I'm Done

Hey everybody, I've been hiding in the shadows for some time reading all the great info in the threads and having a good chuckle. And am finally ready to ask some questions.

Im done with the BM. Must of been 10-12 oz since I have been able to obtain any usable pain relief meds. No access to a doctor in my neck of the woods (i have told my doctor every time for the past few years that I have severe/extreme back pain from years of working in the trades and I am also one of the 33% of people that experience post surgery pain from hernia surgery, they never told me the odds/risks, I would of said fix the worst one then lest go from their on the rest. Every time I walk in their and sit down he asks if I am on any meds and I say Cannabis every time because it is the only stuff that works, writes it down again and says Im healthy and I'm out in 10. I don't puff during the day as I operate my own business and am driving from job to job. But at the end of the day Fuck my back is shot once I stop climbing ladders, crawling around, and standing. Got the baked insoles in my boots, fuck all, new expensive pouch with all the perfect adjustments and padding, still fucked at the end of the day. Tired of taking the NSAIDS and have never asked for anything stronger due to the eye roll from the doc about the back.

Of all times not to have a good supply of meds this past week when my wife was in extreme pain and nauseated and all I had is day time smoke. It did help her sleep since she is not a regular user I suspect.
I tell her/preach to her how good a good strain can just take it all away, she's starting to come around for herself and has completely supported my use for stress and moods swings for years.

I've decided to take this into my own hands and look after my family and have a supply of meds if anything comes about. Now Ive ordered from Provision Seeds and everything is ready to go, soils cooking, rooms done and now what strain am I going to start with. Kinda went stupid and bought by the seat of my pants.
Indoor, small closet 5x2x7(LxWxH).

Picked up g31 Kush, Purple Widow, Afghani, Vortex, Atomic Shivea and got the bonus Lucky7s.

Would appreciate some help guys, looking for a strain that will take care of the pain and still allow me to function. Ive been able to read the leafy site and a few others but looking for a personal opinion from you guys if you have grown any of the above and please remember newbie.

Following.

Were all here to help ya. Well most lol. All of the strains your thinking about growing all will grow the same generally. Weeds weed usually. Some get taller and some stay short but for the most part the care is the same. The biggest things to consider are your climate the plants will be in, and the method you want to grow with.
Climate needs to be stable and controled. An A/C unit will help you, also an inline fan and carbon filter is almost a must have unless you live in the boonies and nobody ever comes over.
The easiest thing to grow in is organic potting soil. It needs the least amount of nutrients to go well with the least effort.
Just post a thread on any specific inquiries you have and a gang of members will fill it with answers. Some better than others so dont jump on the first one. Wait until theres a concensus.
A couple of the most common problems are, over watering, over feeding, and too much light. In that order lol. Good luck.

Provisions G31 is good for pain relief & helps with sleep, that I can vouch for

Havent seen too many people on here growin out provision seeds. One of the provision guys is a member and poster on here and im sure he will chime in and help you out.
Generally anything ive ever tried with a good afghani in it is a great pain med but might be a bit strong for your wife. Just an excuse to roll her smaller doobies lol

Good luck man hope you harvest every gram your hoping for.

Here's where it's going to get expensive; having done the legwork and trialled so many lighting combinations, I'm going to give you some advice; spend the money to get the best lighting, for your space that's going to be a 315W LEC (3100K) lamp and ballast. Yes, it's one of the more expensive options but it will last for many years, it will not use excessive power, it won't require extreme measures for cooling and it WILL produce the kind of strong medicine you and your wife need. HPS is a cheap choice you'll end up paying for, they aren't worth it.

The last place to skimp is in lighting, so bite the bullet and get the best. You'll thank me every harvest.

I agree with the COB LED advice assuming that's what the 315W LEC is. In a small closet like that it's going to be much easier to manage heat with the LED.

If you ever get the space though, double ended HPS absolutely kill it. I love my gavitas and I'm not even using them optimally yet (going from 7ft to 8ft this summer when I redo my room).

Strain wise I found that Anesthesia from Breeders Choice at Sannies had some nice pain relief qualities and was functional in the day with the right phenotype. There are also knock you down day ending phenotypes that are very potent.

CBD Nordle from Dinafem/CBD Crew has been treating me well. It puts me in a great mood and it is super functional. Also offers nice pain relief. And it smells really nice, like sweet caramel.

At least my phenotype does.

LEDS are not there yet!! not if you are comparing what they produce, how much they cost, how much heat and so on... your' better off with a 400 or 250 HID. unless you're talking
"phototron growing" wow does that ever bring back memories

hell even Florescent lighting works for that matter

ttystikk said:

Here's where it's going to get expensive; having done the legwork and trialled so many lighting combinations, I'm going to give you some advice; spend the money to get the best lighting, for your space that's going to be a 315W LEC (3100K) lamp and ballast. Yes, it's one of the more expensive options but it will last for many years, it will not use excessive power, it won't require extreme measures for cooling and it WILL produce the kind of strong medicine you and your wife need. HPS is a cheap choice you'll end up paying for, they aren't worth it.

The last place to skimp is in lighting, so bite the bullet and get the best. You'll thank me every harvest.

