Alienwidow
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Jeez man, those four lights are one thousand dollars each and youll still need an ac. For that price you could get an hps running and still have enough to buy an a/c and co2. Or three hps sets 
I Have $500
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bicit
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Out of the listed panels, I'd get the gavita or CMH bulbs. Those panels will certainly grow a plant, but they wouldn't be what I would consider and upgrade over HID lighting. Esspecially the blackstar, blackdog, and kind panels.
One thing to keep in mind, is that heat is a function of power displacement. So if you're running a 1000w HID, running 1000w of LED will not reduce your temps at all. Esspecially if your HID setup is in a cool tube of some sort. In order to reduce temps, you have to reduce power consumption.
All of the panels you listed are cheap china crap, rebranded and sold at a premium. If you have $1300 to blow, I would recommend one of these with the lens removed.
http://opticgrowlights.com/500-watt-cxb3090-led-grow-light.html
puffenuff
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Out of your list here, I'd go with the California Lightworks. If you are sticking with Growershouse, also consider the Apache Tech or Lumigrow.
bicit
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There are also a few people on the board that would be willing to build a panel for you and ship it. Depends on what level of security you desire.
I say roll up your sleves and dig in.... most of the 'skills' required aren't hard at all and would fit in the realm of a minimum wage worker skill set IMO.
I say roll up your sleves and dig in.... most of the 'skills' required aren't hard at all and would fit in the realm of a minimum wage worker skill set IMO.
PoodleBud
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How can you tell if they're made in China? Several of them specifically say "made in USA" which is why I was considering them.
I feel like my questions are idiotic and frustrating to those more experienced, but I really am starting from scratch when it comes to LED set up. I MUST find cooler lights as I can't move my tent - just trying to figure out the best way to do that and really don't understand much less know which elements are required. That said, I am grateful for everyone's patience with me.
Positivity
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The optic Vero series on eBay or webpage...Google...
Using about the best LEDS out. Buy one... Than you can decide if want to pay a build fee or make your own if you need more light.
bicit
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Idiotic no, not at all. Everyone has to start someplace. Frustration, is a non-concern since it can go up in smoke in a flash
What light are you using currently? Is it possible to add a AC to your garage?
AquariusPanta
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Where are you from, China?
I expect a minimum wage worker, in the United States, to be able to flip a "patty" and balance out a cash register at the end of a shift, but not to possess mechanical and electrical engineering skills.
bicit
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Pretty much..... wages suck in this area.
blowincherrypie
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10 vero29
If you can follow the instructions to build a 300 piece lego kit with your babies, you can wire up a Vero29 with an ez mate to a cpu heatsink wit kapton tape imo.. My daughter can hook up legos and a V29 but still has problems flipping that burger just right.. Havent gotten around to having her balance the checking account yet lol
AquariusPanta
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You know I started off with legos, right?
I'm not saying it's rocket science but they don't teach this shit in school and if they do, it wasn't taught at any one of the three different schools (two public, one private) that I went to prior enrolling into college. Even in college, the technical "hands-on" experience doesn't take place until well after the first year of one's trial. Furthermore, I've never seen soldering and electrical wiring as something a possible employer sought after when attempting to fill a minimum wage position.
Then again I don't live in China or Taiwan.
bicit
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I may have been exaggerating a bit, When I think 'minimum wage skill set' I think, 'I can teach a laymen in less than 8 hours of training'. Realistically most of the skills to build a cob based light can be self taught with some basic google searches and some visual aid from youtube. Not to mention there are a few threads detailing the basic procedure. Everything is nicely labeled and color coded even. Basic arithmetic is all the functional math necessary.You know I started off with legos, right?
I'm not saying it's rocket science but they don't teach this shit in school and if they do, it wasn't taught at any one of the three different schools (two public, one private) that I went to prior enrolling into college. Even in college, the technical "hands-on" experience doesn't take place until well after the first year of one's trial. Furthermore, I've never seen soldering and electrical wiring as something a possible employer sought after when attempting to fill a minimum wage position.
When I think 'difficult' I look at stardust sailor designing/etching/building DC circuitry from scratch....
AquariusPanta
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Hehe, yes realistically everything today can be self-taught through the aide of the internet. I was just thinking to myself the other day how foolish it is for people to go to college, without the pursuit of enjoying the social side of it, and paying to learn things that are already out there on the "net", that of which are technically free.
Sailor is an exception to the herd.
bicit
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Well you're paying for a piece of paper at college. A certification to prove you (vaguely) know what you know to an employer. With a DIY build, all that matters is that it works.
AquariusPanta
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That's IF you make it to the finish line and obtain a piece of paper.Well you're paying for a piece of paper at college. A certification to prove you (vaguely) know what you know to an employer. With a DIY build, all that matters is that it works.
It's a do or die sort of gamble in my opinion, one that leaves a majority at a loss or two. It could be argued either way but without getting to specifics, based from my experiences attending four different on-site colleges (two universities and two public colleges), the system is outdated and inefficient at best.
PoodleBud
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Minimum wage, lego savant, or doctorate level, I'm a right brain person. Wires, soldering,
Thanks. I'll get back to you about my current light set-up. I have to go in there and remind myself what there is. I've already got a portable a/c unit in the tent that works when I grow in the winter, but will never cut it in summer.Idiotic no, not at all. Everyone has to start someplace. Frustration, is a non-concern since it can go up in smoke in a flash
What light are you using currently? Is it possible to add a AC to your garage?
OneHitDone
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Whatever you choose, I wouldn't drop my hard earned $ without seeing some kind of photographic or first hand results
I know your talking led but have you considered Inda-gro induction? Heat issue solved and a single 420par with pontoon does cover a 4x4 quite nicely. 460 or so total watts if I remember correctly plus some other technology mixed in with the pontoon led's and phytochrome switch etc