I think it's time

Cyrus420

Cyrus420

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Douglas.Curtis said:
Thought about that a few times, willing to consider it if the position is away from population. ;)

BUT
I'm going to stop you right there, I've heard this bs before and it's garbage for hydro. Were this the case, I would be unable to run a hydro res for 4 months without dumping or some kind of 'waste' buildup. It just doesn't happen, at least not in my reservoirs.

There's a lot of b.s. in the cannabis world and the "your plants are shedding toxins and *whatever* into the water" is pretty old bs.

I find the dry and cure to be significantly more important, to growers who aren't fully aware of the delicacies of cannabis yet. When cannabis is grown cleanly, this process is much less touchy. First of all, my cannabis burns soft, cool, deliciously and with amazing aroma, zero harsh, when it's simply dried.

Putting it in a jar at 55% and tucking it away for a few months adds additional layers of complexity.

Purely a delight.

Why? What's your freshly dried cannabis smoke like?
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Zero harshness with no cure, only drying?

Bullshit.
 
Dr. Who

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Douglas.Curtis said:
BUT
I'm going to stop you right there, I've heard this bs before and it's garbage for hydro. Were this the case, I would be unable to run a hydro res for 4 months without dumping or some kind of 'waste' buildup. It just doesn't happen, at least not in my reservoirs.

There's a lot of b.s. in the cannabis world and the "your plants are shedding toxins and *whatever* into the water" is pretty old bs.
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Over 40 years of growing this.
Longer for other things.
Run a 4 organic farm co-op.
College

I'm sorry, but everyone from College profs to Ed Rosenthal and of course myself. Say that your mistaken on this!

Your quite welcome to run your op any way you see fit! But, I smell "something",, as any good established hydro grower WILL say you need to dump and refill any res from time to time, and 4 months is way too long a time!

I also said nothing about "TOXINS".....That's your word.

You DO NOT flush - pull - remove nutrient content from the plant by your methods! It just won't work that way

I QUOTE from the administrator of Sensi Seeds on the general concept of "flushing".

"The theory of pre harvest flushing is to remove nutrients from the grow medium/root zone. A lack of nutrients creates a deficiency, forcing the plant to translocate and use up its internal nutrient compounds."

"Many influences play key roles in the taste and flavor of the final bud, like the nutrition balance and strength throughout the entire life cycle of the plant, the drying and curing process and other environmental conditions."

"Preharvest flushing puts the plant(s) under serious stress. The plant has to deal with nutrient deficiencies in a very important part of its cycle. Strong changes in the amount of dissolved substances in the root-zone stress the roots, possibly to the point of direct physical damage to them. Many immobile elements are no more available for further metabolic processes. We are loosing the fan leaves and damage will show likely on new growth as well.

The grower should react in an educated way to the plant needs. Excessive, deficient or unbalanced levels should be avoided regardless the nutrient source. Nutrient levels should be gradually adjusted to the lesser needs in later flowering. Stress factors should be limited as far as possible. If that is accomplished throughout the entire life cycle, there shouldn’t be any excessive nutrient compounds in the plants tissue. It doesn’t sound likely to the author that you can correct growing errors (significant lower mobile nutrient compound levels) with preharvest flushing.

Drying and curing (when done right) on the other hand have proved (In many studies) to have a major impact on taste and flavour, by breaking down chlorophylls and converting starches into sugars. Most attributes blamed on unflushed buds may be the result of unbalanced nutrition and/or overfert and unproper drying/curing."



 
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Dr. Who said:
Over 40 years of growing this.
Longer for other things.
Run a 4 organic farm co-op.
College

I'm sorry, but everyone from College profs to Ed Rosenthal and of course myself. Say that your mistaken on this!

Your quite welcome to run your op any way you see fit! But, I smell "something",, as any good established hydro grower WILL say you need to dump and refill any res from time to time, and 4 months is way too long a time!
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Well, then it's time for a change. The only reason to dump a reservoir, before 4 months of life, is because you screwed it up. College professors and Ed Rosenthal are hardly "Cannabis Experts" in my book. Hell, the entire USA is suffering from being buried in low quality cannabis the Ed and Jorge methods grow.

Dumping your res every 2 weeks is for newbs following the (buy our nutes) mfg recommendations. Since most methods I see listed on how to grow cannabis in hydro are garbage, you really HAVE to dump every 2 weeks. There's a HUGE difference in quality, when you grow cannabis cleanly, with professional reservoir management methods.

