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The_Dude

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Waterfalls are a lot cheaper
So are sprayers? Aerponic style? Wonder if that would add more oxygen. Maybe I don't understand, but building a waterfall doesn't seem practical. Not happy with any solutions, none speak to me anyway. I'm gonna have to spend either way. Suucks.
 

The_Dude

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I love these forums, always getting good ideas. Do any of you fight higher temps? Does this waterfall system do better with higher temps?
 

Axion42

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I love these forums, always getting good ideas. Do any of you fight higher temps? Does this waterfall system do better with higher temps?
I believe it does better with higher water temps than air stones because its breaking water surface, and its cycling back. I use a 600gph pump so I move a lot of water in short time. But keep in mind, you always run the risk of something bad once you start getting over 72+ degrees water temps.
 

Airwalker16

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I love these forums, always getting good ideas. Do any of you fight higher temps? Does this waterfall system do better with higher temps?
If you're doing any water culture, it needs to (in my opinion) be chilled for massive and healthy growth. Aeroponics is my next venture for mom area. That and flood and drain are only two that don't need chillers.
 

ttystikk

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If you're doing any water culture, it needs to (in my opinion) be chilled for massive and healthy growth. Aeroponics is my next venture for mom area. That and flood and drain are only two that don't need chillers.
I used to think this but my plants told me differently.
 

ttystikk

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I believe it does better with higher water temps than air stones because its breaking water surface, and its cycling back. I use a 600gph pump so I move a lot of water in short time. But keep in mind, you always run the risk of something bad once you start getting over 72+ degrees water temps.
I tested this by deliberately introducing water from rotten roots into my system. Exactly nothing happened.
 

The_Dude

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My temps range from high 80's in the day time to 70 at night. I don't have any root rot, and roots keep getting bigger and bigger. I am using a heavy dosage of hydroguard. Also running AZO bacteria, and Mykos WP. Plants dark green.
 

Airwalker16

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I used to think this but my plants told me differently.
All I know, is in the mom setup I've used with 10gal low profile totes, the roots get down into the water, happily, then get going but after a while turn brown and stringy, and rot. The plants are healthy but the roots are definitely not. And with chillers, I see nothing but white, solid, fish bones.
 

ttystikk

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All I know, is in the mom setup I've used with 10gal low profile totes, the roots get down into the water, happily, then get going but after a while turn brown and stringy, and rot. The plants are healthy but the roots are definitely not. And with chillers, I see nothing but white, solid, fish bones.
Are you running waterfalls?
 

Axion42

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I've taken a lot of flak about waterfalls but the bottom line is that they work.

With NO AIR PUMPS.

With NO CHILLER.

Why would people keep insisting they buy and maintain and operate more expensive equipment? Enquiring minds wanna know!
I wanna know your water temps!
 

ANC

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I've taken a lot of flak about waterfalls but the bottom line is that they work.

With NO AIR PUMPS.

With NO CHILLER.

Why would people keep insisting they buy and maintain and operate more expensive equipment? Enquiring minds wanna know!
I use a waterfall on the receiving end and inject my water through 10 small beams from butterfly rainjets in a Tee. My water can last ages, I make sure to innoculate the res with bacteria from my aquarium filters. Once in a while, I will run pool shock, just to be sure.,
 
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