I need some cloning advice or tips please.

Ohhh I see. Sorry to hear that. White hais man white hairs. At two months old the plant should probably be showing preflowers regardless of light schedule. But if its in full flower the top should look something like this. this is about 12 days flower I think.

but yeah if has only been like a week take your clones and let her continue to flower.

cool it looks a bit less developed than that, not as many hairs, so its probably not too old. Took some cuttings today ;D

thanks a lot for the picture.

oh sorry i thought u cloned a leaf.....lol my bad i was a bit potted......but anyway i stumbled onto a new cloneing product and its wicked cheap.......they are rockwell micro plugs.......they look like little rockwool with slits in them all u do is presoak and they slide a clone in.....i like to keep an elastic around it so its constantly moist then you either pop it in a hydro setup or in dirt....check them out i love em....36 for like 5 bucks i think i forget im potted again.....gl

luielugatz said:

oh sorry i thought u cloned a leaf.....lol my bad i was a bit potted......but anyway i stumbled onto a new cloneing product and its wicked cheap.......they are rockwell micro plugs.......they look like little rockwool with slits in them all u do is presoak and they slide a clone in.....i like to keep an elastic around it so its constantly moist then you either pop it in a hydro setup or in dirt....check them out i love em....36 for like 5 bucks i think i forget im potted again.....gl

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Hey Lui. Lots of people are checkin this thread for cloning tips I'm sure so TYVM for this worthy addition.

Its been another week and the clone is....it's growing like a weed.

Already accepting some LST.

In my experience, unless you use an airstone in the water (which shouldn't be just distilled water-it should be a cloning solution like Olivia's or Power Clone), then you get a lot of microbial problems that prevent rooting and encourage pythium (root rot). You can alternatively set up a device like a power cloner where the stem is periodically sprayed with cloning solution like an aeroponic setup. Also, again in my experience, it is important to keep the air temperature at 70 degrees F with fluorescents about 12 inches away. Without cloning solution you are not bathing the the roots in rooting hormone. I personally use rootcubes that have been saturated in cloning solution which I refresh every 4-5 days. I also dip the stems in Green Light rooting powder. I get virtually 100% success.

Your right thats pretty much what I learned here. Its all about the airstone. Thats why the others ones didnt make it. I didn't see any use for it with no roots to use the O. I was waiting for the roots and the clone was waiting for the O. I didn't think about the microbial ramifications either. TY inval

I use the air stone. But I just use tap water and a little superthrive. Most of the time I have roots start in 5 days and move to soil around 15.

You can buy a cloner, or just open one up at a grow store and see that they are incredibly simple. You can make one for under half the price people charge for them, but that is the price of convienence I suppose.

A good pond pump, some pvc pipe, a hack saw, some pvc pipe glue, some minature sprinlker heads, a decent rubbermaid storage tub (black or as dark as possible, no translucent tubs), and the one thing you'll need from the grow store is the black foam pac-man plant holder thingys (they're about 50 cents a piece) these require a 1 & 7/8ths inch auger bit to drill the holes in the top of the rubbermaid storage bin. If you get a chance, see one in action, then you will see how easy it is to replicate.

Also the air stone as previosly mentiond helps out a lot as well, provides oxygen for the roots in that enclosed space.

I use Blu Moon Mega Roots concentrate in mine, works very well with the air stone.

I couldn't afford to buy a cloner, so I made my own, if you can afford one, more power to ya! The trick is to get them to stop leaking, even commercial cloners seem to leak, from the ones I've seen anyway

I've tried the bubble cloner system and have had nothing but poor results. I dont why I even tried one when with my original method I have a 100% rooting success rate.

Here is my method that is proven itself time and clone again!