You won't ever see a professional greenhouse dump their reservoirs every 2 weeks, it's an asinine waste.

Step up to real reservoir management and see what clean cannabis is really about. It takes about 4 months to start seeing pH spotting on leaves in hydro. I haven't dumped a res during flower since I picked up my first pH pen, nearly 13 years ago now.

Show me the lab results of nutrient solutions proving your side? I've seen the results of properly tending a res, it rocks. :)

Douglas
p.s. that sensi seeds info applies to soil, not the way I grow. Thanks :)
 
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Cyrus420

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Douglas.Curtis said:
I try not to call bullshit on things I've not taken the time to fully understand. YMMV

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Dude everything you talk about since you've joined this site has been shit no one understands because it all come from your own personal conjecture with zero evidence. I asked you a shit ton of questions in another thread and you defaulted to just focusing on the fact I called you out on sounding like a snob.

I'd honestly love to know how you achieve zero harshness with no cure at all when you detail nothing about your own processes. You just keep saying "I know so therefore it's right."

Like honestly you're being a real drag because you keep insisting you know without backing anything up. So you've been growing for eight years and have written one book...that is great but your own head is so high up your own ass no one can tell if your information is actually useful or not because so far the only things I've seen you post have been generic information anyone can google or claims about how sensitive you are or how you grow higher quality weed than iconic growers.

How about instead of talking about your sensitivity, your book, or just making generic one or two sentence replies to full on questions you actually detail your methods or discuss how you do what you do rather than talking yourself up? Up until now you seem little more to me than a shill for your own self.

RIU is for sharing knowledge and so far you've shared nothing but anecdotal bullshit.
 
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Douglas.Curtis said:
Well, then it's time for a change. The only reason to dump a reservoir, before 4 months of life, is because you screwed it up. College professors and Ed Rosenthal are hardly "Cannabis Experts" in my book. Hell, the entire USA is suffering from being buried in low quality cannabis the Ed and Jorge methods grow.

Dumping your res every 2 weeks is for newbs following the (buy our nutes) mfg recommendations. Since most methods I see listed on how to grow cannabis in hydro are garbage, you really HAVE to dump every 2 weeks. There's a HUGE difference in quality, when you grow cannabis cleanly, with professional reservoir management methods.

You won't ever see a professional greenhouse dump their reservoirs every 2 weeks, it's an asinine waste.

Step up to real reservoir management and see what clean cannabis is really about. It takes about 4 months to start seeing pH spotting on leaves in hydro. I haven't dumped a res during flower since I picked up my first pH pen, nearly 13 years ago now.

Show me the lab results of nutrient solutions proving your side? I've seen the results of properly tending a res, it rocks. :)

Douglas
p.s. that sensi seeds info applies to soil, not the way I grow. Thanks :)
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I say your full of shit! DON'T grow hydro and are BULLSHITTING this whole schmeer above!

That applies to ALL methods of growing you HACK!

I bet you don't even have an abnormal sense of taste!

If you actually knew half of what you allude to. You would not have posted this bag of dog shit!
 
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Cyrus420 said:
Dude everything you talk about since you've joined this site has been shit no one understands because it all come from your own personal conjecture with zero evidence. I asked you a shit ton of questions in another thread and you defaulted to just focusing on the fact I called you out on sounding like a snob.

I'd honestly love to know how you achieve zero harshness with no cure at all when you detail nothing about your own processes. You just keep saying "I know so therefore it's right."
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Actually, everything I've talked about on here has been contrary to regular bullshit. Yes, it goes against what the forums say, this is the entire reason I'm here. The general information on cannabis forums grows the same low grade crap you can pick up on any street corner. It sucks.

I learned to grow 15+ years ago, a very clean and decent way to produce decent results. 8 Years ago I came across fire and have spent the time since duplicating those results. The method uses a BALANCED nutrient profile (something most growers don't even understand), a full and cyclic pH swing (methods 90% of the hydro growers don't use), in a maximum healthy transpiration environment (another factor skipped by a good number of growers) and careful attention to optimal feed levels and maturation times for each strain.

The end result is something you've apparently never experienced, clean, soft, smooth and AWESOMELY deliciously potent cannabis, when it's simply been dried. You should be ecstatic that someone is describing higher quality cannabis than you produce, it means you have something to learn and better cannabis to look forward to.

