ICE WAX (bubble hash) with Matt Rize

got my bags today plan on doing a run. might only do the 220, 190 120 90 73 45. i do have all eight but i dont have over the reccomend amount for the 1gal whih is around 2 ounces. got a grater/planer what ever you want to call it. all i need to get is new buckets and a sprayer. plan on stopping at home depot soon. here is what i plan on doing

1: fill bucket with cold water and let sit in freezer for about 15 mins
2:add fresh frozen trim/popcorn to water and let sit for 15 minuets also add ice
3:take out and agitate for about 20 25 mins with spoon
4:let sit in freezer for 15-20 mins.
5:take out strain collect press



now after pressing water out do i freee it and then grate it or let it dry then freeze it then grate it? im kinda lost on that part. if it comes to it i wont grate it this time. since im doing another nbubble run in a week.

Hi All,
Just ran my first real batch of trim through the HVY 5 gallon 8 bag set of Ice Water Extract bags. Wow! After I microplaned the frozen chunk of 73 micron I could not believe the size of the pile on the plate!

Grades from each bag on first gentle mixing run:







73 Micron collection in the bag:










Microplaned and jarred:














Smells like the buds but stronger and cleaner!!!!!



Cheers,
Mo

How long do you dry the patty for? After taking it out of the bubble bags and on to the screen and pat dry with paper towel. Do you dry for 6 hrs and then through it into the freezer for and extra 3hrs and then grate and dry? I'm curious what your guys technique is for this. I get lost on this part, I want to do it the right way. I am currently on this step where the fresh patty is drying on the screen, what next? freezer, air dry for few hours. Thnx I appreciate everyones input. Sorry for all the weird questions I am a new bee to this.

Link to page with drying instructions - all info can be found at the start of this thread:

https://www.rollitup.org/concentrates-extracts/367111-ice-wax-bubble-hash-matt-4.html#post4874774

Thnx for info Mohican, I read that already it was posted in 2010 and just wanted an update to the drying/freeze time after you take the patties out of the bubble bags and place on the scrren and paper towel. Thnx for the link though. I recently air dried the patties for 12hrs and will stick it in freezer for another hour. I will take it out and grate it onto the non-stick pan and let it dry for 12hrs more. Let's see what happens. Is this right Matt? Wish me luck, hopefully I did not mess up a batch.

Matt Rize said:

Thanks for following along. This part is going to be pictures instead of video.

To allow my wet hash to dry:
1) I lay it out as-is overnight, sometimes 24 hours if it is cold out.
2) I grate it to a sand texture with my micro-plane, used ONLY for this purpose. Consider this a disposable tool that needs to be replaced if you are a big hash maker. They can't be sharpened like knives/scissors.
3) I lay this wet sandy bubble hash out on a baking sheet used ONLY for this purpose. I use a non-stick, so no metal for the next step.
4) I let it slowly dry, covered with a silk screen, and occasionally 'cut' it up with a card to let it dry from all sides.
5) As soon as it is dry it goes into my hash curing jar.
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How do you know the hash is ready for curing? I stuck a nice blond ball in a glass jar thinking it was ready to go and when I opened the jar 3-4 days later, pewwww the smell was putrid like it had gone bad ... (I smoked some and smokes fine anyway, I think the smell vanished as well...)

fresh runs in the last week and a half:

sour kush diesel pheno 73 (diesel 1, last of the trim. there will be a small bud run of each strain however.)

tahoe OG kush 73 (there was more but I only put the highest grade dabbable in the jars )

90:

blackberrykush 73 micron on top 90 on bottom:




thanks again matt, you're method kicks ass. I just keep on refining it and refining it and man it just keeps making me happier and happier


lol jar fail!!! noticed a few tiny contaminants in the last 3 pics jars, oh well I"ll just be careful not to touch em until I finish all that hash . that's what stress will do to ya, make ya slack on little shit that matters like forgetting to put the jar face down after you clean it haha....peace.

i have given up on the microplane.....i am now using a coffee grinder when the iwe is still damp...
it's way less work and comes out the same....

I use a plastic card and carefully shave it off of the main pattie. it works really well with practice, I"m sure a microplane is faster but you gotta know the /exact/ technique.... I got the card method down pretty well and I'm willing to spend the time doing it


coffee grinder seems rough to me honestly, because we're trying to not break trichome heads open.

poplars said:

I use a plastic card and carefully shave it off of the main pattie. it works really well with practice, I"m sure a microplane is faster but you gotta know the /exact/ technique.... I got the card method down pretty well and I'm willing to spend the time doing it


coffee grinder seems rough to me honestly, because we're trying to not break trichome heads open.

