If you induce enough stress to trigger a nanner

How long does it take for one to develop, if I go over that threshold?

My thought was if I induce stress towards the last week of flower maybe it wont develop a nanner in time before I chop.

When you say manner do you mean male pollen sacks ?
If this is what you mean Sinsemella buds will almost always produce a male sack or two at the end of flowering as theyare programmed to reproduce and will self seed if need be to continue on....

A week is not enough time.

Besides, why do you want to do this? The male produces pollen sacks, not seeds. It's the male pollen that pollinates the female plant after she reaches sexual maturity, and then she produces the seeds.

If you leave a flowering plant well beyond after it's done flowering, it can self-pollinate and later produce seeds as a last-ditch effort to carry itself forward.

Seems like a hormonal response. Figure science would be able to quantify exactly what triggers it. Why haven't they? Plant science is severely off track.

spek9 said:

A week is not enough time.

Besides, why do you want to do this? The male produces pollen sacks, not seeds. It's the male pollen that pollinates the female plant after she reaches sexual maturity, and then she produces the seeds.

If you leave a flowering plant well beyond after it's done flowering, it can self-pollinate and later produce seeds as a last-ditch effort to carry itself forward.

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My thoughts were saving the most traumatic forms of hst like stem splitting for when there won’t be enough time for seeds to generate prior to chop. I don’t know the time line for when enough stressed is induced to reach that point and when it actually happens as a result.

Ausweed said:

When you say manner do you mean male pollen sacks ?
If this is what you mean Sinsemella buds will almost always produce a male sack or two at the end of flowering as theyare programmed to reproduce and will self seed if need be to continue on....

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Yeah, my understanding was that nanners were the inside of the male pollen sacs and form on your buds.

RamenToppings said:

My thoughts were saving the most traumatic forms of hst like stem splitting for when there won’t be enough time for seeds to generate prior to chop. I don’t know the time line for when enough stressed is induced to reach that point and when it actually happens as a result.

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You really shouldn't be adding any stress to plants late into flower, it should be done within the stretch period if anything.

spek9 said:

You really shouldn't be adding any stress to plants late into flower, it should be done within the stretch period if anything.

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i want to impale my plant with an object 10 days before flower

spek9 said:

You really shouldn't be adding any stress to plants late into flower, it should be done within the stretch period if anything.

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From what I have learnt; a plant won’t hermie under stress. I’ve seen huge plants out in the bush that have toppled sideways etc and they are under immense stress but still don’t hermie; maybe some strains do and are more sensitive who knows ? But my understanding was It’s either genetic or as above plants will self seed late in flower once they realise they have not been pollinated.

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From what I have learnt; a plant won’t hermie under stress. I’ve seen huge plants out in the bush that have toppled sideways etc and they are under immense stress but still don’t hermie; maybe some strains do and are more sensitive who knows ? But my understanding was It’s either genetic or as above plants will self seed late in flower once they realise they have not been pollinated.

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A plant can definitely turn hermie under significant stress. Many people have used this technique to get female plants to produce pollen intentionally.

What I meant when I said stress shouldn't be introduced late into flower was for the healing aspects. Stressing/causing damage to a plant late into flower, and the plant will spend its time trying to heal instead of focusing solely on bud ripening.

spek9 said:

A plant can definitely turn hermie under significant stress. Many people have used this technique to get female plants to produce pollen intentionally.

What I meant when I said stress shouldn't be introduced late into flower was for the healing aspects. Stressing/causing damage to a plant late into flower, and the plant will spend its time trying to heal instead of focusing solely on bud ripening.

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Got you; so similar to some guys who LST etc at the wrong time yeah ? Plant says “no” WTF are you doing to me ?!?!

The simple answer is yes.

Some strains can handle more stress than others. My clone only Sunset Sherbert is a sensitive bitch. She doesn't like to be messed with at all during flower, or she will produce nanners. If I leave her alone, she's fine and can go for 74 days no problem without popping any nanners. My other strains can take a lot more abuse.

So it totally depends on the strain.

My 1 experience with self-seeding was with a know strain that had been ran multiple times before without a single seed. I think I had a pH swing or pushed her hard as it was a living/super soil and I was still nudging it a bit with NFTG goodies and with the HH I likely had a pH impact that played into this. The other usual suspect variables were consistent (same room/hvac/lighting/strain).

What I haven't quite sorted out is if these seeds are worth a damn and should I keep them/try to use them at all. Will they be hermie prone, etc...

What did appear around mid flower was this really weird little reddish vine deal with what I assume were nanners - but they didn't look like pics I see. This was prominently sticking up/out of the forming bud. Just one or two little shoots which I plucked immediately upon noticing. From them on I went lighter on the NFTG stuff and let it ride out. It's great smoke but does have a few seeds in some buds but not all.

If you're looking to induce stress for seed purposes you might try screwing with pH but then I'd hope this is a seed run and you don't care about the negative impact otherwise to your yield/outcome.