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medicalMonster

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That's the movie full metal jacket. It's good. But wrong thread lol.

Unless your saying Asian in general is garbage. I don't get it. Nor is it clever being racist.
 

Danielson999

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Lol 1k Euro. You just need seed and soil lolllll.

If you want to over spend on uniTs from the US solarstorm seem to be the biggest rip off. I'm growing massive plants with my 160 US dollar pos. Just look for pics of plants grown only with a mars hydro led. Massive Crystal covered goodness. Most people repping apache kind or any of that are reps Nd guys who over spent and because their plant grows..... They think it's the shit and call everything else crap.

Theirs no argument. Google mars hydro harvest. That's it. Then ask why pay 1k more because US workers cost more. Lollll.
I don't think anybody is saying you can't grow fat buds with a Mars Hydro Led. I think what people are saying is that they use cheap components/drivers that typically do not last long. You're right though, there are plenty of companies who exaggerate or straight up lie to people and sell products that are 2 or 3 times what they are worth. From what I've seen, there are several companies producing cob lighting systems for very reasonable prices ($175+). These systems use much better components and will usually last much longer than typical cheap lights.

In the end, all that matters is how many photons are reaching your plants.

Everybody has their own way of justifying what they spend on things. If you're happy with a Mars Hydro, good for you. Not everybody is satisfied with using cheaper equipment which is why they feel good about investing more money into it.
 

REALSTYLES

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If your going to quote and shit on me firstly show me a plant pic that clearly shows the thousand dollar US difference.

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If Mars is so good why did I get banned from 420mag for stating that they didn't fix my light? They sent me diodes and I didn't have a powerful soldering iron and why should I have to fix it when it's under warranty. Expect failure in 15 months if not sooner and as for lights I use Cree CXB3590s. I forgot to say I made them and here's a pic of my light next to a Mars II 1600 and a 900 and my light is only 413w it's a CXA3590. Mars is loud and throws off heat and you can't even hear my lights

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medicalMonster

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nobody cares that's why. Your insignificant. 420 magazine is a monster to you. Your a drop in the bucket they couldn't care less about. that's why?

LOLLL ITS A HUGE MILLION DOLLAR COMPANY

Christ... like.. you walk into a store, buy a stick. Say the stick is shit. Go to good fellow. (BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY) and even bother knocking on the door. BAHAHAHAHAHA

Nice sick plants? Learn to grow
 

medicalMonster

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What I'm saying is theirs no argument for solarstorm or apachee. Those are the biggest rip offs ever. Because an American worker is more costly to pay. Because they are higher educated, trained, but the parts they use are chinese. 100% and I buy USA when i want my shit to last. period. But in 2016 and electronics. Hmm.

Its robots making them. The only human part is maybe. Maybe putting on the final tabs and stickers. But probably not. Its all automated. Using the same components.

Like danielson is saying but hes able to talk like a human being where as I have a real problem being a dick.

I also bought this COB which Ive really done the homework on. their new to my amazon at least. I find no reviews. no real logs. So im pro cheap led and preaching shit. Actually. I should shut up.
 

REALSTYLES

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nobody cares that's why. Your insignificant. 420 magazine is a monster to you. Your a drop in the bucket they couldn't care less about. that's why?

LOLLL ITS A HUGE MILLION DOLLAR COMPANY

Christ... like.. you walk into a store, buy a stick. Say the stick is shit. Go to good fellow. (BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY) and even bother knocking on the door. BAHAHAHAHAHA

Nice sick plants? Learn to grow
hahahaha that's the work of Mars and here's a pic of plants grown under REAL leds

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You don't even know who I am hahahahaha Mars are training wheel lights in my book hahahahaha
 

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medicalMonster

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You paid 1.5k extra to have bud that buddy... looks like garbage... Taken with a 2 dollar kodak? What kind of hillbilly has a camera like that.

Thats not a scrog, or the person who did it doesnt get the concept, but nice colas.

