Illinois medical marijuana card wait time

higuys123

New Member
We still have to be registered at a dispensary, our purchases still tracked, our mmj use is still in the PMP and our license plates still flagged.
This while recreational users can walk into any recreational dispensary, their 30g limit is on the honor system, their Drs won't know unless they tell them and cops will have no idea who may have recreational pot in possession by running their plates.
I see an equal protection case, although I'm leaving it open that no major controversial changes were made to medical to get it being made permanent passed easily and these issues will be fixed. I don't see how they will get away with treating the sick and disabled this differently to buy the same product for long.
If they're on the honor system we should be on the honor system which takes away the need to register at a dispensary. If their plates aren't flagged ours don't need to be. If their cannabis use is left up to them to convey to their Drs our Drs don't need to be alerted to ours.

But dispensary switches are to be immediate. I'm assuming since you can go into a dispensary and have them switch you now, you'll be able to go into a dispensary you are not registered at and have them switch you immediately whenever the rulemaking allows that to take place (that's in the medical bill not the recreational bill so 1/1/20 shouldn't apply like growing for medical does).

Reasons to keep a medical card for $100/yr, 2.5oz possession limit (why you need to carry 2.5oz I don't know or judge), legal homegrowing, taxes will be 10% on most flower, 20% on edibles, 25% on most concentrates. And THC limits, not that IL sells anything higher than any other state's recreational limits now (many of our edibles are micro-doses), but we don't know what our recreational limits are yet.
High CBD flower, while I think they should and hope they do sell high CBD flower recreationally we won't know until they start selling recreational.

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I'm questioning a few points that you bring up.... Please elaborate on "plates are flagged." I don't think they retrieve your medical card information on the fly - at least I couldn't imagine that being the case. Do you have a link to an official document stating this as the case? Also, what do you mean "doctor's alerted." Beyond the physician that filled out your application, who else is being alerted?

Thanks,
higuys123
 

Myk63

Well-Known Member
I'm questioning a few points that you bring up.... Please elaborate on "plates are flagged." I don't think they retrieve your medical card information on the fly - at least I couldn't imagine that being the case. Do you have a link to an official document stating this as the case? Also, what do you mean "doctor's alerted." Beyond the physician that filled out your application, who else is being alerted?

Thanks,
higuys123
Technically it's your driver's license, but your drivers license record comes up with they run plates registered to the driver's license.

"Upon the approval of the registration and issuance of a
registry card under this Section, the Department of Public
Health shall forward the designated caregiver or registered
qualified patient's driver's registration number to the
Secretary of State and certify that the individual is permitted
to engage in the medical use of cannabis. For the purposes of
law enforcement, the Secretary of State shall make a notation
on the person's driving record stating the person is a
registered qualifying patient who is entitled to the lawful
medical use of cannabis."

Dr's is the Prescription Monitoring Program. They are supposed to check the PMP before prescribing commonly abused drugs to make sure you aren't double dipping to sell on the streets. I've heard of people refused pretty important surgery (like a broken spine) because they show up as a mmj user.

"For the purposes of
patient care, the Prescription Monitoring Program shall make a
notation on the person's prescription record stating that the
person is a registered qualifying patient who is entitled to
the lawful medical use of cannabis."

All quotes are from Public Act 100-1114, the Medical Cannabis Pilot Program passed with the Opioid Alternative Pilot Program. These are still in the bill passed but not yet signed to make the MCPP/OAPP permanent.
I don't really know how to find previous session's public acts, but this is the bill from this year. They're in there, word for word.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/101/SB/PDF/10100SB2023ham001.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2lf6GSvejEuZ8ZBjW9PgDwLBRYsBAUAjW24HVSZoOdb4LBI-YuQAqlido

Trust me, I didn't pay nearly $300 to the state to get a different truck for no reason. Some cops may not know what it is when it shows up when they run your plates but it is there for them. Because you know someone might stab them with a doobie. And if they find you with a jar of weed they can't simply check your MCPP card that you're legally required to have on your person to carry that weed.
 

mackey

Well-Known Member
Relocating to Illinois and while looking at property, houses really need to know if the 1000 ft of school or park will apply to medical.
 

Myk63

Well-Known Member
Relocating to Illinois and while looking at property, houses really need to know if the 1000 ft of school or park will apply to medical.
For using in your own house? Those laws never stand up even if they are there. I don't know what 1000ft limit you're talking about otherwise, the only "1000" in the recreational act references a code. No "thousand" in either.

