I just can't
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Hook Daddy
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You should not use completely made up facts when they are so easy to prove wrong. I have sailed around the earth several times, your statement could not be more incorrect. In fact ships have flying bridges to see further since they are higher up, and you can see a ship on the horizon from the flying bridge before spotting it from the bridge. Once a ship sails over the horizon a bigger set of eyes will not help, but getting higher up or closer will, and that is fact not made up bull shit.
Rob Roy
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So if you were on a spinning globe and FLEW around a globe world, would you arrive at your destination sooner if you flew into the spin or away from the spin? Does the atmosphere planes fly in somehow spin with the globe ?
Is there a line of demarcation where the atmosphere doesn't spin with the globe or is a gradual dissapation and the higher up you go it gradually changes?
Hook Daddy
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What does that have to do with seeing a ship sail over the horizon, then getting a telescope or binoculars and magically being able to see the ship again? Why would you quote my post then talk about planes and flying? And yes I have flown so far I got there before I left. I stand by my statement that many of the “facts” being used are absolutely incorrect, that is all.
Rob Roy
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I've heard oceans and lakes "cling" to the surface of the earth when it spins. Obviously if the globe earth theory is accurate, it must do that since we know water seeks it's own level if we pour it into a container, it goes flat.
Your post about sailing made me think, what if a plane which is not on water "attached" to the earth reached a certain height etc. what would happen.
So in that sense your post helped me come up with another question. Also, I am high and intend to get high as fuck later, maybe I will get sooo high, I will reach the upper atmosphere and be able to answer my own question.
Hook Daddy
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And for your question yes the atmosphere spins with the earth. The difference is air speed and ground speed is called wind. Otherwise if you jumped in the air you’d land half a mile away.
Horselover fat
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^fifteen kilometers...
TaoRich
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Nope ... it goes curved, not flat. That's just an approximation on small scales.
The ocean is water in a giant container. The water surface is rounded like the earth.
A plane is on air.
A ship is on water.
Rob Roy
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Is that sufficient height to make a determination or was he speculating about no curvature?
Rob Roy
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BUT! When water is on a plane, it stays flat! Spooky huh?
weedstoner420
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Pisscard's elevation = 15.7 km
Earth diameter = 12,742 km
To scale, if the earth was a ball 50 ft across, he would have been 0.74 inches above the surface.
Horselover fat
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I'm saying most of us have been almost as high.
Rob Roy
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Thanks for the scale comparison.
So if he was up at that height and didn't notice a curvature, why would somebody on the surface in a ship be able to ?
Is Picard lying or inadvertently incorrect ?
buckaclark
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I agree with this,imo the Earth's gravitational well causes "flat" to have curvature in this instance.I may be mistaken but I believe the special theory of relativity allows.
weedstoner420
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Someone on a boat probably won't notice it either, but it can be inferred from the fact that the bottom disappears over the horizon before the top, and when you get up in the crow's nest you can see things that are farther away.
I dunno that he was lying, just saying how it looked to him.
Hook Daddy
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As a member of Tripoli Rocketry club I can tell you it is not hard to take a model rocket, fit a camera to it, launch it, and get a picture of the earths curvature without going into space. Clubs do it almost every day. You can watch it go up, come down, and look at the video seconds later.
Billy the Mountain
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Agreed, but if basic logic and observation prevails over the scientific illiterate, this thread would have ended quickly.
Hard to tell if it's willful ignorance or just sheer stupidity
Rob Roy
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As a member of the Montezuma speculation club, I want to know if a marine pride song about his brethrens presence "from the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli" why if an ex-marine NASA astronaut went to the moon the song didn't get new lyrics to reflect the places marines go ?
Since the marine braggadocio song hasn't been amended could we speculate they never really went to the moon and the earth is flat with an inescapable firmament dome over it ? Marines are not submarines, so I don't think they would engage in subterfuge....or would they?
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Rob Roy
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On that line of thinking do you think the military was just trolling people when they called it "Operation fish bowl" when they shot nukes up high in the early 1960s or was that just a weird coincidence?
Hook Daddy
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With that logic I see where your coming from. I tried to visit the Montezuma speculation club website but I guess it’s another club without the funds to afford even a Facebook page.