OregonMeds
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Makes jesus taste a whole lot more spooge like than those body of christ crackers.Was it good fer you, baby?
I Have A ? For You Religious People.
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Green Cross
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If we can educate people in a way that causes them to reject their own heritage, and the religious beliefs of their parents, we can enact our communist plan, just as Stalin did right?
Hey, for all of you who don't believe in any other dimension other than the one you are so focused on, can you explain the recent overwhelming interest in the occult? Why is it most young folks don't believe in God, but they are quick to glom on to embrace the occult?
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OregonMeds
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"If we can educate people in a way that causes them to reject their own heritage, and the religious beliefs of their parents, we can enact our communist plan, just as Stalin did right? "
Athiest don't get together to form plans. It's cristians that get together and make laws which force their limits and what behavior they deem appropriate and inapropriate on to others.
Being a preacher I'm sure you are thinking objectively about all this right?
People look for answers and things to keep their minds busy all the time. Just because the occult is more popular now or whatever doesn't mean any of that crap has any validity just like your crap doesn't have any validity either just because a lot of people believe something in no way makes it true.
"Athiest don't get together to form plans. It's cristians that get together and make laws which force their limits and what behavior they deem appropriate and inapropriate on to others.
Being a preacher I'm sure you are thinking objectively about all this right?
People look for answers and things to keep their minds busy all the time. Just because the occult is more popular now or whatever doesn't mean any of that crap has any validity just like your crap doesn't have any validity either just because a lot of people believe something in no way makes it true.
HappySack
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What must the handsome prince fight in his effort to save the princess? A dragon! What is one of the central symbols of eastern culture and found in every parade? A dragon! What animal do you find pictured in every Chinese food restaurant? A dragon! Prior to the discovery of dinosaur fossils in the 18th century, these creatures were referred to in many cultures as "dragons". Now we view dragons as mythical when in reality they are real cultural memories of dinosaurs now extinct. It would be very hard to believe that so many people from so many different places could have come up with such similar stories and similar descriptions if dragons never existed. According to ancient stories, dragons cam in many shapes and sizes. Some could fly, some could swim and they even laid eggs just like dinosaurs!
The Bible mentions two dinosaurs by name and describes them in great detail. "Behemoth" (Job 40:15-24) and "Leviathan" (Job 41:1-34) From the description found in Job, scientists have attempted to identify these animals. They believe "Behemoth" is a Hippo and "Leviathan" is a Crocodile. But these scientists limited their choices to non-extinct species and did not consider the possibility of dinosaurs because man and dinosaur never coexisted. Oh really? Even in my own personal Bible a footnote suggests these two animals were a hippo and a crock! But there are some obvious reasons why this conclusion is wrong.
First, "Behemoth" cannot be a Hippo because of Job 40:17 "He bends his tail like a cedar". A hippo has a short tail like a pig. Behemoth, had a large tail shaped like a cedar tree (large and tapered). I believe a better choice is that Behemoth is a Brachiosaurus type of large land dwelling dinosaur. It fits the description perfect.
Second, "Leviathan" cannot be a Crocodile but is probably a Elasmosaurus type of large water-dwelling dinosaur. Here is what Job 41 says with my comments in brackets, "v9 you be laid low even at the sight of him? (This was a large animal) v10 No one is so fierce that he dares to arouse him; v25 When he raises himself up, the mighty fear; (crocs don't raise up at all but are always low) Because of the crashing they are bewildered. v26 (This animal was large! This animal made seismic thunder as it walked. You know...that slow, low, terrifying thud that Jurassic park portrayed so well.) v26 The sword that reaches him cannot avail; (crocs are quite easy to kill with a good spear) Nor the spear, the dart, or the javelin. (Croc wrestling is a sport, the croc usually looses) v31 He makes the depths boil like a pot; He makes the sea like a jar of ointment. v32 Behind him he makes a wake to shine; (crocs make little wake if any) v34 He looks on everything that is high" (again it was a tall animal with a long neck).
What is significant about this is that if "Behemoth" and "Leviathan" are dinosaurs, then is it crystal clear that Job had either seen them personally, or there was a recent memory of them. This of course flies in the face of current evolutionary theory.
The Paluxy River in Texas is the home of Dinosaur National Park with hundreds of fossil dinosaur tracks. Right beside the dinosaur tracks are three sets of human fossil footprints and a large cat track. The most famous track is the Taylor Trail which consists of a series of 14 footprints in a left-right pattern. The stride and foot length is consistent throughout. The evidence is so convincing that several university students recently presented with all the data accepted that the human footprints were real, but doubted the dinosaur footprints were real. All the fossil footprints in the Park are genuine. No informed person would ever suggest that the human footprints were carved as was irresponsibly rumored 50 years ago. It is clear that man and dinosaur live together and co-existed at the same time. With this both science and the Bible agree!
