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wyteberrywidow · Mar 18, 2013

PSUAGRO. said:
soil or hydro? I can give you recommendations in that price point

Coco so that would be considered hydro. Doing drain-to-waste.

PSUAGRO. · Mar 18, 2013

wyteberrywidow said:
Coco so that would be considered hydro. Doing drain-to-waste.

Well if you break your selection down to your best four 1 gallon pots with cocco you should still hit 6 zips and it opens up some more options at your price point due to the smaller coverage area needed.....I'll give you some links when I get home......my phone sucks.

wyteberrywidow · Mar 18, 2013

Sounds good. I got some clones selected already they did nice in promix I'm running them now in coo and hopefully they do even better.

K5Doom · Mar 18, 2013

Hi,

I'm looking to build my own, still unsure wether I should get some Osram GD+, some CREE XTE or some Luxeon ES.

The GD+ are cheaper so that's always nice. My tent volume should be approximately 20x25x40 inches. Still unsure how much light I would need. I'm not looking to grow more than 2-3 plants at the same time, nor do I plan to in the future.

multipass · Mar 19, 2013

thx for the suggestions all, I will keep you updated with my new 2x Hans Panels :blsmoke:

Ganjapussy · Mar 19, 2013

After working for 2.5 strait months.... I know who has the best LEDs on the Market.... It's simply Blackstar *Shrugs*

Amychai0901 · Mar 19, 2013

I am looking to build my 2*2 grow room,and like to start with 6 plants,not sure one 240w will cover.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-240w-Grow-LED-Light-Veg-Flowring-Daisy-Chain-Usage-Full-Spectrum-/230943325586?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c54b7d92

Ganjapussy · Mar 19, 2013

^^ 6 plants in a 2x2???......... huh

Kibiguru · Mar 19, 2013

I decided to go with the Sunshine Systems Pro series. i'm also going with the UltraBlend Series, I heard they were Phenominal, they have the biggest LED and most output. It Covers a 5X5 ft area. I talked to someone at UCSD and that's what they're using. I guess the USDA and Dept of Agriculture uses as well.

http://sdhydroponics.com/lighting-accessories/led-grow-lights/sunshine-systems.html

Unfortunately you have to go through a hydro store to get the Pro Ultrablend light the Manufacturer doesnt sell directly yet, as it's new... :fire:

obijkli · Mar 19, 2013

http://senua-hydroponics.co.uk/products/led-glow-lights/red-and-blue-hydroponic-grow-light

how many of these would i need for 1 or 2 plants? are they any good?

wyteberrywidow · Mar 19, 2013

Ganjapussy said:
^^ 6 plants in a 2x2???......... huh

Its possible sort of something I'm trying to do really.

PetFlora · Mar 19, 2013

Kibiguru said:
I decided to go with the Sunshine Systems Pro series. i'm also going with the UltraBlend Series, I heard they were Phenominal, they have the biggest LED and most output. It Covers a 5X5 ft area. I talked to someone at UCSD and that's what they're using. I guess the USDA and Dept of Agriculture uses as well.

http://sdhydroponics.com/lighting-accessories/led-grow-lights/sunshine-systems.html

Unfortunately you have to go through a hydro store to get the Pro Ultrablend light the Manufacturer doesnt sell directly yet, as it's new...

In case the money hasn't been spent yet, smaller panels offer more coverage and flexibility. Of course if you suffer from small dick syndrome, I understand compensating with whatever is biggest/baddest..., but dude, get over it.

FranJan · Mar 19, 2013

Amychai0901 said:
I am looking to build my 2*2 grow room,and like to start with 6 plants,not sure one 240w will cover.http://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-240w-Grow-LED-Light-Veg-Flowring-Daisy-Chain-Usage-Full-Spectrum-/230943325586?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c54b7d92

You will probably be very disappointed if you try to grow 6 plants with that.

FranJan · Mar 19, 2013

obijkli said:
http://senua-hydroponics.co.uk/products/led-glow-lights/red-and-blue-hydroponic-grow-lighthow many of these would i need for 1 or 2 plants? are they any good?

Those appear to be 5mm LEDs that are good for growing wheat grass or helping to keep your house plant alive indoors during the winter. Do yourself a favor and don't buy anything that looks like that and you'll protect yourself from scammers.

SnotBoogie · Mar 19, 2013

K5Doom said:
Hi,

I'm looking to build my own, still unsure wether I should get some Osram GD+, some CREE XTE or some Luxeon ES.

