amneziaHaze
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Soo all the ones with tuny leafs are organic water and normal ones are soil?
Im about to be demonized & chatisized
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DrGreenThumbz82
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About 4 - 5 weeks organic are the ones I just putnin flower after the 4 5 weeks they switched too the automatic watering system meaning I had to use synthetic lotus nutrients so almost 3 weeks now non organic but the autos are the seedlings in 1g fabrics they are going to be fully organic
Tolerance Break
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Good luck.
Frankly, I'd work on getting good bud from a well understood style of cultivation before reinventing the wheel. You do you
Frankly, I'd work on getting good bud from a well understood style of cultivation before reinventing the wheel. You do you
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DrGreenThumbz82
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Here's day 2 of flowering I'll take any advice and tips thoughts etc 
DrGreenThumbz82
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Being new I've been trying to learn defoliation but don't want to go overboard obviously I need some lst practice but I'm onto what when where how NOW that I see and learn more about manifolds etc fun stuff this whole process I think now that it's switched from 24 lights 12 12 ima see se huge explosion on growth, opinions on how much more defoliation I can / should do at once ? Or every 2 3 days? Thanks guys happy growin
DrGreenThumbz82
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Should I worry about yanking the pots out of their buckets and deep cleaning the bucket ever? Since I put the bonsai in the garage I took the opertunity to wipe out and spray with iso and whipe out the dirty bucket made me wonder if I should to every bucket which will be fun with how big they are getting they already are 5g pots in a 3g pot system
tstick
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THIS!
DrGreenThumbz82
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I'd like to think I currently DO have a good thing going that I believe would be enhanced significantly by organics my roots are happy ..... looks like I need to upgrade too 7 or 10g pots they are bursting through the 5g fabric pots thanks great white
P.s I just realized why my plants look the way they do esp in the inherent tent its time to educate myself and learn from this mistake but with my res and controller outside the tent I had to puncture holes for my hoses and apparently the Itty bitty up lift makes a quarter inch of water at beast sit in the buckets that can't be good bacteria wise and also I'd assume my pits can't fully drain and will be sitting possibly in the tiniest of run off that hasn't been recirculated properly ..... I'm here to learn and get better so I'm rotating plants and cleaning the pits and adjusted them to be equal with the hoses completely sure this will be a significant help cleaning buckets with iso and hydrogen peroxide
.... thoughts on buying a tote or jug that can hold a 10 g fabric pot like currently with the oxygen cubes because I'd I'm just starting flower and roots are busting through fabric badly another 8 weeks of this I'd see probably insane growth if I just upgrade too the 10g fabric pots I got just unsure how I could use my system need a bigger bucket too flood
P.s I just realized why my plants look the way they do esp in the inherent tent its time to educate myself and learn from this mistake but with my res and controller outside the tent I had to puncture holes for my hoses and apparently the Itty bitty up lift makes a quarter inch of water at beast sit in the buckets that can't be good bacteria wise and also I'd assume my pits can't fully drain and will be sitting possibly in the tiniest of run off that hasn't been recirculated properly ..... I'm here to learn and get better so I'm rotating plants and cleaning the pits and adjusted them to be equal with the hoses completely sure this will be a significant help cleaning buckets with iso and hydrogen peroxide
.... thoughts on buying a tote or jug that can hold a 10 g fabric pot like currently with the oxygen cubes because I'd I'm just starting flower and roots are busting through fabric badly another 8 weeks of this I'd see probably insane growth if I just upgrade too the 10g fabric pots I got just unsure how I could use my system need a bigger bucket too flood
pahpah-cee
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Get that plug off the floor ASAP
DrGreenThumbz82
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I'll toot my horn on my overall first experience esp in hydro I ain't doing the worst that's been done making technical fouls I'm being taxed on sure but I'm catching them and learning 
I only sat it on the floor QUICK to grab my phone take a picture I know probably dumb but I wanted to get pix while it was out too see everyone's recommendations it was instantly picked up and put in the oxygen cube sigh I should knew better those roots showing will self prune regardless right or was the main concern sulking up floor germs bacteria etc etc
I only sat it on the floor QUICK to grab my phone take a picture I know probably dumb but I wanted to get pix while it was out too see everyone's recommendations it was instantly picked up and put in the oxygen cube sigh I should knew better those roots showing will self prune regardless right or was the main concern sulking up floor germs bacteria etc etc
Tolerance Break
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I'm mean this sincerely
If your post script is longer than your script, you shouldn't be using the term. The first run on sentence would be a more fitting post script. Also, try using punctuation outside of elipses. It makes you sound more coherent and easier to understand.