So next time you order your favorite Chinese food dish, take a second look at the mural of the dragon on restaurant wall or on the take out container. Then go home an re-read Job 40-41
So here is my question to you, If humans evolved from monkeys, why aren't monkeys still turning into people?
The Bible mentions two dinosaurs by name and describes them in great detail. "Behemoth" (Job 40:15-24) and "Leviathan" (Job 41:1-34) From the description found in Job, scientists have attempted to identify these animals. They believe "Behemoth" is a Hippo and "Leviathan" is a Crocodile. But these scientists limited their choices to non-extinct species and did not consider the possibility of dinosaurs because man and dinosaur never coexisted. Oh really? Even in my own personal Bible a footnote suggests these two animals were a hippo and a crock! But there are some obvious reasons why this conclusion is wrong.
First, "Behemoth" cannot be a Hippo because of Job 40:17 "He bends his tail like a cedar". A hippo has a short tail like a pig. Behemoth, had a large tail shaped like a cedar tree (large and tapered). I believe a better choice is that Behemoth is a Brachiosaurus type of large land dwelling dinosaur. It fits the description perfect.
Second, "Leviathan" cannot be a Crocodile but is probably a Elasmosaurus type of large water-dwelling dinosaur. Here is what Job 41 says with my comments in brackets, "v9 you be laid low even at the sight of him? (This was a large animal) v10 No one is so fierce that he dares to arouse him; v25 When he raises himself up, the mighty fear; (crocs don't raise up at all but are always low) Because of the crashing they are bewildered. v26 (This animal was large! This animal made seismic thunder as it walked. You know...that slow, low, terrifying thud that Jurassic park portrayed so well.) v26 The sword that reaches him cannot avail; (crocs are quite easy to kill with a good spear) Nor the spear, the dart, or the javelin. (Croc wrestling is a sport, the croc usually looses) v31 He makes the depths boil like a pot; He makes the sea like a jar of ointment. v32 Behind him he makes a wake to shine; (crocs make little wake if any) v34 He looks on everything that is high" (again it was a tall animal with a long neck).
What is significant about this is that if "Behemoth" and "Leviathan" are dinosaurs, then is it crystal clear that Job had either seen them personally, or there was a recent memory of them. This of course flies in the face of current evolutionary theory.
The Paluxy River in Texas is the home of Dinosaur National Park with hundreds of fossil dinosaur tracks. Right beside the dinosaur tracks are three sets of human fossil footprints and a large cat track. The most famous track is the Taylor Trail which consists of a series of 14 footprints in a left-right pattern. The stride and foot length is consistent throughout. The evidence is so convincing that several university students recently presented with all the data accepted that the human footprints were real, but doubted the dinosaur footprints were real. All the fossil footprints in the Park are genuine. No informed person would ever suggest that the human footprints were carved as was irresponsibly rumored 50 years ago. It is clear that man and dinosaur live together and co-existed at the same time. With this both science and the Bible agree!
So next time you order your favorite Chinese food dish, take a second look at the mural of the dragon on restaurant wall or on the take out container. Then go home an re-read Job 40-41
So here is my question to you, If humans evolved from monkeys, why aren't monkeys still turning into people?
morgentaler
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Wow, plagiarize much?
http://www.bible.ca/tracks/b-dinosaurs-mentioned-in-bible.htm
You also assume that evolution has an end goal - that for some reason a primate ancestor should gravitate toward human form.
Evolution doesn't think ahead. It doesn't plan for tomorrow. It is the gradual change of species over time as natural pressure selects from the genetic profiles most successful at achieving reproduction.
Monkey's are related to humans, but they are not going to turn into humans.
But you already know that. If you can go out finding nonsensical biblical arguments you can also look up some of the links presented in this thread explaining genetic drift and ring species.
Instead you'd rather cut and paste someone's nonsense about historical accuracy of the bible (oh, fuckoff), reference the Taylor Trail (at which the locals *admitted* to adding some human footprints to accompany the well worn dinosaur footprints that non-paleontologists had mistaken for human), and use the claim that prior to the mid-1800s no dinosaur fossils had been seen.
You're a troll. And not even a good one. You're a lazy troll that didn't even try to find a half sensible argument.
http://www.bible.ca/tracks/b-dinosaurs-mentioned-in-bible.htm
We didn't evolve from monkeys. If you are going to ask a question, based on a premise, then you should make a minimum effort to actually verify that your starting premise is correct.
You also assume that evolution has an end goal - that for some reason a primate ancestor should gravitate toward human form.
Evolution doesn't think ahead. It doesn't plan for tomorrow. It is the gradual change of species over time as natural pressure selects from the genetic profiles most successful at achieving reproduction.
Monkey's are related to humans, but they are not going to turn into humans.