Hell, people used to think the world is flat.

So what you're really asking is, would you please post your methods? Right?

Douglas
 
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Douglas.Curtis said:
Actually, everything I've talked about on here has been contrary to regular bullshit. Yes, it goes against what the forums say, this is the entire reason I'm here. The general information on cannabis forums grows the same low grade crap you can pick up on any street corner. It sucks.

I learned to grow 15+ years ago, a very clean and decent way to produce decent results. 8 Years ago I came across fire and have spent the time since duplicating those results. The method uses a BALANCED nutrient profile (something most growers don't even understand), a full and cyclic pH swing (methods 90% of the hydro growers don't use), in a maximum healthy transpiration environment (another factor skipped by a good number of growers) and careful attention to optimal feed levels and maturation times for each strain.

The end result is something you've apparently never experienced, clean, soft, smooth and AWESOMELY deliciously potent cannabis, when it's simply been dried. You should be ecstatic that someone is describing higher quality cannabis than you produce, it means you have something to learn and better cannabis to look forward to.

Hell, people used to think the world is flat.

So what you're really asking is, would you please post your methods? Right?

Douglas
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Go make a thread explaining the following things so we can sift through your information: Balanced Nutrient profile, full/cyclic Ph swing, maximum healthy transpiration environment, and optimal feed levels (which sounds like nutrient profile but I'm sure you can explain the difference, and what you mean about the maturation times. In addition to this, I want to see some proof for your "sensitivity" and I also want you define what you mean by best weed (not what you think is best what you mean by objectively best) as well as a lab report documenting your herb so we have proof it is as good as you claim it to be.

Also people didn't use to think the world was flat that is a huge misconception even as far back as the Ancient Egyptians understood the world was round.

In short: Please go make a thread detailing why exactly your weed is so much "cleaner and better" rather than hopping into other people's thread and spouting off information without citation. I can't tell you that your weed isn't good but when you claim it to be the best I'm well within my rights to call bullshit unless you can prove it otherwise.
 
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Cyrus420 said:
Go make a thread explaining the following things so we can sift through your information: Balanced Nutrient profile, full/cyclic Ph swing, maximum healthy transpiration environment, and optimal feed levels (which sounds like nutrient profile but I'm sure you can explain the difference, and what you mean about the maturation times.
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I guess I'll have to, you're not aware of the difference between a balanced profile and too much or too little of it?

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In addition to this, I want to see some proof for your "sensitivity" and I also want you define what you mean by best weed (not what you think is best what you mean by objectively best) as well as a lab report documenting your herb so we have proof it is as good as you claim it to be.
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Sure, set up the contest, pick anyone you think is 'sensitive' and I'll match or beat their sensitivity. It can be taste, smell or touch, I don't care. I can literally feel and taste fabric softener from your shirt, from 15 feet away, if you've used 2 dryer sheets in the dryer with it and a full load of clothing. I have no doubts of my sensitivity, been a curse my entire life.

The lab test? Pay for it, I'll have a harvest coming up in about 3 months. *shrug* You have problems with believing my stuff is soft and non-harsh when first dry, I don't. My wife actually laughed when I mentioned you guys apparently have a problem with that statement. :) Anyone who wants to travel to Fairplay, Colorado can come experience it for themselves. I'm not some anonymous closet boy on the internet. I'm willing to throw down, I have nothing to lose and (a slim chance) I'll run into better quality than mine. Totally looking forward to seeing that happen. :)

Maturation time? Yeah, huge misconceptions in the cannabis community about what 'mature' means for harvesting times. Does ripe mean more to you than maturation? They're the same thing.

Here's a writeup I did that will explain part of it.

I understand your skepticism, I've been fighting mis/dis-information regarding cannabis for nearly 10 years now. It's a muddled puddle of shit. Eventually, things will change for the better. Information already flows faster and easier in the legal states, looking forward to 10 years from now.

Maturation (I think it's time)
Is it time to harvest? 5-15% amber is what you're looking for. Harvesting at maximum maturation will give you the highest THC content and largest volume of intact cannabinoids and terpenes. After 15%? You're going to harvest sleepy cannabis, past it's prime, overripe, past peak maturation.