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I echo this idea , do not skimp on lighting or room set up , next to lighting i put fresh air 2nd in the order of importance in my rooms , make sure you think out a good intake & exhaust to keep fresh air in the room .

As for pain relief i know exactly how your back feels , i broke my back , crushed multiple vertibre & herniated & ruptured 4 discs as well as inguring my dural sak , 3rd degree burns on 12% of my body & had 2 fingers amputated , i have steel rods & nuts & bolts holding my back together , i use Indica dominate strains to help with the pain , if your doctor is against pain killers have him prescribe you Lidocaine cream at its max strenght , the pharmacy will custom make it for you , its a good option while your working if you dont want to smoke or use pk's at work.

I was in the union building trades 32 yrs & know the physical demands , especially when i was an industrial roofer , good luck bro & as others have said if you have specific questions there is lotsa excellent growers here to help .

congrats on manning up and taking your health into your own hands. now you know your grower has your best interest in mind
i try not to encourage people to do this, being how the stupid laws are and all.. but am glad when i see it. cause it's the only logical route to do. don't pay a stupid price and rely on someone else when you can do the same (well, likely better) yourself for cheaper.

stay low/small, keep the smells down, get rid of the waste smartly, and DON'T TELL ANYONE.

as for your strains.. one of my all-time favorite smokes is apollo 13, pretty sure that vortex is a relative.
great euphoric 'up' smoke. one of the few with an instant shit eatin grin
i'd vote that, and the afghani.
*keep in mind; the vortex will likely stretch a lot more than the ghani.

you gotta find what works best for you. for my pain; a potent high is better than a crushing stone. you may be completely different and need that crushing stone for any relief though. *why i recommend the two most from each spectrum

if you can, make an oil or an edible so you can function through the day & you won't smell of it. the relief lasts longer than smoking
that's my 2 cents

Ok so I am really starting to like this little hobby, their like watching your first born grow up lol. So I have made the flip about 34 days ago and it has been going pretty good. Water only with super soil and I listened to a lot of your comments and went with the LEC 315 and fresh air with exhaust. Set up a timer relay, heat cool relay with stat and general exhaust that is all ran through a honeywell thermostat/humidstat that I can control from my phone from anywhere.

Also was able to obtain a medical card from a club out in Vancouver that can be hit or miss and I really haven't found anything for the pain, still about 40 more a zip than BM but I know what I am getting and I know what not to use. I like the variety, but a little steep on price.

Anyways I was hoping that you guys could help, I started with two afghani and two G31 (G13 x Reserva Privada OG 1 but the afghani had balls. The G31 are looking good but since this is my first run I have a question or two.

Both girls look completely different, different pheno's? different strains? They looked the same right up till the flip. Tric production on one was almost instant, smaller buds, dense. The other girl slow tric production, bigger airier buds. I have lots to learn so bare with me, is their something I could have done to change bud structure (topping/fim, super crop, watering, heat, cool etc etc.) or are they different strains/pheno's, one girl leaning to the G13 genetics or the Reserva Privada Og 18 genetics.

I appreciate all the help from you guys earlier, makes life easier with suggestions from people that have no other motive but to help the fellow man/girl succeed with their girls.

Any info would be appreciated, I did contact provision seeds and they told me different pheno's. Just looking for a second opinion since I need to find a pain med and would like to have all the info on the strains that I am using/running for my journal. Thanks!!

gb123 said:

LEDS are not there yet!! not if you are comparing what they produce, how much they cost, how much heat and so on... your' better off with a 400 or 250 HID. unless you're talking
"phototron growing" wow does that ever bring back memories

hell even Florescent lighting works for that matter

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BS, COB's (cxa3070 and vero29 to name a couple) produce top quality bud and the heat is almost nonexistent compared to HID heat.U can hold the heat sinks in your hand in most cases while lights are burning. I agree most store bought led's except for the super high end such as Apache don't cut at all. But COB lighting is here to stay. I love my DE HPS and my plants love it to but if i had the money to build a COB to replace a 1000w HID I would do it and take my DE down.

As far as pain goes my mother who I supply naturally is disabled permantly and in pain daily, loves Fireball. This strain was a freebie from Breeders Boutique, they will be selling them soon on their site, not sure if they are available yet though. I don't suffer much pain myself, but I can saw that Fireball has a major body stone, muscle relaxer, everyone loves it who smokes its. Not to mention IMO Breeders Boutique has excellent genetics at some of the best prices. And the breeders are right here on RIU all the time to answer q's personally about their strains. Just my 2cents.
peace and good luck finding a good strain,
green217

im glad to see you cooking your soil!! a super soil will be a solid grow, just add water and its organic, I hope!
interesting, to those whom hide in the shadows, to come out to give a hand!
id say most of those are good, max out \the trichs to a orange state, that will knock ya out and control nerve twitch.
and yes diff phenos. the tall skinny one will prob run ya 12 weeks, looks very sativa, other id say 10 weeks, due to the sativa in in by the leaf. don't worry about much, just watch the trichs, grab a jewelers loop(ebay) to zoom in when its time.
you don't have any issues running a sativa in hot soils? I cut my s-soils by 50% with reg sunshine 4 and it lasts and no burn

Wow great pics! keep them coming!