The GD+ are cheaper so that's always nice. My tent volume should be approximately 20x25x40 inches. Still unsure how much light I would need. I'm not looking to grow more than 2-3 plants at the same time, nor do I plan to in the future.

*steps up*

the GD+ are older generation LED. I wouldn't go with them for a new build. (unless theyve done a new gen?? not watching GD's)

Cree XTE are one of the best White LED available atm. I just bought some WW's myself. Theyre also binned at 85C rather than 25C like most LED. (What this means, is that theoretically they need less cooling).

Luxeon are well regarded for their Reds at least around here. I'm not sure if I would use them for whites.

You should also look into the Osram Oslon series. They have wide beam angle, good selection of colors and a really nice warm white.

Have you decided what spectral distribution you want already? This would be the first question when selecting - bearing in mind the relationship between spectrum, efficiency and PAR. I will break it down further for you when after work (it can be the foundation for DIY LED informational post.

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FranJan · Mar 19, 2013

Kibiguru said:
I decided to go with the Sunshine Systems Pro series. i'm also going with the UltraBlend Series, I heard they were Phenominal, they have the biggest LED and most output. It Covers a 5X5 ft area. I talked to someone at UCSD and that's what they're using. I guess the USDA and Dept of Agriculture uses as well. http://sdhydroponics.com/lighting-accessories/led-grow-lights/sunshine-systems.htmlUnfortunately you have to go through a hydro store to get the Pro Ultrablend light the Manufacturer doesnt sell directly yet, as it's new...

Hey Kibi. If you get that panel you gotta do a journal for the community. SS has been around from the begining and while I don't think they're geared toward cannabis, they do have some expertise in growing that other companies lack. Good Luck with that.

K5Doom · Mar 19, 2013

SnotBoogie said:
*steps up*

the GD+ are older generation LED. I wouldn't go with them for a new build. (unless theyve done a new gen?? not watching GD's)

Cree XTE are one of the best White LED available atm. I just bought some WW's myself. Theyre also binned at 85C rather than 25C like most LED. (What this means, is that theoretically they need less cooling).

Luxeon are well regarded for their Reds at least around here. I'm not sure if I would use them for whites.

You should also look into the Osram Oslon series. They have wide beam angle, good selection of colors and a really nice warm white.

Have you decided what spectral distribution you want already? This would be the first question when selecting - bearing in mind the relationship between spectrum, efficiency and PAR. I will break it down further for you when after work (it can be the foundation for DIY LED informational post. )

Hey thanks, that would be awesome! About the spectral distribution, no I'm still not sure. I've never grown before so it will be a first. This is why I am asking more experienced growers for advice.

I read that a distribution of 8:2:1 red/white/blue would be good though?

FranJan · Mar 19, 2013

SnotBoogie said:
Theyre also binned at 85C rather than 25C like most LED. (What this means, is that theoretically they need less cooling).

Uhmmm gang? LEDs are binned, or hot binned which I believe is what Philips calls it, at 85C because no one who builds or buys lights/panels run their lights at 25C. This way the LEDs colors and performance match up with the real world and not a laboratory. People were very unhappy when they bought all these LEDs and the colors and performance weren't matching up with what the specs said, so NEMA and ANSI have been getting on diode makers to provide better data specs, and one of them is binning at real world temps. It is not a complete revolution in LED cooling and production.

guod · Mar 19, 2013

fran says it all, so only a link

http://www2.electronicproducts.com/When_it_comes_to_binning_LEDs_some_like_it_hot-article-farc_cree_mqy2012-html.aspx

cannabiscultivation · Mar 19, 2013

multipass said:
I've been researching and preparing to get some LEDs for the past few months and am still looking for the perfect fit... Looking at basically all possible choices.
I am stuck between trying high quality led (like blackdog/rhino/a51/etc), household fixtures with easily replaceable screw in LEDs, and cheaper ebay fixture.

But this is a very small grow of 1-3 plants, and could easily be done with CFLs--but I want to try LEDs.

What is the biggest issue/concern everyone would see with a BonsaiHero hans LED, or getting one of these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-140W-LED-Grow-Light-5-Spectrum-UFO-like-HYDROPONIC-Lighting-140-Watts-/230917016915?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c3ba0d53 -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ijWUCQcs6gQ

Is it light quality? warranty? chance of failure? power?

I used 2 135 watt ufo's to get my first 3 plant grow home. 22 grams per plant less then 3 foot tall.
ebay 85 bucks
mixwholesale. I also ordered a 180 from shenzeng china. The power supply had come lose so I opened it up to repair.
nice workmanship really. heavy aluminum heat sink.

veg

bud

new grow

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