The whole point of organics is to feed beneficial bacteria that will break down the organics into the ions the plants need. This is why hydro and organics don't mix well.
You have good intentions, and I respect that.
I'm mean this sincerely
If your post script is longer than your script, you shouldn't be using the term. The first run on sentence would be a more fitting post script. Also, try using punctuation outside of elipses. It makes you sound more coherent and easier to understand.
The whole point of organics is to feed beneficial bacteria that will break down the organics into the ions the plants need. This is why hydro and organics don't mix well.
lusidghost
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That fabric pot sitting on the carpet is making my skin crawl.
DrGreenThumbz82
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Your speaking facts, def no hard feelings I am pretty Passionate about this and learning thanks for your insights, respect
DrGreenThumbz82
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Sorry it was there less than 1.5 min, go ahead go to the free throw line and take 2 I'll take the flagrant foul
amneziaHaze
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looks interesting i would like to follow your grow. you have no problem with that yellow outline on every leaf?
DrGreenThumbz82
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Oh I have serious problems with that brother, I'm hoping I'm correcting that with a little extra cal mag in the res and foliar feeding with Epsom salt to hopefully pull out of the Mag Def I'm told I have, i have been working on that for a week now I'm thinking cleaning these pots out should help, and lifting them so they drain 100 percent properly.
Im still learning and look forward to you experienced people to help guide my dumba..... any suggestions ???
All this Def troubles is exactly why I'm wanting to be full Organic, I've also hit them 3 days ago with a worm compost eslpsom salt tea foliar style and they loved it ....... curious if I could hydroponic grow with plain pure ro water and ONLY foliar feed compost tea's..... if I foliar fed 2x a day compost tea's I truly think that would sufficient as leaves absorb under correct conditions 20x faster than via roots, this will be a project on the very next grow I do after these phenos, unless of course a more experienced grower has worked this area to no avail
Im still learning and look forward to you experienced people to help guide my dumba..... any suggestions ???
All this Def troubles is exactly why I'm wanting to be full Organic, I've also hit them 3 days ago with a worm compost eslpsom salt tea foliar style and they loved it ....... curious if I could hydroponic grow with plain pure ro water and ONLY foliar feed compost tea's..... if I foliar fed 2x a day compost tea's I truly think that would sufficient as leaves absorb under correct conditions 20x faster than via roots, this will be a project on the very next grow I do after these phenos, unless of course a more experienced grower has worked this area to no avail
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amneziaHaze
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whats the ph of the runnoff ? maybe you have bad ph and thats why she doesnt eat mag
Tolerance Break
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The tea doesn't feed the plant. The bacteria in the substrate/medium breaks down organics into ions.
Cal/mag can be absorbed through the leaves, due to mechanisms i don't fully understand, but mainly because they are concentrated ions.
Edit: I misspoke. Concentrated ions are salts, cal/mag is dissolved/diluted salts/ions.
Cal/mag can be absorbed through the leaves, due to mechanisms i don't fully understand, but mainly because they are concentrated ions.
Edit: I misspoke. Concentrated ions are salts, cal/mag is dissolved/diluted salts/ions.
bk78
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TOOT TOOT
DrGreenThumbz82
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Yea you are absolutely right, I don't know why I didn't remember the fact there isn't mutes in the tea the tea is good bacteria that when dies releases the nutes ahit however in my defense they do provide the leaves with said bacteria that does help I need to deeper research said things and experiment etc but that's my understanding as of a rookie so far thanks for reminding me something as simple yet huge as you did duh me