with the air, it will have maximum DO.
The only reason why one could use a circulationpump in your reservoir, is to make sure that your water and nutrients are mixed well.
For the rest, no need at all.
Maxium DO is soooooo easy to reach.
Besides that, there is oxygen around your roots when they are not flooded.
If the roots are just damp, they will uptake so much oxygen in gaseous state.
The moment the roots get flooded, the roots will uptake water and oxygen (DO).
And after the drain, enough small waterdrops are around your roots, and also enough oxygen.
Oxygen in gaseous state is hundreds of times more effective, which the roots will uptake because of the film of water around the roots.
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while this sounds good on paper (and could be 100% true), I would like to see actual lab quality tests vs having nanobubbles in the rez. One question is: how long does the non-nanobubble DO stay in the rez after the drainback? O2Grow says the nanobubbles stay in suspension for hours if not agitated

Another is assuming standing water has 8% DO, will an increase by 50% (12%) justify the O2Grows 2020 (20g max rez) $300 expense?
 
Airwalker16

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firsttimeARE said:
Looks cool. After struggling with f&d I'mma do the same tote approach to run multiple plants. That would transfer better to an rdwc system as well.

Have mom's in 5 gals, cloner tote with 24 sites, week 1-2 veg tote with 8 per tote. Week 2-4 tote with 3-4 sites per and then move them to the rdwc. The cloner tote can double as a seed starting tote
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You ever end up Rollin my idea over to your setup?
 
Airwalker16

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zooolcsi said:
That thing is way overpriced. The whole thing sits on a very simple method of splitting the water to oxygen and hydrogen.

In big system I’d be worried about the hydrogen gas...


I was looking around and saw 2 more very interesting thing.

First one called Carmin. I don’t really get how it works but absolutely looks awesome in action.


And here is the other technic that easily can create nano bubbles.



Let me know what do you think, I’m total new but these methods look more efficient than air stones.
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So what is this Carmon thing? It's definitely some sort of venturi, but I want to buy/build one. Those bubbles are sweet. What's the low down on this thing?
 
PetFlora

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I am using the O2G 2020 for my current grow. If you are not circulating the rez (RDWC) you only need to operate it ~ 30 minutes/4 hours/~ 10-20 gallons. I run the misting pump ~ 2 minutes/10-15 minutes.

The mist heads (see roots picture above from previous grow) clog easily. Until I double wrapped the pump in nylon I was unclogging the heads every couple hours. And if I left for 5+ hours I would come back to find roots suffering BADLY!

Somehow the plants survived, and have no reason to look as good as they do, other than because of the O2G

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Airwalker16

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PetFlora said:
I am using the O2G 2020 for my current grow. If you are not circulating the rez (RDWC) you only need to operate it ~ 30 minutes/4 hours/~ 10-20 gallons. I run the misting pump ~ 2 minutes/10-15 minutes.

The mist heads (see picture above) clog easily. Until I double wrapped the pump in nylon I was unclogging the heads every couple hours. And if I left for 5+ hours I would come back to find roots suffering BADLY!

Somehow the plants survived, and have no eason to look as good as they do, other than because of the O2G
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Very neat. But I've lost interest in that expensive piece of equipment as falling water in to each bucket seems to be doing even better than air stones werwere with the added benefit of No Noise!!
 
Airwalker16

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There are LOTS of threads on the O2Grow emitters. You'd be doing the community a favor if you posted pics of you using it and information on those threads.you're as far as I know, the first to use one
 
PetFlora

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Airwalker16 said:
There are LOTS of threads on the O2Grow emitters. You'd be doing the community a favor if you posted pics of you using it and information on those threads.you're as far as I know, the first to use one
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when I brought it up about a year ago I got a TON of grief from people who never used it. Don't want to give them another excuse as t got pretty heated with me defending myself.
 
maxamus1

maxamus1

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So have you totally gone away from the air pump then? Ive looked at doing the venturi and even buoght a pump that came with one but it was so small it didnt help. Once i get my permanent set up i may try to build one.
 
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