You may not possess, "(A) in a school bus, unless permitted for a qualifying patient or caregiver pursuant to the Compassionate Use of Medical Cannabis Pilot Program Act; (B) on the grounds of any preschool or primary or secondary school, unless permitted for a qualifying patient or caregiver pursuant to the Compassionate Use of Medical Cannabis Pilot Program Act; (C) in any correctional facility; (D) in a vehicle not open to the public unless the cannabis is in a reasonably secured, sealed container and reasonably inaccessible while the vehicle is moving; or (E) in a private residence that is used at any time to provide licensed child care or other similar social service care on the premises;"
You may not use "(A) in a school bus, unless permitted for a qualifying patient or caregiver pursuant to the Compassionate Use of Medical Cannabis Pilot Program Act; (B) on the grounds of any preschool or primary or secondary school, unless permitted for a qualifying patient or caregiver pursuant to the Compassionate Use of Medical Cannabis Pilot Program Act; (C) in any correctional facility; (D) in any motor vehicle; (E) in a private residence that is used at any time to provide licensed child care or other similar social service care on the premises; (F) in any public place; or (G) knowingly in close physical proximity to anyone under 21 years of age who is not a registered medical cannabis patient under the Compassionate Use of Medical Cannabis Pilot Program Act;"

I don't know if that answers your question, it sounds more like you're talking about business zoning. You do not give up freedom just because a school moves in across the street.
 
This Came Today In My E-Mail

Not Sure If I'll Participate In The Survey

Anyone Else Get This And Are You Going To Participate And Why??



Dear Medical Cannabis Program Participant:



As you know, older adults can experience health issues. Often these health issues require complex and costly treatments. Responding to the treatment needs of patients, many states like Illinois have moved to legalize cannabis (marijuana) for medical use, offering a treatment alternative for a variety of medical conditions and symptoms. In Illinois, the state has allowed access to medical cannabis through the condition-based Medical Cannabis Patient Program begun in 2016.



Because you are enrolled in the Illinois Medical Cannabis Patient Program, we would like to learn more about your thoughts and experiences with cannabis and the Medical Cannabis Patient Program (MCPP). The Illinois Department of Public Health has collaborated with researchers at the University of Illinois and the University of Iowa, to develop a research survey to collect data about your attitudes and experiences regarding cannabis as well as with the medical cannabis program. We now invite you to spend the next 15 minutes completing this survey.



If you are ready to begin or if you want to learn more about this research project before you start, please click on the link provided below. You will be taken to a secure webpage that provides information about this survey and reviews your rights as a participant in our study.



Remember we assure you there is no way for us to determine who you are and the answers you provide will not be shared with any company, government agency or anyone else not included on our research team. We explain how we protect your confidentiality in more detail prior to taking the survey.





Thank you for your consideration.



SURVEY LINK





State of Illinois - CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged or attorney work product, may constitute inside information or internal deliberative staff communication, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and destroy this communication and all copies thereof, including all attachments. Receipt by an unintended recipient does not waive attorney-client privilege, attorney work product privilege, or any other exemption from disclosure.
 

Fixed up

Well-Known Member
Why would you. No way I would trust any state to keep your info confidential.

Isn’t recreational going to be legal in Illinois Jan 1st 2020 anyhow.
 

Bdogg90

Member
Why would you. No way I would trust any state to keep your info confidential.

Isn’t recreational going to be legal in Illinois Jan 1st 2020 anyhow.

Yes it will be recreational but with a big fat tax. Also non medical card holders are unable to legally grow plants.
 

JimmiP

Well-Known Member
For using in your own house? Those laws never stand up even if they are there. I don't know what 1000ft limit you're talking about otherwise, the only "1000" in the recreational act references a code. No "thousand" in either.

You may not possess, "(A) in a school bus, unless permitted for a qualifying patient or caregiver pursuant to the Compassionate Use of Medical Cannabis Pilot Program Act; (B) on the grounds of any preschool or primary or secondary school, unless permitted for a qualifying patient or caregiver pursuant to the Compassionate Use of Medical Cannabis Pilot Program Act; (C) in any correctional facility; (D) in a vehicle not open to the public unless the cannabis is in a reasonably secured, sealed container and reasonably inaccessible while the vehicle is moving; or (E) in a private residence that is used at any time to provide licensed child care or other similar social service care on the premises;"
You may not use "(A) in a school bus, unless permitted for a qualifying patient or caregiver pursuant to the Compassionate Use of Medical Cannabis Pilot Program Act; (B) on the grounds of any preschool or primary or secondary school, unless permitted for a qualifying patient or caregiver pursuant to the Compassionate Use of Medical Cannabis Pilot Program Act; (C) in any correctional facility; (D) in any motor vehicle; (E) in a private residence that is used at any time to provide licensed child care or other similar social service care on the premises; (F) in any public place; or (G) knowingly in close physical proximity to anyone under 21 years of age who is not a registered medical cannabis patient under the Compassionate Use of Medical Cannabis Pilot Program Act;"

I don't know if that answers your question, it sounds more like you're talking about business zoning. You do not give up freedom just because a school moves in across the street.
No. Your fine. I live right next to two schools. I have my card. And remember its your medicine. If you had a prescription for oxycontin you wouldn't worry , would you? And it's going to be legal January 1, 2020 so as long as it's in your house it's cool. Most places, here in Illinois, the police have given up anyway. There isn't time left to prosecute a person now.
 