The difference between a perfectly soft and ripe peach and one that's overripe, too soft and with a non-prime flavor anymore. (A peach is a fruit, not a vegetable)

Douglas
 
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Douglas.Curtis said:
I guess I'll have to, you're not aware of the difference between a balanced profile and too much or too little of it?


Sure, set up the contest, pick anyone you think is 'sensitive' and I'll match or beat their sensitivity. It can be taste, smell or touch, I don't care. I can literally feel and taste fabric softener from your shirt, from 15 feet away, if you've used 2 dryer sheets in the dryer with it and a full load of clothing. I have no doubts of my sensitivity, been a curse my entire life.

The lab test? Pay for it, I'll have a harvest coming up in about 3 months. *shrug* You have problems with believing my stuff is soft and non-harsh when first dry, I don't. My wife actually laughed when I mentioned you guys apparently have a problem with that statement. :) Anyone who wants to travel to Fairplay, Colorado can come experience it for themselves. I'm not some anonymous closet boy on the internet. I'm willing to throw down, I have nothing to lose and (a slim chance) I'll run into better quality than mine. Totally looking forward to seeing that happen. :)

Maturation time? Yeah, huge misconceptions in the cannabis community about what 'mature' means for harvesting times. Does ripe mean more to you than maturation? They're the same thing.

Here's a writeup I did that will explain part of it.

I understand your skepticism, I've been fighting mis/dis-information regarding cannabis for nearly 10 years now. It's a muddled puddle of shit. Eventually, things will change for the better. Information already flows faster and easier in the legal states, looking forward to 10 years from now.

Maturation (I think it's time)
Is it time to harvest? 5-15% amber is what you're looking for. Harvesting at maximum maturation will give you the highest THC content and largest volume of intact cannabinoids and terpenes. After 15%? You're going to harvest sleepy cannabis, past it's prime, overripe, past peak maturation.

The difference between a perfectly soft and ripe peach and one that's overripe, too soft and with a non-prime flavor anymore.

Douglas
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Yes please, explain the magic of a balanced nutrient profile to me. Are you going to tell me over feeding is bad? Duh.

And no we can't set up a contest no one on here can be bothered to meet up with your dumbass. You're making bullshit claims with no evidence behind them, how do you know you're sensitive when all you have is your own personal conjecture to work with? You might be but until you can somehow prove it (and proving it wouldn't take place in a contest a doctor can tell you what is up) it's just anecdotal and applies only to you.

Fuck no I'm not paying for your lab results. You get on here and talk a big game about how great and smooth your weed is but yet have ZERO EVIDENCE to prove it. You haven't even posted pictures of your grow or your herb. Your wife can laugh all she want but we're the ones laughing at you acting like billy bad ass on here when you haven't proven shit. You're not willing to put anything on the line because you can't provide me with anything right now you think for someone who wrote a book you'd have a whole backlog of notes, pictures, and other resources to refer to but I ain't seeing any of it any I'm not dropping eight bucks to buy your book with the shitty looking cover and title.

And I knew this bit about maturation but who are you to tell me what to look for?

You say cannabis isn't a vegetable/fruit but then you compare it to a peaches ripeness. I was under the impression one could harvest at several different times to produce subtle differences in their high...or maybe that is bullshit because your sensitivity told you 5-15% amber was best. Using your own analogy what if someone prefers an over ripe peach and then claims it to be the best tasting peach there is...doesn't make it true because you can't define best like that and certainly without some sort of qualification. If you were as sensitive as you claim to be you'd be out using that super power not spouting bull here on RIU.


Basically from where I'm sitting you're another ass hat who has grown for a decade or so and decided your own brand was the best and went out to write a generic ass book about it that won't change anything or reveal anything great.

Come back on here and spout some wisdom when you have published scientific journals "Mr. Sensitive" until then I'm done with your bullshit. Hopefully the other members of this site will see through your sham and realize you're not here to share knowledge or wisdom but to push a fucking book.

How about you share some pictures of your grow or this res you don't change for four months? Give us some details we don't care about your sensitivity, your book, your wife, how long you've been growing...none of that. We want fucking proof and pictures dude and until you provide that you're just another ass spitting shit.
 
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You're rather angry. You realize that the longer a person believes a lie, the stronger their emotional reaction is to the truth? I'm not going to sit here and respond to every nit-picking, angry question you have. You can stop posting small stories of them. :)

I have photos of a 3 month old res, have to dig them up, photos of other stuff as well, scattered on various harddrives around here. Here are a few of dry nugs. Yes, even the purple photo showing full, fat trichomes is of dry cannabis.

