ICURBYOUs WhiteWidow CFL dresser growbox

great looking grow...

Just finished reading your journal, Great job!

Days since ground-break: 26 days
Number of plants: 2
Lights: (5)26w, (2)23w CFL
Lumens: 1600 (x7 = 11,200)
Light Cycle: 18/6
Temps: 77ºF
Nutes: On Hold.

Hey guys.. Not sure if Ive mentioned it in here much but I had to start another thread elsewhere about a plant problem. Basically my plants were totally under OR overwatered... I couldnt figure out which... And heres how that shitty tale goes:

Basically I heard from a lot of people that I should water every 3-4 days. I read in a ton of places that people water until it comes from the drain holes, and they only do that every 3-4 days.... I decided I should be doing that.

Wrong answer.. This is a classic case of "If its not broken, dont fix it". My plants were fine on my watering cycle... Changing it from daily to waiting days, was causing my dirt to completely dry out... I made the post on plant probs, and people were automatic to call it OVERwatering.. So of course I didnt give them a lot of water.

Well, last night I did a thorough watering. You arent suppose to let the water just leak from one drain hole.. I guess you want it to drain from ALL drainholes... So, I poured a shit-ton of water through them. I made sure EVERY drainhole was leaking.

This morning Charlotte was starting to help herself stand up rather than just droop her leaves... I must admit, I lost a little bit of growth due to this issue. I also havent fed nutes.. so, either way, she is feeling a little better and though people claim I shouldnt have to water for days, Id have to say my dirt IS drying out now.

Funny because just the other day one of the visitors to this thread told me what to do to keep my dirt from drying out and I didnt have a problem with that then, but now it's clear I do. Thanks for jinxing me buddy!! lol

So, today I will let them sleep from 11am-5pm as usual.. But when they wake up, I will likely thoroughly water them again because to be honest, I think they need it.

So.. anywho.. Here they are.

I have a ton to do in preparation of the flowering season.

I am going to build the most of my filter today.. My econolight should be delivered next friday.. I got a bake-a-round for a cooltube on ebay and that hopefully will be sent soon.

So anyways.. I hope charlotte comes back hard.

Charlotte (on left) lookin droopy


She got way droopier than that yesterday

So I watered a lot and she seemed to be coming back a little this morning


Dry dead roots


New root development

I am glad you got everything figured out! I bet in a week they 2x the size.

Thanks to Rictor Asher187. Hopefully I can get this back on track so I can start doing better journal entries like I used to. Right now is kind of a time of trials and errors with the watering.

u should try hydro next time around

why should i do that

just alot easier then soil i think...
just check on the ph and nute levels every week or so...
simply get it going and make sure u follow the feeding schedule/ ph water and there's no way u can mess up...

how is it easier?

soil + plants + ph= success

hydro + pumps + timers + ppm + unmovable plants + reservoir= easier than soil?

not being rude, just seems like soil has less things that can go wrong.

out of curiosity icurbyou do u have some sort of drainage set up on ure pots i no u have a hole in the bottom but do u have soil all the way through the pot? i use clay pebbles, improves drainage and aeration maybe it would be an idea to help those roots get some air and be able to drain easier. who said growing was easy ??? lol

hey Curb awesome grow u got going man wanted to subscribe!! i see a couple of us started some cfl setups this fall(you/me/dirt and a few others). As far as the droopyness it might be overnuted with nitrogen. First time i watered mine with Schultz's 10-15-10 at 1/4 strength and it got really droopy and is taking its time to perk up now. I am pretty sure it was all the N i gave it that made em droppy caus in a month of using just water they never stayed droopy for more than a day. Im just watering with pure water my next few feedings and then start back up at 1/4 strength. Hey maybe checkout my journal you can see the plant im talking about. Anyway good luck and great job so far +rep!!!

I fed my plants nutes twice.. at half strength about 2 weeks ago was the last time. They've been on hold for awhile. They have been on just water.

Days since ground-break: 27 days
Number of plants: 2
Lights: (5)26w, (2)23w CFL
Lumens: 1600 (x7 = 11,200)
Light Cycle: 18/6
Temps: 77ºF
Nutes: On Hold.


Update: plants still look like shit. Still can't figure out the problem.

Gardening not fun anymore.

This might sounds crazy but goto your local nursery and get some Mycorrhizal Fungi, it helps promote root growth and loosens up soil giving your plants air.

they still look a lot better than mine did when i had my problem, bro. how many days since you have watered? its amazing if you let them sit for 5 days then water they come alive.

Days since ground-break: 28 days
Number of plants: 2
Lights: (5)26w, (2)23w CFL
Lumens: 1600 (x7 = 11,200)
Light Cycle: 18/6
Temps: 80ºF
Nutes: On Hold.

Well guys, it's been slow in the whole "Updating Journal" department. I was having a watering issue and there wasn't much progess to update on. I lost probably a week's worth of growth due to my plants insane slow-down of production.

I think I might be back on track but only time will tell. I'll tell you what, I feel bad for Scrooge.. Now I know what it's like to have your plant failing and you dont know what to do. It fucking sucks... and during the precious time you could be getting growth, you wind up having a growth-halt... makes you not even want to play anymore! lol

So, today is Monday and the plants are looking a little better. #3 is pointing it's leaves at the sky a little bit again, and it has a ton of side growth.
Charlotte is looking less sad and is having some O.K. side growth.

My HPS is due to get here via UPS delivery on Friday. The cooltube lady said she would send it out today, so I hope that gets here within a reasonable amount of time.
We have this big Halloween party we are putting on on Friday night. So, if I can maybe get the supplies all ready on Saturday and then install them on Sunday that would be spectacular. Then I could drop into 12/12 within a week.

I really want to transplant into 3 gal containers before I drop into 12/12... But, I cant do that while I am taking up space with the large fan. So here is my idea that ive been mowing over:

Im having a hard time moving the plants and shit because they will bump the timers and then I have to take the plants back out of the box and get in there and get the timers set up again. Its a fucking pain. So, when I get the supplies for the cooltube and everything, then I can ditch the huge fan (Which is mainly used to cool the plants) and then I could rig up that small one from before.. Thus creating more space, and I could put the fucking timers somewhere else, and have the space for two 3gal pots.

Whatchya think?

Transplant before flower? I mean, last time I transplanted, my growth didn't slow down at all.

Heres the ladies. Thanks everyone for your support!

Oh and to scrooges question:
Pic taken: 11:40pm, Oct 26
Last watered: October 25th 6pm
Time passed since last watering: 30 hours

It is looking good, if you can get rid of the big fan and replace it with a small one, do it as long as your temps stay down. (My 3rd plant just showed female BTW)

Yeah, of course temps are top priority. I think with a cooltube, it should keep my box around 80. Then the fan will just push some air and leaves around.

I heard your plant showed female. That's so righteous bro. I feel way behind all you guys now! Im not going to know gender for like 2 weeks from now at least!

Glad to see they perked back up again

nice to see your babies getting happier...did you figure the whole thing out, was it over watering or too much Nitrogen? Im in the same spot as you lol