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JimmiP

Well-Known Member
Yes it will be recreational but with a big fat tax. Also non medical card holders are unable to legally grow plants.
Yeah they didn't approve recreational cultivation this time. They will in the next couple of years though. In the meantime, if (after January 1, 2020) you are caught growing five plants or less you will be subjected to a civil (not criminal) penalty of $200.00. Soooooooooo,,,, who cares. Just dont grow big huge trees in your front yard.
 

natureboy!

Well-Known Member
The page has finally slowed to a snails pace , nearly gone ! and that's what we all wanted this time last year ! I have had my card for awhile now , its all good ! Since I have got my card prices have really gone up ! My local dispensary has about 40+ varieties of flower in grams and 1/8ths , but 1/2 and 1 oz are only 6 in stock , and that's 3 variations of critical cure , and shake ! They Make More selling 60+ Dollar eighths , than 300 dollar Ounces ! Unfortunate High prices , when you can get 180 Hydros at Pharmacy for 20 bucks ! So Much for "The Compassionate " ! That was a gimmick to advance the cause / recreational .ALSO : the way the new law is written , it is designed to phase out Medical , with dispensaries catering to Recreational. I can see in a few years the state saving time and money with IDPH and discontinue the program...its the way the law is set up , could happen , and this IS Illinois …. ! (in my best Columbo voice) "Oh , One More Thing "....When is the IDPH new rule going to kick in ?? its been over 30 days ….
  • Allow registered MCPP patients to register up to three (3) designated caregivers - launch date to be determined
  • Allow “immediate” dispensary changes for registered MCPP patients - launch date to be determined
    Well , glad I stopped by ! its been awhile ! Have a Good Day !
 
The page has finally slowed to a snails pace , nearly gone ! and that's what we all wanted this time last year ! I have had my card for awhile now , its all good ! Since I have got my card prices have really gone up ! My local dispensary has about 40+ varieties of flower in grams and 1/8ths , but 1/2 and 1 oz are only 6 in stock , and that's 3 variations of critical cure , and shake ! They Make More selling 60+ Dollar eighths , than 300 dollar Ounces ! Unfortunate High prices , when you can get 180 Hydros at Pharmacy for 20 bucks ! So Much for "The Compassionate " ! That was a gimmick to advance the cause / recreational .ALSO : the way the new law is written , it is designed to phase out Medical , with dispensaries catering to Recreational. I can see in a few years the state saving time and money with IDPH and discontinue the program...its the way the law is set up , could happen , and this IS Illinois …. ! (in my best Columbo voice) "Oh , One More Thing "....When is the IDPH new rule going to kick in ?? its been over 30 days ….
  • Allow registered MCPP patients to register up to three (3) designated caregivers - launch date to be determined
  • Allow “immediate” dispensary changes for registered MCPP patients - launch date to be determined
    Well , glad I stopped by ! its been awhile ! Have a Good Day !
The quality has gone up quiet a bit. But yeah prices are too high (like most places). There are deals to be found, especially in concentrates. The best deal right now IMO is Bedford Grow's rosin.
 

eakeeper

Active Member
Anyone with MMJ cardholders getting ready to grow? 5 plants aren't going to be enough, but better than getting it from the dispensary.
I am a caregiver for my husband and it will all be used to make RSO. He is currently taking Chemo and he is taking a tiny drop (literally a size of a sesame seed) of RSO helps him a lot. Near zero side effect.
 

JimmiP

Well-Known Member
Anyone with MMJ cardholders getting ready to grow? 5 plants aren't going to be enough, but better than getting it from the dispensary.
I am a caregiver for my husband and it will all be used to make RSO. He is currently taking Chemo and he is taking a tiny drop (literally a size of a sesame seed) of RSO helps him a lot. Near zero side effect.
I am all set. And five plants can be as much as you need it to be. It's all about how you do it. Inside or outside, you guide the plant to do what you want it to do.
If your husband is only using that much you will be able to get more than you need.
I have been helping others I know with their gardening for years and we always have enough. In an indoor 4x4 flowering area you could get a pound every few months and there different flowering chambers running along with a fourth room for vegatative growth. Not to mention the law says we can have five plants that are over 5 inches tall. And there is no limit on plants smaller than that.
So clones and seedlings can be kept on standby once a person is used to their cycles. If you need any help let me know.
 

eakeeper

Active Member
@JimmiP Thanks for your comment. My husband is using a sesame seed size oil orally to help nausea while he is taking chemo. He was told he has 4 - 6 months to live in 2017 and nearly in death bed in 2018. But thanks to RSO, he bounced back and he is still doing well. But he has a very low tolerance to THC. So, he has been getting 1g of RSO (equivalent to 0.25oz of buds) daily treatment by the suppository method. *** When taking a suppository (but you have to stay within external and internal sphincter - which is 1-1/2 inches from the entry point), you don't feel high.