Again you're publicly posting your ignorance of the difference between a balanced nutrient profile and how strong a solution is.

It's too bad you can't reach Fairplay, you'll have to wait till someone figures it out in your area. I highly recommend my book. *shrug* It's $7.20 though, tough to pony that much up.

As for posting? I've done nothing but post helpful and informative information from the beginning. In most areas I've pointed out there's a different way, in some areas I've posted the information as to why. You should spend less time being angry and more time being inquisitive, you'll have a much happier and successful life.

Douglas
(p.s. The lighting is bad, even though the trichomes on the purple look clear, they were quite amber. That particular bud was a month in the dark and mostly amber trichomes)
 
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Balanced Nutrient Profile: A specific ratio of elements for a specific type of plant. When in balance, there are no excess elements available, such as too much or too little nitrogen or phosphorous. A nutrient mix which supplies everything a plant requires and does so without excess.

The most commonly used 'balanced' nutrient profiles are those close to the Lucas Formula. I doubt anyone knows what 'perfect' is, but lucas is as close to a 'general' profile as you can get that works decently for all cannabis. Although each strain requires certain changes, you won't grow 'bad' cannabis if you feed the correct strength with this profile.

Now do you see the difference? A balanced nutrient profile has nothing to do with how little or much you're feeding.
 
Cyrus420

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Douglas.Curtis said:
You're rather angry. You realize that the longer a person believes a lie, the stronger their emotional reaction is to the truth? I'm not going to sit here and respond to every nit-picking, angry question you have. You can stop posting small stories of them. :)

I have photos of a 3 month old res, have to dig them up, photos of other stuff as well, scattered on various harddrives around here. Here are a few of dry nugs. Yes, even the purple photo showing full, fat trichomes is of dry cannabis.

Again you're publicly posting your ignorance of the difference between a balanced nutrient profile and how strong a solution is.

It's too bad you can't reach Fairplay, you'll have to wait till someone figures it out in your area. I highly recommend my book. *shrug* It's $7.20 though, tough to pony that much up.

As for posting? I've done nothing but post helpful and informative information from the beginning. In most areas I've pointed out there's a different way, in some areas I've posted the information as to why. You should spend less time being angry and more time being inquisitive, you'll have a much happier and successful life.

Douglas
(p.s. The lighting is bad, even though the trichomes on the purple look clear, they were quite amber. That particular bud was a month in the dark and mostly amber trichomes)
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You're going to avoid my questions because I got angry and said a few cuss words? I am being inquisitive I want you to detail your methods to me and you refuse to do that so until then I can only assume what you're telling me is little more than personal conjecture.

You're intro tgread it was probably deleted because you keep pushing your book like you doing this post. No one on here is interested in buying services or products from other members you need to understand that so pushing your book is fruitless here.

I have a feeling that your book contains information that can be easily found through a simple Google search and the fact that you get on here and act as if you've done research and found something really important that no one else has bothers me.

And you still don't seem to understand the point I'm making about your sensitivity just because the herb you smoke is the best for you doesn't mean that the herb we smoke is necessarily worse than yours. Without a side-by-side lab analysis of your herb versus someone else's then there is no way to tell who's his best so you saying yours is best is subjective and therefore can't be taken as truth.

And as far as me being angry and not inquisitive goes I have been inquisitive this whole time you just need to get over the fact that I cussed at you and answer my God damn questions or detail your methods for other Growers rather than pushing your book or simple information that could be found anywhere on the internet.
 
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You're going to avoid my questions because I got angry and said a few cuss words? I am being inquisitive I want you to detail your message to me and you refuse to do that so until then I can only assume what you're telling me is little more than personal conjecture.
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Good luck with that.

I'm answering questions on here and posting good information. You seem to be in an all fired hurry for me to post it all at once. I just spent 2 months editing the same information, I'll take my time re-typing everything here, thanks. :)

Give my post a 'like' if you agree I've done a great job explaining myself until now. I sure have a LOT of likes from the other posts I've put up.