2. Thats some nice fluff to the right of some normal looking bud to me.. Heres some PPP we get off the STREET where Im from. ppp.JPG

3. Theirs no argument on how much you paid vs what you get. You overpaid by 50% min.
 

David Pasta

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Best Bud, read the whole thread.Below this panel Grow max: 0.3 g / watt.Why do you read this thread and then giving questions?
 

Best Bud

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Best Bud, read the whole thread.Below this panel Grow max: 0.3 g / watt.Why do you read this thread and then giving questions?
I read about 15 pages in this thread, but I don't have the time to read through 408 of them. And I still haven't found information about good grow lights that can be shipped to and from Europe which is what I was originally interested in and still am. Thanks for your input on that light though, but could you maybe recommend to me one that produces something closer to 1g / watt?
 

PSUAGRO.

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I read about 15 pages in this thread, but I don't have the time to read through 408 of them. And I still haven't found information about good grow lights that can be shipped to and from Europe which is what I was originally interested in and still am. Thanks for your input on that light though, but could you maybe recommend to me one that produces something closer to 1g / watt?
In Europe:

http://www.spectradesignlab.com/spectra-cob4-system.html <<< I would pick this or a single spectra cob9 for a 4x4, RIU member discount given

http://www.plantphotonics.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=31&osCsid=jr4onrg1r1rgqf26l71hlamlt0

http://www.valoya.com/products

https://www.heliospectra.com/led_grow_light_products

http://sanlight.info/DE/Produkte/Produktdetails-S-P

http://www.leoledgrow.eu/en/shop/ispectrum-led-84w.html

DIY will get you the best bang for your Euro, very easy to do with cobs and this forum's info

I can't recommend Hans panels anymore until he updates those cree xbd


good luck
 
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Best Bud

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In Europe:

http://www.spectradesignlab.com/spectra-cob4-system.html <<< I would pick this or a single spectra cob9 for a 4x4, RIU member discount given

http://www.plantphotonics.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=31&osCsid=jr4onrg1r1rgqf26l71hlamlt0

http://www.valoya.com/products

https://www.heliospectra.com/led_grow_light_products

http://sanlight.info/DE/Produkte/Produktdetails-S-P

http://www.leoledgrow.eu/en/shop/ispectrum-led-84w.html

DIY will get you the best bang for your Euro, very easy to do with cobs and this forum's info

I can't recommend Hans panels anymore until he updates those cree xbd


good luck
Cheers Psuagro, those Spectra lights look great!

What bothers me a bit is that I can't find any reviews on the web, but that might be because I can't read Italian.
Do you have experience with these lights yourself or have you heard good things about them?
Also, do these lights cover the light spectrum? On the pictures it looks as if they only emit white light.
I might be misinformed about this, but from what I've been told before the light is supposed to be blueish for vegging
and reddish for flowering.

Anyway, thanks heaps for your suggestions and I hope you can help me out with these follow-up questions!

P.S: How do I like your post? I can't seem to find the button
 

REALSTYLES

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@medicalMonster you need to just not post in here because you are no help here. I feel really bad for you talking shit too people for no reason. Here's what I think of Mars lights


You are clueless about me. I make now leds because of Mars failure and have shown many members how to make them as well. Lets see more pics

Mars sucks this is the 1200 after 15months

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Best Bud

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Your retarded. Is it because your European? No wonder Isis hit.

Go buy a fucking led and grow or admit your just looking to shoot the shit.

Tax this and that. Pay it you bum. Like us north Americans. Asking dumb ass questions. How do I get led in Europe. gee. I think they grow in Europe close by.

.3 g pw all this bs by the time your done choosing a light Isis will have taken your house.

Go on eBay click buy kind led and grow. Avoiding taxes etc ask Mexico. Etc. Were 1st world here. We pay taxes and respect our government.

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You seem incredibly misinformed and that certainly does not go well in hand with your arrogance.

In my country taxes are included with every purchase and have to be advertised, so I certainly do not avoid paying taxes.
How do you think that would even work? I'm not sure you understand the very basics of how states operate (they finance themselves through taxation btw., even the European ones), and I won't even comment on your grasp of the English language itself; it's tenuous at best though. People like you are the reason that Americans have such a bad image over here.
 
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