Because he needs 1g (0.25oz of buds) RSO daily, I need all 5 plants and can't afford to mess it up. 1 lb of buds makes 60g RSO, which is 2 months treatment. Since growing from a seed to harvest/drying/curing takes 4-5 months, I need to get a minimum of 2-1/2 lbs of dry buds from the 5 plants. And if you are experienced in growing cannabis, you know it isn't going to be easy.
I am all setup as well. Since we are limited to 5 plants, I have to come up with a creative way to grow the plants. I am thinking about staring 5 plants, but only let 2 or 3 plants to flower and keep the rest in the veggie state longer and keep applying HST/LST to create more bud sites. I can keep 2-3 plants in flowering and follow by 2-3 plants in veggie, I can harvest 2-3 plants every 2 months. Well, this is one of my plans and I don't know if it will work or not, but the perpetual harvest is the goal.

That is why I was so happy to found this thread where IL residents can talk about this and perhaps we can help each other.

And as for growing outdoor, it isn't allowed in IL. Maybe it will change in the future, but in the upcoming year, our cultivation will have to stay indoors.

Here is the article stating this.

Personal Use of Cannabis in Illinois
Article 10
(1) An Illinois resident 21 years of age or older who is a registered qualifying patient under the CompassionateUse of Medical Cannabis Pilot Program Act may cultivate cannabis plants, with a limit of 5 plants that are more than 5 inches tall, per household without a cultivation center or craft grower license. In this Section, "resident" means a person who has been domiciled in the State of Illinois for a period of 30 days before cultivation.
(2) Cannabis cultivation must take place in an enclosed, locked space.
(3) Adult registered qualifying patients may purchase cannabis seeds from a dispensary for the purpose of home cultivation. Seeds may not be given or sold to any other person.
(4) Cannabis plants shall not be stored or placed in a location where they are subject to ordinary public view, as defined in this Act. A registered qualifying patient who cultivates cannabis under this Section shall take reasonable precautions to ensure the plants are secure from unauthorized access, including unauthorized access by a person under 21 years of age.
 
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JimmiP

Well-Known Member
@JimmiP Thanks for your comment. My husband is using a sesame seed size oil orally to help nausea while he is taking chemo. He was told he has 4 - 6 months to live in 2017 and nearly in death bed in 2018. But thanks to RSO, he bounced back and he is still doing well. But he has a very low tolerance to THC. So, he has been getting 1g of RSO (equivalent to 0.25oz of buds) daily treatment by the suppository method. *** When taking a suppository (but you have to stay within external and internal sphincter - which is 1-1/2 inches from the entry point), you don't feel high.

Because he needs 1g (0.25oz of buds) RSO daily, I need all 5 plants and can't afford to mess it up. 1 lb of buds makes 60g RSO, which is 2 months treatment. Since growing from a seed to harvest/drying/curing takes 4-5 months, I need to get a minimum of 2-1/2 lbs of dry buds from the 5 plants. And if you are experienced in growing cannabis, you know it isn't going to be easy.
I am all setup as well. Since we are limited to 5 plants, I have to come up with a creative way to grow the plants. I am thinking about staring 5 plants, but only let 2 or 3 plants to flower and keep the rest in the veggie state longer and keep applying HST/LST to create more bud sites. I can keep 2-3 plants in flowering and follow by 2-3 plants in veggie, I can harvest 2-3 plants every 2 months. Well, this is one of my plans and I don't know if it will work or not, but the perpetual harvest is the goal.

That is why I was so happy to found this thread where IL residents can talk about this and perhaps we can help each other.

And as for growing outdoor, it isn't allowed in IL. Maybe it will change in the future, but in the upcoming year, our cultivation will have to stay indoors.

Here is the article stating this.
that is exactly what I was talking about. And I am sorry I did not understand about the suppository situation.
Have you ever cloned any plants? And also were you planning on growing in soil or another medium? I have been growing in a soil mix as of late but am going back to hydroponic for the winter on Jan 1.
Now, outdoor growing is allowed. It will have to be locked behind a fence though. Or even better a locked greenhouse. That's the thing, the plants have to be secured and out of public view. Colorado had something similar. We want them out of view anyway. No one wants to be the target of criminals.
 
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