I'm avoiding your questions because you're asking them in very angry and inappropriate ways and, again, I just spent 2 months editing this information. You're not the "All my questions must be answered to my satisfaction immediately" god of the boards, are you? I would treat you the same way on the street, probably just walk away. :)

Douglas
 
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Thank you for detailing a balanced nutrient profile to me that makes a lot of sense now that you've actually told me what you're trying to get across but it still isn't something unique or discovered by you it's nothing that I couldn't have found by .Googling it.
 
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Douglas.Curtis said:
Good luck with that.

I'm answering questions on here and posting good information. You seem to be in an all fired hurry for me to post it all at once. I just spent 2 months editing the same information, I'll take my time re-typing everything here, thanks. :)

Give my post a 'like' if you agree I've done a great job explaining myself until now. I sure have a LOT of likes from the other posts I've put up.

I'm avoiding your questions because you're asking them in very angry and inappropriate ways and, again, I just spent 2 months editing this information. You're not the "All my questions must be answered to my satisfaction immediately" god of the boards, are you? I would treat you the same way on the street, probably just walk away. :)

Douglas
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I'm not got to the boards but obviously you're not willing to throw down as you say if you're not even going to answer a few simple questions. You just want to speak your peace and walk away that's fine but it doesn't make you right.
 
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Cyrus420 said:
Thank you for detailing a balanced nutrient profile to me that makes a lot of sense now that you've actually told me what you're trying to get across but it still isn't something unique or discovered by you it's nothing that I couldn't have found by .Googling it.
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You're welcome, glad it makes sense.

Google it and show me though, I'd like to see it? And no, it's not something I discovered, it was taught to me by postings from Lucas 15+ years ago. Back before all the good info from cannabisworld and overgrow was blasted apart by disinformationists.

Ever read the Overgrow FAQ 'someone' recovered and posted online? It's FULL of garbage that was contradictory to the best grow information being published at the time on those sites, yet what do we have on the boards today? Lots and LOTS of that incorrect information from the overgrow faq.

Lovely. All that great info, gone, and nothing but garbage info from it spewed all over the forums. Craaazy.

Douglas
 
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You're welcome, glad it makes sense.

Google it and show me though, I'd like to see it? And no, it's not something I discovered, it was taught to me by postings from Lucas 15+ years ago. Back before all the good info from cannabisworld and overgrow was blasted apart by disinformationists.

Ever read the Overgrow FAQ 'someone' recovered and posted online? It's FULL of garbage that was contradictory to the best grow information being published at the time on those sites, yet what do we have on the boards today? Lots and LOTS of that incorrect information from the overgrow faq.

Lovely. All that great info, gone, and nothing but garbage info from it spewed all over the forums. Craaazy.

Douglas
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To be honest with you I generally don't trust most of the information I see online from anyone regardless of who they claim to be. So any popular articles that you may know of I honestly have not read. My growing philosophy is that the plant is one with nature and so I try to emulate the conditions of such. As an organic soil grow where I can see where me and you would have a disconnect.

I just found it personally a little presumptuous of you to come on here and claim that you had the best or that you have special knowledge that we weren't privy to. If my reaction offended you that just has to be on you I can't really change the way I interact with people but I hope you will see that here on this forum there are a multitude of Growers who grow in a million different ways and that each and every way produces different results that are worse or better for them.

I would be more than happy for you to share your methods with us but it simply isn't in the spirit of the community to claim yours is the best. I honestly enjoy a good discourse with someone who I can debate with especially if it's someone who seemingly passionate about it as you are I would just hope that you wouldn't Retreat when things got a little heated.
 
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The overgrow faq is over 15 years old now, you may not be familiar with it but you've read the mis/dis-information in it repeatedly online, in every cannabis forum you've been in. I can assure you of that.

I'm here to point out that cannabis really is not 'one with nature,' at least not as far as extreme quality goes. Nature rarely ever provides conditions that would lead to superior cannabis. Cannabis itself is capable of expressing amazing traits, when allowed to flower in a truly stress free environment.

As for quality comparisons? One only has to read how it's being grown, and look at the photos to see. There are a few growers on here I'd like to try their cannabis, the majority is Ed/Jorge quality though. You can literally see it and read it in the information they're posting about how they grew it. Well, I can anyway and I aim to eventually help straighten that out.

EVERYONE DESERVES AWESOMELY CLEAN CANNABIS! I'm unable to yell that loud enough. lol

UGH, this conversation really needed to take place in my intro thread, now deleted. Pffft! so sorry
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