i told you obama is a retard...

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NoDrama

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heckler73 said:
Oh...so when Obama signed that NDAA (or whatever it was called), it was not "law"?
Strange...I also remember something about Bush "abusing" the executive order to set up something to the effect of making him "King" of the three branches of gov't.

But, that's one of those weird areas of American politics I've never really understood, so perhaps you are correct.
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ALL bills have to be signed by the president in order for them to become laws, but it's Congress that makes the laws itself.

When the president signs a bill and it becomes a law is not even remotely the same thing as him signing an executive order.

The reason BOOSH got all those executive orders passed as laws? Congress authorized it. But all Executive orders used in that way all expire within a short time so they aren't permanently on the books. This explains why Pres Obama had to resign the Patriot act and the NDAA before they expired.
 
blacksun

blacksun

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UncleBuck said:
oh, barely literate right wingers and your predictions of doom.

you must feel REALLY stupid now that the stock market is at a record high.
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What kind of retard doesn't know that the economy takes eight years for a president's decisions throughout his/her career to truly take effect?

When the economy gets really shitty in three years because obozo's decisions are finally kicking in, I bet the libturds will try to blame it on whatever repub (hopefully!) president is in office.

Calling it now.
 
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ChesusRice

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blacksun said:
What kind of retard doesn't know that the economy takes eight years for a president's decisions throughout his/her career to truly take effect?

When the economy gets really shitty in three years because obozo's decisions are finally kicking in, I bet the libturds will try to blame it on whatever repub (hopefully!) president is in office.

Calling it now.
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So Obama has been president for how long now?
And what has the economy done in that time?

If this is a preview I cant wait for 3 more years
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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ChesusRice said:
So Obama has been president for how long now?
And what has the economy done in that time?

If this is a preview I cant wait for 3 more years
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In a truly free economy, government intervention is the nail in the road.

Government can't "stimulate" the economy or "create jobs" without first stealing the money from a producer, filtering most of it out thru their own slurping at the trough and redistributing the leftover stolen crumbs... just enough to keep the sheep believing that the government is their own private Santa Claus.
 
heckler73

heckler73

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NoDrama said:
ALL bills have to be signed by the president in order for them to become laws, but it's Congress that makes the laws itself.

When the president signs a bill and it becomes a law is not even remotely the same thing as him signing an executive order.

The reason BOOSH got all those executive orders passed as laws? Congress authorized it. But all Executive orders used in that way all expire within a short time so they aren't permanently on the books. This explains why Pres Obama had to resign the Patriot act and the NDAA before they expired.
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After digging a little more, I do see that EOs are subject to "judicial review" and may be struck down in the process. Of course, it's not a guarantee that bad EOs won't be passed...
Also, for all the infamy of Dubya's usage of EOs, he was actually a lightweight. FDR used EOs 3500+ times while Dubya used them < 300 times (which is about average for presidents after Truman).

Interesting, I actually learned something! :lol:
 
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