But you already know that. If you can go out finding nonsensical biblical arguments you can also look up some of the links presented in this thread explaining genetic drift and ring species.
Instead you'd rather cut and paste someone's nonsense about historical accuracy of the bible (oh, fuckoff), reference the Taylor Trail (at which the locals *admitted* to adding some human footprints to accompany the well worn dinosaur footprints that non-paleontologists had mistaken for human), and use the claim that prior to the mid-1800s no dinosaur fossils had been seen.
You're a troll. And not even a good one. You're a lazy troll that didn't even try to find a half sensible argument.
morgentaler
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Hate to break it to you, but religion is the occult. They're just looking at ones that are more interesting to them.
Remember kids, any supernatural phenomena outside of person X's religion is not acceptable! You must adhere to the worship of the God-Thing!
And how is this recent anyway? One of the first popular silent movies was Nosferatu. Edger Allen Poe and HP Lovecraft excelled at occult fiction.
It gets harder to find entertainment like that as you start to go back in history, because your religious comrades would *murder* people for witchcraft or blasphemy at the drop of a hat.
I'm left handed. There are a few places and periods in history where that would have been a death sentence if I did not hide such a fact.
CrackerJax
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The sad part of this post is the author is either completely ignorant or a manipulator. Amen??
morgentaler
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Except that your straw man argument doesn't have a brain.If we can educate people in a way that causes them to reject their own heritage, and the religious beliefs of their parents, we can enact our communist plan, just as Stalin did right?
Stalin communism wasn't just a political system. It was dogmatic, the dialectic to remain unquestioned.
Dogmatic faith is bad. Whether it's religious or political. People who are trained not to question authority, religious or political, eventually end up doing terrible things, because eventually someone in power is going to take advantage of that faith.
Stalin's dogmatic communism demanded atheism not from logic and reasoning, but simply because dogma does not tolerate opposition. Religion dictates to the people, and a political dictator who tolerates competition does not stay in power very long. Stalin did not only crush religion where he found it. He controlled or murdered anyone capable of formulating reason or organization in opposition to him. Thousands of scholars and scientists were milked for their skills and then sent off to labor camps or execution because rational, educated people are a threat to a dogmatic system.
So now that you threw out your straw man argument, I expect to see your tin man and cowardly lion arguments shortly.
CrackerJax
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Pointing out that a heritage which is FALSE is a NOBLE deed, no matter the amount of resistance.
morgentaler
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He might as well have said:
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CrackerJax
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elderberry insults!!!
Stoney McFried
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So uh...because some old book written a thousand years ago in Hebrew,(by authors noone can verify)which has since been translated into several languages by people of of varying levels of honesty and education who didn't all agree on the exact meaning of each and every word,and also heavily edited for content and completely rewritten with new characters and an altered story line says there were large creatures who walked the earth,those creatures existed?And were dinosaurs?And using the bible to prove the bible totally defeats the theory of evolution?Mmmmkay.
OregonMeds
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Dinosaurs with people ok.
How come monkeys aren't turning into people today? Wow your mastery of the concept of evolution is astounding.
How come monkeys aren't turning into people today? Wow your mastery of the concept of evolution is astounding.
CrackerJax
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9 out of 10 teachers recommend good spelling in sig lines.
OregonMeds
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wreck-o-mend
CrackerJax
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ahhhh ... you mended. that'll be three fitty
OregonMeds
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I'll have to pay you in buds that's all I have.
Thanks though, totally missed that one.
Thanks though, totally missed that one.
CrackerJax
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BUDS!!!!
Mauihund
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I didn't intend to continue posting to this thread, but I did want to say I said all that without smack, I was smackless, smack free zone here. I spoke to you like I talk to my friends........ as if they can handle whatever I have to say. I think that's respectful. At least thats where I was coming from.
If a guy I knew told me he just killed a woman because he thought she was a witch. But, he told everyone I gave him instructions to do so, my response would be something like "Are you out of your fucking mind?!!". The answer to that rhetorical question would be yes. He was out of his mind. People say all kinds of shit to justify their greed, murder and selfishness. Even christians. Maybe especially christians.
This is my attempt to describe the damage the christian church has done to society. By using God's word for their own selfish ends, many have taught their children an image of God that comes from in their own selfish minds. Like Nietzsche said (close, anyway) "We have created God in our own image. We then found him impotent, so we killed him. God is dead." If that is an unjust paraphrase, I apologies. But it still makes my point......
......which is, regardless of the specific cercomestances and details in your religious experience, no one can depend on others to teach them how to think. As a child you are kind of predisposed to listen to your parents point of view, but you didn't know their opinions were just as skewed as everyone else's. It sounded like you were saying that because someone told you "God gave them permission to harm you" in some way, you believed them. Then when you found out later they were full of shit, you concluded God didn't exist. I could be wrong. It's happened before. But, I say it without smack.