Snow Crash
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Thanks for coming by and if you read this, thank you in advance for putting up with all the text. I hope you can appreciate the process. I could really use some input regarding the future direction of my grow.
About 50 days ago I placed 20 seeds in coco.
As luck would have it, 19 of 20 seeds hatched. The only loser was a KC Brains Mind Bender (KC#33 x Brazilian). Eventually the other Mind Bender was deemed Male, so no KC Brains genetics this time (thank god!).
Yet something interesting happened. One of the beans, Nirvana Ice, sprouted two plants.
So I was back to twenty plants again after separating the roots after transplanting.
A few weeks later and some plants are doing much better than others. This was expected and one of the reasons for running so many different strains. I'm looking for one that runs best in my own system. As it turned out, my own seeds were the most vigorous... All of the plants had been topped and some responded better than others. Also, some root systems (Sour Cream, Sour Kush) hadn't developed as well as others and got hit by a little over watering, slowing them a touch.
One of the plants had gone straight Mutant. The Sensi Star has these ruffled leaves, they are EXTREMELY strong and the stem is outrageously tough. Pinching leaves off her takes some doing. Enjoys Higher ppm's than the other plants which I recognized eventually.
After removing the first three males which appeared very early on
I began checking for sex pretty regularly. So here we are, just flipping to 12/12.
The problem is... I have 15 Female plants and only 1000w in 25sqft to grow them in. When beginning this project I was expecting at best 10 Female plants, so I'm wondering where to go from here. I don't think I'll have the space for all them to finish, even with the grow through plant trainers I'm going to use to keep them limited to a 16" circular foot print.
Now, on the side I have a 2x4 tent with a 400w that will be opening up in a few weeks, maybe 15 days, after I harvest what is in there. I had planned on cloning my 10 females to that tent and running those clones until after harvest and selecting one or two plants to keep as mother's for a while.
Since I have so many girls I'm thinking I could maybe just clone to a closet I have in the room with some CFL bulbs and move over maybe just the Chronic plant to the 2x4 tent and run that with the 400w all alone. Still though, that leaves me with 14 plants in what I wanted to be a 4x4 footprint, and dozens of clones stuck in a closet with like 250w of CFL's (unless I man up and get myself an 8-bulb 4 foot T5).
Sooooooo.... What would you do? What would you keep? I'm at a loss here because I'd rather just keep the good stuff. Ugh! Don't you just hate having too many girls and having to consider just trashing a few of them?!?!
(Yes, I know it is a ton of shit. Seems to be working pretty well though. The key is watching the EC and making sure to get plenty of run off.)
Genetics
Element Zero (EZ): Big Bud x Mr. Nice cross strain made in my own closet from some bag seeds I got from Greenway Dispensary in Santa Cruz, CA. Admittedly, the beans could have been fathered by another strain... So there might be something else in there. Still though, just a very easy to grow, heavy yielding, Indica. Out of 5 plants I have 3 females remaining. I also have about 40 seeds left to continue the line.
Jesus' Sister: A few random seeds found in the last harvest. Immaculate conception; gifted to me from Jah itself. Found in some very delicious DNA Genetics Cole Train (Jasmine SSH x Train Wreck). Three distinct Pheno's in 4 seeds, one that leans to the Cole Train, One that looks more Sativa, and one that looks just indica. Best plants in the grow room. Out of the 4 seeds planted, all of them are female, and I have no extra seeds to continue this line after this grow. I want to keep all of these around to see how it turns out no matter what. Watching for Hermaphrodites too.
Everything else I have just one female of.
Nirvana: Ice
Paradise Seeds: Sensi Star (mutant pheno) and Wappa
Serious Seeds: Chronic
Magus Genetics: Motavation and Warlock
DNA Genetics: Sour Cream and Sour Kush (aka headband)
About 50 days ago I placed 20 seeds in coco.
As luck would have it, 19 of 20 seeds hatched. The only loser was a KC Brains Mind Bender (KC#33 x Brazilian). Eventually the other Mind Bender was deemed Male, so no KC Brains genetics this time (thank god!).
Yet something interesting happened. One of the beans, Nirvana Ice, sprouted two plants.
So I was back to twenty plants again after separating the roots after transplanting.
A few weeks later and some plants are doing much better than others. This was expected and one of the reasons for running so many different strains. I'm looking for one that runs best in my own system. As it turned out, my own seeds were the most vigorous... All of the plants had been topped and some responded better than others. Also, some root systems (Sour Cream, Sour Kush) hadn't developed as well as others and got hit by a little over watering, slowing them a touch.
One of the plants had gone straight Mutant. The Sensi Star has these ruffled leaves, they are EXTREMELY strong and the stem is outrageously tough. Pinching leaves off her takes some doing. Enjoys Higher ppm's than the other plants which I recognized eventually.
After removing the first three males which appeared very early on
I began checking for sex pretty regularly. So here we are, just flipping to 12/12.
The problem is... I have 15 Female plants and only 1000w in 25sqft to grow them in. When beginning this project I was expecting at best 10 Female plants, so I'm wondering where to go from here. I don't think I'll have the space for all them to finish, even with the grow through plant trainers I'm going to use to keep them limited to a 16" circular foot print.