1. take my cuttings with 1 to 2 nodes that will be under the medium & pre cutting the leaves off the node sites to be buried.
2. soak them for 24 hours in a 1/3 strenth solution of B1/superthrive.
3. after soak I re-cut nodes & bottom with x-acto blade & lightly scrape the sides of cutting that will be dipped & buried.
4. now dip n swirl cutting in a 30:1 solution of Dip N Grow liquid / distilled water for 10-13 seconds
5. now insert your cutting in a plastic dixie type 8oz cup with driiled holes for drain/absorb & 50/50 mix of perlite/vermiculite pre-wet with distilled water with an insert hole made with a small stick or pen and lightly pack meduim around cutting.
6. it then goes into the clone box which has two 40watt flouro tubes almost touching cuttings on a 24 hour cycle. I mist the cuttings 3 times a day and fill the clone pan just up to the little bottom line of cups (about 1/8"). I also add a heating pad under the clone box set on med to keep water above ambient temp in res. I re-fill water when it evaporates 100%

Using this method I have 100% success on clones and have protruding roots in 7-10 days depending on strain.

Way to go muscle Bud. I made a little bubble cloner. here is what I do. fill the res with tap water add a little superthrive wrap and stuff cuttings in the lid plug it in. Put the dome on and mist twice a day. roots in 5 replant in 15.

I was describing an "aeroponic" cloner, I'm sure some of you have seen them. Is that the same as a bubble cloner? I'm always interested in new ways of cloning, thats why I have what I'm using now.

Are there pics available of the bubble cloner?

thanks!

here is a couple pics of my little one. and one of the little tree I grew in it. From a 4th week flowering clone. sorry didn't rely take pics to show it . you can see the root rot from growing in that little res. water got way to warm in the flower room. that was before the cool tube.

here are a few more.

I've had huge problems with keeping res temp and water temp down. I have a working cloner but i don't know how to keep it cool since it's under the light all the time. is there a cooling element i could buy or do i just have to load frozen water bottles all day. which doesn't help. it melts to fast. like a 2liter bottle in 2 hrs maybe 4 if i'm luck and get a cooler day.

Scuba said:

I've had huge problems with keeping res temp and water temp down. I have a working cloner but i don't know how to keep it cool since it's under the light all the time. is there a cooling element i could buy or do i just have to load frozen water bottles all day. which doesn't help. it melts to fast. like a 2liter bottle in 2 hrs maybe 4 if i'm luck and get a cooler day.

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I'm assuming you do not have an airstone in your res.... Might want to try that, fixed some temp issues I was dealing with at one point.



To answer the original issue:
*note* I didn't read the entire post b/c it started getting off topic, so this might have already been said *note*

When I started trying to clone I spent about 2 months playing with the rockwool cubes and a tray/humidity dome. I could not for the life of me get anything to root. I knew what my issues where but I couldn't get over them. What my problems was, was patients and figuring out how often I needed to water them. So what I did which fixed everything, was to setup a diy bubble cloner. I didn't look at any of the diy setups on here or anywhere else, I just figued out what they need, which is mostier and air. So I took a clear rubber maid container, one that would be used for food, and cut holes in the lid so that I could put neoprem inserts into it. With a cloner like this I didn't see any reason to have the container dark, as you can easily clean it out if any signs of alge apear. I like the small container sizes as well, because you can deal with it alot earier and put it anywhere below a light. Also the neoprem inserts can always be switched out with pieces of tubing with a slit on the side so that it can be opened and the clone inserted, incase you can not get them. Anyways, I added bubble stones to the container so that bubbles come up under the clones. When the clones are put into this setup they should have just a tiny bit of the stem in the water. They could even be suspended above the water as long as the bubbles splash the stem. Thats it... You can add rooting hormone, which will speed up the process, but its not needed. Also, there is no need to have any kind of humidity dome or atleast I have never seen any need for this unless your RH in your area is below 40-50%.

And simple to just fix what you have setup right now, which is a clone in a cup of water is to add a airstone to it. You can root a clone by just putting it in standing water but you will get poor roots, small and not very useful, and it will take a very long time.

Some of you might disagree with what I have said but it doesn't matter to me. I've had 100% success rate from my setup and thats without having to do anything but cut a clone with a node on the end and stick em in the cloner.

You have resurrected and old thread. But your advise is solid. That clone sat in that cup for 3 weeks and no roots. I put an airstone in the cup and had roots 3 days later. That clone is now a mom growing out of control lol. She has givin me 4 cuttings that i have in a bubbler bowl i made, pretty much like the one you decribed.