lio lacidem
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Is that where cubangrower tears matt up for It?
ICE WAX (bubble hash) with Matt Rize
- Thread starter Matt Rize
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tahoe shatter bro
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Yea..Matt comes in trying to justify $200 grams and pretty much ruins the vibe..Cuban calls him out and he gets all salty and leaves the show.
Matt's whole vibe is pretty sketchy and listening to him try to justify $200 grams says alot about the dude.
Matt come in around the 3 hour 10 min mark
Matt's whole vibe is pretty sketchy and listening to him try to justify $200 grams says alot about the dude.
Matt come in around the 3 hour 10 min mark
Joedank
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man i hate going to a party an realizing its invite only ... doh ... oh wait he knew ... bubbleman is pretty chill dude .
he put out "carding" drysift for fullmelt keif like 6-8 years ago... lolz ... he was baiting cuban ...
hyroot
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There's a lot more to it than just being salty. Cuban and Matt used to be friends. Shit went down between them. I'm not at liberty to divulge anything. Cuban asked me not to say anything. Thats why cuban said matt cant get sift from him. My point is there's a lot more going on behind the scenes than just price gouging. .
Matts reason is for poor yields is why the price is so high. It makes sense but I honestly don't believe that all organge flavored strains don't produce good hash yeilds. I've ran quit a few tangie and other orange strains in my day that produce 20% plus returns. It's marketing really. Matt did teach all of us the proper drying technique though. There's no denying that
Joedank
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ummmm no the new tech on drying with freeze dryers IMO is the only way to dry hash ...
hyroot
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Not everyone has 8k to drop on a scientific freeze dryer. I certainly don't. Before you say it doesn't cost that much. Don't forget sales tax, shipping and warranty. That freeze dryer is priced at $6250. You don't want to use the other freeze dryers. They don't work right for hash.
The last 5 years or so everyone has been doing the microplane and sieve tech. Only until recently after the emerald cup fails has the freeze dryer tech taken off. Prior to that only norstar genetics was using freeze dryers.
Joedank
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i like it when you use your noggin to prove my point .. @Dan Kone might agree with me that bubble hash has been "tainted" batch to batch .. i have "farmed" out my hash making to folks with 8-10k worth of equipment.... until the dry seive / rosin tech came into being ... but i agree microplaneing your hash was a good idea ...
hyroot
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I dry my hash in a make shift enclosed cedar drying rack. It works really well. Being that I'm in the desert and it's hot outside and no humidity and I run my ac at 65 degrees. They actually dry completely in 5-7 days and doesn't oxidize. It works just as well as a wine cooler fridge but no power draw and more room for drying.
I thought to use cedar wood applying the same logic of using cedar for wood worm bins. Cedar doesn't break down as fast as other wood. It takes a few years before it begins to rot for bins. It keeps the moisture level perfect for worm bins. Since it's porous it does create more airflow.
MyLittleGrundle
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How do you think Ballsa Wood would work? I said wood would, lol thanks Hyroot.
MJtheIndicator
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I believe Cuban does freeze dry, but he's still sifting after drying. I don't know if we can count a fast sub-zero dry as beneficial to the curing process, but I would like to hear something less than anecdotal which supports its superiority. The convenience Birdseye and Green Giant offer is just that; convenience. The product would have to remain at those low temps from storage to ingestion for it to make sense, but room temp is where most of this keif spends its shelf-life.
tstick
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So, the reason that Matt Rize gives for charging $200+ per gram for his hash is because he is working to get specific orange-flavored hash....and that involves specially-bred plants, grown by specific growers and then processed via industrial freeze drying machines that just aren't available to everyone? All because of an orange flavor/terp profile?
Has anyone tried this legendary hash? I sure would like a dab of it...but it better take me out for dinner and a movie after it gets me high, for that kind of price!
Will there ever be enough people to make that a marketable thing? Or, is that just something for celebrities and rappers like Snoop?!
Has anyone tried this legendary hash? I sure would like a dab of it...but it better take me out for dinner and a movie after it gets me high, for that kind of price!
Will there ever be enough people to make that a marketable thing? Or, is that just something for celebrities and rappers like Snoop?! 
greenghost420
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whoa! just dab out of an orange lol
Cuban lol. He was slinging grams of his sift for $250 in Michigan.. don't give me that bullshit. I have emails from him telling me 180 lpi isn't *fine enough* and that I needed to go up in my mesh counts, and now he sells that same sift for well over $100 a gram himself when it's not even that special and anyone can do it. Don't be fooled by nonsense and lies. Bubbleman erased my tek off ICMag after 1200 replies and 40k views to sell it under the 'bounce tech'.. he still does. He IP Banned myself as well as people from THIS SITE who reposted it for the world to see.. I gave it up free.. i'm only in business because he pulled that. There is so much going on behind the scenes that people do not know and it's really sad, they just erase it and bullshit their way to cup wins.
Why would anyone support another person who helped them? Lol.. it's way cooler to sling grams to people for 200+ per instead of actually teaching them anything. Smfh.
Why would anyone support another person who helped them? Lol.. it's way cooler to sling grams to people for 200+ per instead of actually teaching them anything. Smfh.
Also don't forget.. he actually claimed 99.9% heads on his 3rd place entry on my OLD setup.. he was one of the first 10 people to buy my kit.. so I don't know where all the hate came from.. he literally flipped and just started talking shit for no reason.. shrug. 
He literally bought my setup and went and won an award. Lol. But i'm the dick.
He literally bought my setup and went and won an award. Lol. But i'm the dick.
Equinox911
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Made this with an 8 bag, 5 gallon set this morning.
Started with 6 ounces of trimmed bud from 2015 out door grow.
Loving the ice water HASH!
Started with 6 ounces of trimmed bud from 2015 out door grow.
Loving the ice water HASH!
BLVDog
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My buddy dropped off sum bags to me ,he said his uncle was using them to make keif. i always run bho but want try this but I only have the 220,160,&25 my other buddy said I need the others and don't waste anything until i get them. Any body ever ran just these? Sounds like I'm missing sum important bags.
hyroot
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You definitely want the others. The 190 and 160 catch the trash. The micro plant matter ends up in the 25. So you definitely want all 8 bags. It makes a huge difference in quality
BobCajun
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Remarkably little terps in resin heads, from that test result graph. I wonder where they come from with BHO, which is usually around 10-15%. Must be drawing it out of the vegetable matter. Nice pic of the product though. So pure heads are about 3/4 THCA. The rest must be cellulose trich casings. Needless to say, smoking cellulose trich head casings isn't that great, but I guess it beats smoking crude bud. Think I'd rather squish the rosin out, but I guess it's good to smoke different forms of Cannabis extracts for variety.