Now, on the side I have a 2x4 tent with a 400w that will be opening up in a few weeks, maybe 15 days, after I harvest what is in there. I had planned on cloning my 10 females to that tent and running those clones until after harvest and selecting one or two plants to keep as mother's for a while.
Since I have so many girls I'm thinking I could maybe just clone to a closet I have in the room with some CFL bulbs and move over maybe just the Chronic plant to the 2x4 tent and run that with the 400w all alone. Still though, that leaves me with 14 plants in what I wanted to be a 4x4 footprint, and dozens of clones stuck in a closet with like 250w of CFL's (unless I man up and get myself an 8-bulb 4 foot T5).
Sooooooo.... What would you do? What would you keep? I'm at a loss here because I'd rather just keep the good stuff. Ugh! Don't you just hate having too many girls and having to consider just trashing a few of them?!?!
Grow Info
These plants are growing in a 5x5 Mylar tent under a 1000w Lamp. Vegetated under a Phillips MH and currently under an Eye Sunlux HPS. Using a Cool Sun 6 reflector and Budget Grow 2 Sun System Ballast. Ventilated using a 6 inch 440cfm inline fan from Hydrofarm with a speed controller, usually kept on the lowest setting. (Most) Plants are currently in 3 gallon Smart Pots. Canna Coco amended with Humboldt Nutrients Myco Maximum. Humidity will fluctuate with the weather from 30% to 50% but is usually around the upper 30's (mold is bad in the Pac Norwest this time of year). Temperatures had been low which stunted the growth a little, but are now kept around 76 degrees lights on and 70 degrees lights off. Top fed with a 5.8pH solution, though the probe on my Hanna had been unreliable until just recently when I got it replaced, so I was kinda winging it for a while there. Fortunately coco is pretty forgiving with the pH as long as you're close and don't do it for too long. Hooray for pH buffering!
I have my way, you have yours, let us just leave it at that.
Current EC around 1.7, 860 PPM (Hanna). Will be dropping it to around 1.4, 700ish PPM, for most of flowering.
Measurements are in ml per gallon
Canna Coco A+B: 5-8 of each for 10 to 16ml total (depending on time of life)
Canna Rhizotonic: 5-8
Botanicare Cal-Mag Plus: 2-5 (lowered as flowering progresses)
Botanicare Liquid Karma: 8
Dyna-Gro Protekt: 3
Humboldt Nutrients Sea Mag: 2-3 (flowering only)
Advanced Nutrients Nirvana: 5 (flowering only)
General Hydroponics Liquid Kool Bloom: 2-3 (mid to late flowering PK boost)
TechnaFlora pH- down Nitric Acid: as req. (about 1.5 to 2ml per gallon though)
Nutrients:
The concept here is to run a baseline of nutrients I am comfortable with. The plants that thrive on MY method are keepers so I can just do my thing. I would REALLY appreciate people keep the input on my choice of nutrients out of here. In the future I'm thinking of moving over to Dutch Master Gold in a stadium Aero/NFT system so it's not like you'll get anywhere with a rant against nutes.
I have my way, you have yours, let us just leave it at that.
Current EC around 1.7, 860 PPM (Hanna). Will be dropping it to around 1.4, 700ish PPM, for most of flowering.
Measurements are in ml per gallon
Canna Coco A+B: 5-8 of each for 10 to 16ml total (depending on time of life)
Canna Rhizotonic: 5-8
Botanicare Cal-Mag Plus: 2-5 (lowered as flowering progresses)
Botanicare Liquid Karma: 8
Dyna-Gro Protekt: 3
Humboldt Nutrients Sea Mag: 2-3 (flowering only)
Advanced Nutrients Nirvana: 5 (flowering only)
General Hydroponics Liquid Kool Bloom: 2-3 (mid to late flowering PK boost)
TechnaFlora pH- down Nitric Acid: as req. (about 1.5 to 2ml per gallon though)
(Yes, I know it is a ton of shit. Seems to be working pretty well though. The key is watching the EC and making sure to get plenty of run off.)
Genetics
Element Zero (EZ): Big Bud x Mr. Nice cross strain made in my own closet from some bag seeds I got from Greenway Dispensary in Santa Cruz, CA. Admittedly, the beans could have been fathered by another strain... So there might be something else in there. Still though, just a very easy to grow, heavy yielding, Indica. Out of 5 plants I have 3 females remaining. I also have about 40 seeds left to continue the line.
Jesus' Sister: A few random seeds found in the last harvest. Immaculate conception; gifted to me from Jah itself. Found in some very delicious DNA Genetics Cole Train (Jasmine SSH x Train Wreck). Three distinct Pheno's in 4 seeds, one that leans to the Cole Train, One that looks more Sativa, and one that looks just indica. Best plants in the grow room. Out of the 4 seeds planted, all of them are female, and I have no extra seeds to continue this line after this grow. I want to keep all of these around to see how it turns out no matter what. Watching for Hermaphrodites too.
Everything else I have just one female of.
Nirvana: Ice
Paradise Seeds: Sensi Star (mutant pheno) and Wappa
Serious Seeds: Chronic
Magus Genetics: Motavation and Warlock
DNA Genetics: Sour Cream and Sour Kush (aka headband)