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i got a microplane just just for making hash...it was awful..... hash would get all gummy so i had to keep putting it in the freezer...took hours to do each run...
...also why should i try not to break the tric heads open?

SenorBrownWater said:

i got a microplane just just for making hash...it was awful..... hash would get all gummy so i had to keep putting it in the freezer...took hours to do each run...
...also why should i try not to break the tric heads open?

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makes the hash consistency better.


yeah there must be some trick to the microplaning I don't understand that's basically what happened to me as well. maybe it has to be drier??? it's hella hard to tell this is one of those things you can only tell in person or with very percise instruyctions.

Damn poplars!! These last few pages you've been posting some fire dabable iwe!! How are you getting that oily?? I must know!I'm trimming 3 sugar filled Cheese Quakes and 3 Power Kush on Monday and ready to get my fresh frozen iwe on!!


Thanks!! This has got me pumped on dialing my game in fully this go!!

Endur0xX said:

How do you know the hash is ready for curing? I stuck a nice blond ball in a glass jar thinking it was ready to go and when I opened the jar 3-4 days later, pewwww the smell was putrid like it had gone bad ... (I smoked some and smokes fine anyway, I think the smell vanished as well...)

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I smoke it in my three hole bowl and listen for sizzles (water).

erocoe420 said:

I'm in a wheelchair and do wheelies when I dab. (scert, scert).

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Before I go and delete your offtopic trolling I'll ask you to re-post whatever questions you asked. And thank you to everyone who answer questions for me, because after all this is a very common sense straight forward physical process that we are doing.

Here are some nuggets:

There is no magic.

My "secret" is using really good material from seasoned/dialed organic farmers like Subcool and myself. That is why my shiz is next level, the genetics/farmer grew better trichomes. My very best IWE has been in no order: Sub's garden, my garden, and a friend of a friend with real life pro status.

I only use ORGANIC trim, or very very very well grown chem. If you use chem material by some regular grower the ice wax will taste and burn chemy.

If you are not going to fully climate control a room for drying then your IWE will retain a little water and not be perfect.`Its costs money to do shit right.

Enjoy some time outside, I know I am.
[video=youtube;zrhjrgKGmb4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrhjrgKGmb4[/video]

trichmasta said:

Damn poplars!! These last few pages you've been posting some fire dabable iwe!! How are you getting that oily?? I must know!I'm trimming 3 sugar filled Cheese Quakes and 3 Power Kush on Monday and ready to get my fresh frozen iwe on!!


Thanks!! This has got me pumped on dialing my game in fully this go!!

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I pretty much follow matt's method to a T... as well as a 100% organic garden no pesticides, climate controlled drying, etc. it all matters.

Well Matt, I am in a wheelchair and do smoke dabs while doing wheelies, It is a talent I've had for a while being born with Spina Bifida. If I was trolling or if I trolled I apologize. Your thread is very informational and I respect every aspect of it. Since watching you and subcool videos and reading threads you guys changed the way I grow which is organic and also you changed my hash making methods which is more cleaner. I thank everyone who has been answering questions so far as well.

Matt- Subcool said at School of Dank that you sometimes processes your hash thru bags a second time. I've read this whole topic and don't recall you describing how to do a second wash. Would you mind discussing the process? I assume you don't put it back in the washing machine, for example.

I've been playing around with taking the dry sift from my Tumble Now and running it thru bags to refine it, so I'm particularly interested in your technique for a second wash. I get better yield using my mini-washer (so far), but the Tumble Now is great when I want to run buds and/or don't have ice on hand. Also, I find it easier to run the Tumble Now dry sift thru bags rather than carding it by hand.

My process right now is to take the dry sift and dump it in ice water in the 220 bag. I let it sit for about a half hour, give it a short stir, and then process as normal using a spray can, etc. Is that basically how you are doing a second wash?

Thanks!

I dont do second washes anymore. Its just not an efficient use of my time and homemade ice.

Hey Matt, with your fresh frozen material, do you let it dry for 24 hours? Then freeze and process? Gonna do a phatty run next week and want to achieve the best extract possible...

It smells and taste great, nice and sticky. Bubble Magic Machine, 25 micron bag. Thnx Matt Rize and everyone on this thread for all the pointers. Enjoy