I think I should start over.
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Distortionist
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I got my chiller today! It's still not warm enough to use here but I can close the walk in closet now and not worry about temps getting high in the res.
Still waiting on AC for the tent it should be here tomorrow. I also got a dehumidifier for the closer the tent is in, it gets humid in there and I am worried. I'll keep the tent around 60 and the closet at 50? Does that sound good or is 50 still high?
I also dimmed my lights. Give the plant a break. I've discovered I've been mixing nutes too strong too. I think I got it just right now, my ph is much more stable (thanks to RO I installed on the weekend).
This light used to draw 450w but it wasnt even maxed out! It goes up to around 700 when I crank it all the way! I have it down to 400w right now.
Still waiting on AC for the tent it should be here tomorrow. I also got a dehumidifier for the closer the tent is in, it gets humid in there and I am worried. I'll keep the tent around 60 and the closet at 50? Does that sound good or is 50 still high?
I also dimmed my lights. Give the plant a break. I've discovered I've been mixing nutes too strong too. I think I got it just right now, my ph is much more stable (thanks to RO I installed on the weekend).
This light used to draw 450w but it wasnt even maxed out! It goes up to around 700 when I crank it all the way! I have it down to 400w right now.
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Guys my plant is weird. Parts of it look ok other parts look like crap. I ran out of ideas. Everything is perfect in the tent now. I am confident my light isnt too bright, water temp is between 17 and 19, the chiller activated once when set to 19 so my water should be good. Using RO water. I think my roots are just not recovering. theres lots of new growth all over but the bad clump is still there and a week and a half of heavy chlorine and h2o2 isnt getting rid of it. I am tempted to chop it off. Here are pics and let me know what you guys think. I'm ok with killing the plant and trying to clone it if you guys think its screwed. If it won't clone I have seeds and people to get more clones from. What do you guys think? Chop? Kill and start over? More h2o2 and chlorine? I've never had this issue before and I really need help making my next move. AC arrives tomorrow but the temp in the tent is stable at 25. Humidity 50 to 60. I even turned the drip ring to a timer 15 on 45 off to help with drainage issues if it's the cause. I am positive it's all because of my roots, and I worry most about what i cant see.
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Guys my plant is weird. Parts of it look ok other parts look like crap. I ran out of ideas. Everything is perfect in the tent now. I am confident my light isnt too bright, water temp is between 17 and 19, the chiller activated once when set to 19 so my water should be good. Using RO water. I think my roots are just not recovering. theres lots of new growth all over but the bad clump is still there and a week and a half of heavy chlorine and h2o2 isnt getting rid of it. I am tempted to chop it off. Here are pics and let me know what you guys think. I'm ok with killing the plant and trying to clone it if you guys think its screwed. If it won't clone I have seeds and people to get more clones from. What do you guys think? Chop? Kill and start over? More h2o2 and chlorine? I've never had this issue before and I really need help making my next move. AC arrives tomorrow but the temp in the tent is stable at 25. Humidity 50 to 60. I even turned the drip ring to a timer 15 on 45 off to help with drainage issues if it's the cause. I am positive it's all because of my roots, and I worry most about what i cant see.
Pics.
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fragileassassin
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once roots are rotted, they don't recover. They get replaced. You're looking for healthy new root growth as the sign of improvement.
Distortionist
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Is it safe to chop that bad clump in the picture and be done with it? I know there may be consequences but it's not going away. I fear what's in the hydroton but theres nothing I can do about that. Should I try chopping that crap off before giving up and starting over? I included pics all those white roots are new and parts of my plant look while others look like shit. I amm guessing the shit ones are connected to that brown clump!
fragileassassin
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Like I just said... its not going to go away.. new growth will grow around it.
If there is healthy looking stuff below it, leave it be and just keep an eye on it for a bit to make sure it doesn't spread.
And thats not really how that works.
Its the same with leaves though. Most major damage won't go away and you have to look at new growth.
Patience is important, sometime you need to just leave things alone and wait. Hydro bad happens fast, recovery is often slow.
If there is healthy looking stuff below it, leave it be and just keep an eye on it for a bit to make sure it doesn't spread.
And thats not really how that works.
Its the same with leaves though. Most major damage won't go away and you have to look at new growth.
Patience is important, sometime you need to just leave things alone and wait. Hydro bad happens fast, recovery is often slow.
Airwalker16
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You've gotvkots of new healthy roots. use a STERILE razor blade and cut off the entire blog of rotten roots, and then some of the mass above it as well, if there's any healthy bits above it at all.
Distortionist
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Thanks. I'll leave it be then. There are new healthy roots and it is not spreading, but it is causing my plant pots of greif but all those white roots are new.
I may use a squirt gun loaded with h2o2 and aim for that clump twice a day if it doesn't get better in a week. If that doesn't work I'm going to chop all those sick roots and if it kills my plant so be it. I'm sick of fighting this lol.
Distortionist
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You know what... I am so sick of this I'm going to do it right now before the lights go out. Screw those roots!
Airwalker16
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Ya cutting them out is absolutely your best bet.
Distortionist
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I found the main root coming down that is the source of all that clump, I grabbed it from right under where it pops out and a little tug just pulled it off. Words cannot explain how satisfying it is to see that disgusting clump go. I just wish there is nothing like that in the hydroton. I guess I'll find out soon enough. Look at what it's doing to my plant. I didn't add any h2o2 or chlorine today and look at the shape of this poor plant lol. I feel bad for it but I've been doing everything I can for it! Hopefully it starts to recover. By next monday I think if I am still having issues I'm just taking clones or get a clone from somewhere.
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God it looks so miserable lol. I genuinely feel bad for the poor plant.
Distortionist
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When this is done I'll post the timelapse of this struggle. It would be interesting to see the plant struggle for weeks in fast motion. I'm evil I know.
rob333
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your using organics in a dwc yea
rob333
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for one thats not root rot thats build up 2 diff things as u can see the new root line comming out looks a little brown but its still new root
rob333
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root rot smells like infection and it will stink ya hole room out also u get brown fungus everywere from the sides all the way up to the stem
Airwalker16
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It's not root rot Huh? How do you figure that? What would this dark, squishy and deteriorating mass of roots be called then?
Airwalker16
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Again, I encourage you to definitely try to recover the best way you can, but know that an unhealthy donor plant has a very low rate of success at rooting any clones from it.
Distortionist
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Correct although I believe what started all this is overheating my room with a new light. I've grown with the exact same food in the same setup before for years with no issues but I stopped growing for 10 years.
Here's my understanding of everything I did wrong thing grow.
1. Did not wash hydroton. Got lots of mud. Ph swings
2. Cheap 100 dollar and watt light replaced with powerful new light that took everything in my room to 40 degrees c for hours
3. Light way too powerful for young plant
4. Mixing food way too strong
6. Overwatering, dripper on top part always on. Turned it to 15 on 45 off today.
7. Rockwool. I remember peeling it off in the past but didn't remember why. I do now.
8. No chiller, got one installed today.
I switched to non organic food to try and resolve this but I didn't get anywhere. I am hoping those chopped roots may help recovery but on monday if it looks sickly still I'm pulling the plug and starting over with my new found wisdom.
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