Airwalker16
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Ya they're like $5 too!Thanks a million.
Ya they're like $5 too!Thanks a million.
If your looking for a inexpensive solution for average led Mars hydro is ok. I used them for vegging and plants did fair. Soon enough my Amare's will be in and things should settle down. Really hope they perform like I hoped. After this thread who knows, maybe I'd be better with the flashlights I used last growRight on. Thanks for the info guys. Ill stay away from these guys then. My gut was telling me no also... just needed a little comfermation from u guys haha.
Thanks agin
https://www.rollitup.org/t/got-my-ge-brightstiks.896869/I know this might sound stupid but has anyone used regular screw in LED bulbs like how so many use cfl's? I see so many cfl grows and always wondered if the temperature is correct and there are so many different spectrums available why people don't have them hanging all over their rooms.
Your obviously happy with your over priced Plc light so go stir shit somewhere else. I want I want get off your ass and email someone with the exact info you so desperately NEED. While your at it find the recommended torque on the panels screws. I'm trying to figure your reasoning for all the bs. Maybe you can't afford the light but really want one. Maybe you know it's better but bought a less efficient light somewhere else and now your butt hurt. Talking here is like punching yourself in the dick. It's only fun for the first..... Never
so let me think... your complaining about me stirring the shit, when all I asked was what the efficiency is of the amare, and yet YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE ONE and haven't verified for yourself how well it grows ?If your looking for a inexpensive solution for average led Mars hydro is ok. I used them for vegging and plants did fair. Soon enough my Amare's will be in and things should settle down. Really hope they perform like I hoped. After this thread who knows, maybe I'd be better with the flashlights I used last grow
Which flaw did you point out with the Amare? People do seem to praise them like the golden God of lights... I just don't buy it ....so let me think... your complaining about me stirring the shit, when all I asked was what the efficiency is of the amare, and yet YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE ONE and haven't verified for yourself how well it grows ?
and then you think a Mars led unit is not a bad unit but you sent it back ? Ask @REALSTYLES what
he really thinks about a mars hydro.
and then you are asking about CFLs and screw in e27 leds?
Did you know its ok to say I don't know instead of bitching at somebody which pointed out one potential weakness of the amare. A basic stat that the company doesn't want to publish ?
There are people on this forum with a lot of experience and knowledge instead of being all high and mighty you might want to tap that knowledge instead of whining cause you think you have a big dick.
carefull about wording. I said "potential weakness".Which flaw did you point out with the Amare? People do seem to praise them like the golden God of lights... I just don't buy it ....
Sure the diodes around the cob is a sick design but that and a 12" reptile bulb that will be half as powerful and efficient in less than a year, isn't worth an extra $700 in parts cost if you diy'd it. Same with Apache, although the apache are pretty cool
For a new grower who is using a small tent or closet I don't think there is a problem using Mars hydros as an alternative to a hps. I did veg with them and my final yield was rather well. No they aren't great but again not everyone can afford top quality/cost units.so let me think... your complaining about me stirring the shit, when all I asked was what the efficiency is of the amare, and yet YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE ONE and haven't verified for yourself how well it grows ?
and then you think a Mars led unit is not a bad unit but you sent it back ? Ask @REALSTYLES what
he really thinks about a mars hydro.
and then you are asking about CFLs and screw in e27 leds?
Did you know its ok to say I don't know instead of bitching at somebody which pointed out one potential weakness of the amare. A basic stat that the company doesn't want to publish ?
There are people on this forum with a lot of experience and knowledge instead of being all high and mighty you might want to tap that knowledge instead of whining cause you think you have a big dick.
I never slammed amare and I'm not associated with any light company or anybody for that matter that posts on this forum. you ought to reread my posts in this thread. Thats your own fear and ignorance, that makes you so defensive of your purchase decision.It's clear that Amare is a good quality light and should for no reason be slammed negatively like you and your man have been doing.
another ad hominem kachiga.....I have only stated that people are making boisterous claims that aren't backed up with data. I know the diode sets and their outputs....it is not worth top dollar, and the promoting of such is, disconcerning, in the least. Only thing I have ever said.Yeah, only real person I saw hating was Abiqua. He was right to ask that questions, I for one did learn something new.
But think we getting excited and off topic That ppf/w comes from the sphere testing right? Do you know any other companies that use cobs that have done the testing? I like to see their results vs the leds that did. Since you can't use lux meter on the leds.
I claimed I got a better deal. I also claimed the warranty was better and victor seemed like a real stand up guy who I would love to continue to support.What claims are people making?
I think your prices may be a bit off as in fairly sure gg gives a fairly decent discount to Riu ppl. May be wrong but I think it ends up putting them just over half the price of the amare. Cheaper per watt for sure though.Oh here we go again.... One who knows everything... Oh just in case you didn't see it here is a re post.
Here's a comparison on the price per watt.
AMARE SE450UVB: MSRP$1145 @450w = $2.54/w (actual ~500w) = $2.29/w
A51: MSRP$495 @110w = $4.50/w
Go Green: MSRP@$799 @300w = $2.66
PLC: MSRP$799 @300w = $266/w
Like I said take your ball and go home... I know PET and you tried that same BULLYING tactics on him. So I am a spammer because I like a product? Read the title of the journal. I have nothing against the DIY crowded I applaud them for the innovation. Many individuals don't have those skills to do such a thing, or have the time. Maybe they just want a product off the shelf that works. When I want a hamburger I can get it four ways... Go get a cow raise it then butcher it then grind up the meat for a burger. I could go to a butcher and by a piece of meat and grind it up and make a burger. I could go to the store and buy the ground meat and make a burger. Last but not least. I can drive up to the local hamburger joint and BUY me a burger just the way I want it.... I chose the latter. Oh and as for the best medicine I have to turn patients away because of the quality of medicine we produce.
Grown Under a AMARE SE-220 ...
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I get that bud, maybe I missed something more in later posts just the way you came off was pretty rough. I understand what you wanted and thank you for that it did help me learn more.another ad hominem kachiga.....I have only stated that people are making boisterous claims that aren't backed up with data. I know the diode sets and their outputs....it is not worth top dollar, and the promoting of such is, disconcerning, in the least. Only thing I have ever said.
i live for radiometrics not photometrics
It's going off manufacture suggest retail. So this is what they all retail for with no coupons. I have seen coupons from a aware,gogreen and plc. Would have to give all new numbers to include every ones discounts.I think your prices may be a bit off as in fairly sure gg gives a fairly decent discount to Riu ppl. May be wrong but I think it ends up putting them just over half the price of the amare. Cheaper per watt for sure though.
Not knocking on amare, hybrid has been doing some great work with them. Still a little steep for my taste. You also forgot the a51 w90s. 90 watts for $200. So 450 watts for $1000. Which also puts them cheaper per watt than the amare. I would bet on lower efficiency in that one though.
Let them throw a tantrum. If they want to put a cx300 against an amare in a sphere...I will supply the cx300. There are no mistakes and biases in a sphere, nor will a lack of education and understanding hold back the results like it does though human relaying it as we have seen here.I think your prices may be a bit off as in fairly sure gg gives a fairly decent discount to Riu ppl. May be wrong but I think it ends up putting them just over half the price of the amare. Cheaper per watt for sure though.
Not knocking on amare, hybrid has been doing some great work with them. Still a little steep for my taste. You also forgot the a51 w90s. 90 watts for $200. So 450 watts for $1000. Which also puts them cheaper per watt than the amare. I would bet on lower efficiency in that one though.