yeah im still around, my internet was down for awhile. but i have to get out and take some pics, i was out the other day but didnt have my camera. i have cloned all of themn indoors, also collected pollen and crossed some strains too. but they are all in the flower room. i will get some pics when the lights come on. about the males though my WR will not pop its sacs? not sure why all the others popped fine. the ice produced the most and the quickest. but i'll get some pics up.