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I think what it all comes down to...

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
...is that we just can't agree.

There are more than, what, 7 billion humans now? I think the ultimate problem to progress is that we simply can't all agree on what the right thing to do is. I guess that's why we elect people to figure out ways to decide what the right answer is for all of us. But a lot of the time, the problem with that is that those people responsible for deciding what's best also decide they have the power to decide what's best in private, and sometimes they also end up deciding they deserve more than what they legally earn, so they cut themselves a little bit off the top, without the rest of us knowing.. Sometimes corporations get so big they can throw money at these people we trust, and those people will vote in that corporations interest, and not American citizens. Usually that ends up bad for us and good for some greedy fuck whose already hoarding millions of would be meals for starving people.

So yeah... Even on RIU I bet we couldn't agree on the SIMPLEST of things! Like how to end poverty or racism, or how to educated the masses, or how to end homelessness... There are less than a few thousand active members, why would anybody realistically think any organization could handle such matters with insane numbers like +300 million?
 

Hepheastus420

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You know the drill..

Why?
I just said that for the humor.

Really, I agree with you 100%. Ever hear that saying about the crabs in the bucket? If they would let some crabs get out, and think together as a whole, some of them would be set free. But crabs (people) are too greedy and only think they're right. So they pinch the other crab and drag it down. they never progress.

Ok, being honest, my metaphor doesn't make sense if you actually think about it. But you get what I'm saying.
 

Padawanbater2

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I just said that for the humor.

Really, I agree with you 100%. Ever hear that saying about the crabs in the bucket? If they would let some crabs get out, and think together as a whole, some of them would be set free. But crabs (people) are too greedy and only think they're right. So they pinch the other crab and drag it down. they never progress.

Ok, being honest, my metaphor doesn't make sense if you actually think about it. But you get what I'm saying.
Nah, it makes sense to me.. Fuck people, they're stupid. Exactly what I've been feeling lately. Totally legitimate.
 

Geronimo420

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There are too many human (7 billions) without natural predation (polar bear,lion,tiger...etc) we are doom. My suggestion would be that every year at Halloween we'd be aloud to do like in the Halloween movies or you know Texas chainsaw massacre or just plain James Holmes
 

Geronimo420

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Or use some of Anders Behring Breivik gene for In vitro fertilisation (you don't need to let the parents know).
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Heisenberg

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Welcome to the land of Sam's Club, Botox and gasoline
Welcome to the land of the awesome blossom and Vidal Sassoon
It's ok if you wanna do drugs
As long as your someone that Hollywood loves
The government thrives on sex and lies
Every speech of peace is hatred disguised
Chuck E. Cheese and Ronald McDonald
Nutrition starved and our children's role models

In every child's toy box
In every magazine
On every child's drink box
On every TV screen

Life is full of expectations no one cares to meet
Life is just one long commercial they can't sell to me
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I am curious to know by what logic you take our thorniest, most pressing yet intractable problems faced by us as a society ...

... poverty, racism, lack of access to or appreciation for education, inability to allocate resource to need ...

as "the simplest of things". It seems to me that this contains a disregard for the sheer difficulty of opposing some of the less glorious but still fully-ingrained aspects of our human nature. cn
 

tyler.durden

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There are too many human (7 billions) without natural predation (polar bear,lion,tiger...etc) we are doom. My suggestion would be that every year at Halloween we'd be aloud to do like in the Halloween movies or you know Texas chainsaw massacre or just plain James Holmes
[video=youtube;K3vgkDLCt4w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3vgkDLCt4w[/video]
 

Heisenberg

Well-Known Member
I am the lawyer at your funeral
I am the bloody Marxist general
I am the lonely rapist priest
And the autocratic president
I'm the judge and inquisitor
I am the corporate funded senator
I am a distinctive shade of hate
I am American
I am the atom splitting scientist
And the gun toting lunatic
I'm the flag that contradicts
I am the way
I am American
 

BustinScales510

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I think divisive behavior is developmentally part of our psyche too. I read something about it once..some anthropological essay. It said throughout early human evolution when we lived in small groups as hunter gatherers and what not,that there was always an "us versus them" mentality..because you knew the next group over was competing for the same resources. You had to have that ingrained dislike for them so if they snuck over you could beat them with rocks and sticks before they took your shit..tools,food,child bearing women etc :). You can still feel that and see it everywhere today.I remember clicking through the channels on tv a couple weeks ago and the olympics were on..it was some random shit like mens water polo czech repub vs paraguay..and even though I know little about the sport or those countries..you feel that natural impulse to choose one side to like and one to dislike..you feel happy when one team scores and see the others as cheaters and assholes. Thats why the best political tool is to excite the base of whichever party by casting a negative shadow on the opposing party by making them seem.."different" and "not like you".
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I am curious to know by what logic you take our thorniest, most pressing yet intractable problems faced by us as a society ...

... poverty, racism, lack of access to or appreciation for education, inability to allocate resource to need ...

as "the simplest of things". It seems to me that this contains a disregard for the sheer difficulty of opposing some of the less glorious but still fully-ingrained aspects of our human nature. cn
Bumped for Pad's consideration. cn
 

eye exaggerate

Well-Known Member
...is that I haven't got it all figured out just yet

...but I've got one hand in my pocket, and the other one's giving the peace sign 8-)
 

high|hgih

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Well thats because our universe is an organism, and because that organism is in fact, irrational. This is why nothing makes sense and everything is so stupid and pointless ;)
 

dannyboy602

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the population problem will naturally work itself out as the cost of oil becomes too expensive. the dependency will devide rich and poor. ppl will starve unless they can pay. elected leaders are as dependant on petrolium as heroine junkies are. and its not just the leaders but everyone who consumes. if we can't find a very quick alternative to fossill fuels its not gonna be a pretty picture in twenty years. there will become only two classes. the haves and the have nots. in fact i think its inevitable. we have reached peak according to dr. hubbard (actually reached it in the 70's)and are on the downslope of the bell curve. saudia arabia (25% of reserves world wide)is looking offshore for wells. thats tells me they are near or past peak because they're spending money to find what has already been depleted in the ground. and its very expensive to drill offshore. now mitt romney wants to drill in every national park until we ourselves are completely depleted. to make matters worse china and india want a piece of the ever smaller pie and it's just a matter of time before we have another war to assure usa gets what they need first. oil creates war. and we all know what war creates.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I am curious to know by what logic you take our thorniest, most pressing yet intractable problems faced by us as a society ...

... poverty, racism, lack of access to or appreciation for education, inability to allocate resource to need ...

as "the simplest of things". It seems to me that this contains a disregard for the sheer difficulty of opposing some of the less glorious but still fully-ingrained aspects of our human nature. cn
...Pad? cn
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
I am curious to know by what logic you take our thorniest, most pressing yet intractable problems faced by us as a society ...

... poverty, racism, lack of access to or appreciation for education, inability to allocate resource to need ...

as "the simplest of things". It seems to me that this contains a disregard for the sheer difficulty of opposing some of the less glorious but still fully-ingrained aspects of our human nature. cn
Hey sorry this is so late canna, that's not usually my style but I've been getting pretty hammered lately and deep thought is next to impossible in that state of mind!

I think my wording is a little mixed up, rereading it again the point isn't as clear as I thought. I think what I meant was that the things that would lead to solving those types of huge problems, like everybody agreeing that homeless people need help, is what should be simple. Some people feel they don't so that hinders progress.

Again, sorry for the late reply
 
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