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oddlifter

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Is it reasonable to expect 1lb dried from 2x A51 SGS-160 with 4 plants in a hydroponic SCRoG? If not, what if an extra Kessil 350 was added?

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jcmjrt

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oddlifter said:
Is it reasonable to expect 1lb dried from 2x A51 SGS-160 with 4 plants in a hydroponic SCRoG? If not, what if an extra Kessil 350 was added?

thanks
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It's not easy to get more than a gram per watt. I do like and use Kessils myself but you'd still have do better than a gram/watt to get a lb even with the Kessil. If you are an experienced and excellent grower and transition easily to LED lighting....maybe...
 
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danielJackson said:
Hello everyone,

I am curious to know what panels around have their LEDs more spread out, like the Hans Panel. It seems these would be ideal for surround a Tree. I was thinking maybe 5 panels for a 3 ft tree? Thank you
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Dude, 3 panels in the right tent/grow area would be great for a three footer. One on top, two aimed for the sides and then just rotate your plant every few days. 5's nice and Hans will love ya for buying them but I think 3 will get ya by. Good Luck.
 
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Highocaine

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oddlifter said:
Is it reasonable to expect 1lb dried from 2x A51 SGS-160 with 4 plants in a hydroponic SCRoG? If not, what if an extra Kessil 350 was added?

thanks
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The A51 "upgrade" (not out yet) pull 175W from the wall.. 350W.. That makes 1.3 gpw.. It could be done but I wouldn't really expect it, unless you know your shit. If the Kessil was red/deep red, that would help.
 
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The new A51 should be ready by October sometime, and will be 175w.

With the current 155w version, it is possible to get 8oz per each light, but you really need to have your setup dialed in, with very high yielding strains.

4-6oz is more realistic for an average decent grow, per light.
 
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  • Dude, 3 panels in the right tent/grow area would be great for a three footer. One on top, two aimed for the sides and then just rotate your plant every few days. 5's nice and Hans will love ya for buying them but I think 3 will get ya by. Good Luck.​
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Sweet thanks, maybe I can go bigger with the plants then! I have been reading the threads about growing big plants, mostly under HID, and they tend to surround the plants with light as much as possible for the larger plants. I was trying to replicate this. I love the XOX grows (plants are O's bulbs are X's).

I've been looking at the DIY solderless panels and that seems pretty sweet too for something like this.
 
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tortie

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Hello everyone! What do you guys recommend for a one-plant closet grow? (about 1.5x1.5). Preferably price would be under $1000.

Edit: cabinet is 8 feet in height.
 
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tortie said:
Hello everyone! What do you guys recommend for a one-plant closet grow? (about 1.5x1.5). Preferably price would be under $1000.
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1.5 x1.5 is small enough that you could get away with lots of different lights. $1000 is a very aggressive budget for that space, but I like your style. :D

If you want to maximize your yield, and potentially have a light you could expand with I'd recommend using an Area 51 panel the SGS-160 or an Apache light, and hanging it a little higher than the recommended height. When I started using LED's I had the problem of buying a panel that was too small, and then I ended up getting pissed and buying a bigger one, and a bigger one, and.... you get where I'm going with this.

Learn from my mistakes, and whichever panel you buy, make sure that it's going to fit your current and future needs.
 
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jcmjrt

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tortie said:
Hello everyone! What do you guys recommend for a one-plant closet grow? (about 1.5x1.5). Preferably price would be under $1000.
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How high is the space? You need to figure (generally) about a foot for the pot, half foot for the fixture, one and half foot for the distance between canopy and bottom of the fixture = 3 ft You subtract that number (3ft in this case) from the height of the space and you've got the height of the plant that you can grow. Now obviously you could use a small pot to gain a few inches but the biggest difference is probably the distance needed between the plant canopy and fixture and there could be a couple inches with a shallower fixture too. Higher wattage LEDs with lenses usually need more distance than lower wattage LEDs with lenses.
 
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JoeP420

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Hello everyone, first time poster here and novice grower.

I am looking to get into the LED grow game, specifically with one of these lights (for now) http://www.ebay.com/itm/180W-UFO-LED-Grow-Light-8spectrum-LEDs-Hydroponic-Plant-Pro-LED-Grow-Lamp-Panel-/390631691467?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5af37694cb - and - http://www.ebay.com/itm/135W-UFO-LED-Grow-Light-3W-IR-Flower-LED-spectrum-Hydroponic-grow-lamp-panel-/370799407005?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item56555def9d

Just wondering if anyone had any experience with these and if it is worth the cheap price. Also i should note that im just looking to grow 1-2 plants tops for myself.

I've only ever grown with CFL indoors, and HID is not an option for me.

I should also say that i only plan on growing autoflower with this setup and my first grow with it will be NL Auto (greenhouse)

Any input or advice would be greatly appreciated

Thanks!
 
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tortie

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jcmjrt said:
How high is the space? You need to figure (generally) about a foot for the pot, half foot for the fixture, one and half foot for the distance between canopy and bottom of the fixture = 3 ft You subtract that number (3ft in this case) from the height of the space and you've got the height of the plant that you can grow. Now obviously you could use a small pot to gain a few inches but the biggest difference is probably the distance needed between the plant canopy and fixture and there could be a couple inches with a shallower fixture too. Higher wattage LEDs with lenses usually need more distance than lower wattage LEDs with lenses.
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Hi thanks for the quick reply. Cabinet height is 8 feet, so LED distance would not be a problem.
 
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tortie

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bluefoodie said:
The newly-updated Hans panel will do you good:

http://www.bonsaihero.com/ledgrow.html
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Beefbisquit said:
1.5 x1.5 is small enough that you could get away with lots of different lights. $1000 is a very aggressive budget for that space, but I like your style. :grin:

If you want to maximize your yield, and potentially have a light you could expand with I'd recommend using an Area 51 panel the SGS-160 or an Apache light, and hanging it a little higher than the recommended height. When I started using LED's I had the problem of buying a panel that was too small, and then I ended up getting pissed and buying a bigger one, and a bigger one, and.... you get where I'm going with this.

Learn from my mistakes, and whichever panel you buy, make sure that it's going to fit your current and future needs.
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Thanks for the tip! Ill be checking those out.
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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Gravity Man said:
Hey all! I have $400 burning a hole in my pocket, and I need some LED action!

My grow area is about 2 sq. ft. and about 6 cu. ft.

I have my eyes set on this:

California Lightworks Solar Flare

Thoughts? Other suggestions?

THANK YOU!
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Those are great lights from everything I've heard. Exceptionally well made, and a proprietary design that uses LED's made in the USA.

CLW, Apache, and Area 51 are the LED kings, if you ask me....
 
Someacdude

Someacdude

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Wow, thanks guys, my search on the forum just started working so i just found this.
Im thinking about solar flare myself, i will be using 2 four by eight trays.
Just wanted to post something so i dont lose this, but ANY suggestions are appreciated .
 
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