I'm going back to organics, I do believe I've had enough. (TEA HELP)

Trousers

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The quoted part is just details.

This is my first time growing organic indoors.
I need some tips, especially with teas.

I've been growing hydro for years, coco lately. My whole deal has been to maker things simpler.
When I was mixing nutes I realized, what is simpler than watering with plain water?

Any tips would be appreciated.

I will use the Fox Farms Ocean Forest mix stickied on this page and plan on making some teas.
I will not be starting until after I get back from vacation July 10th or so. I have everything but the greensand. If I mix it with in the next week, it will have a month to sit. (In 5 gallon buckets in my furnace room.)

Water - I have a small pond in the backyard. In previous grows I used the pond water to water the plants with great results.
I can use pond water to make teas as well.

I'm going to grow 3 plants in 3 gallon (I have 5 gallon pots too) super roots air pots under a 600 watt hps in a 3'x3'x6.5' tent. They will probably veg until they are about 1.5', then topped.

I have read more about this subject than is probably needed.

I have two 5 gallon beverage dispensers and a air pump and air stone.
I have some compost, access to a huge pile of 10 year old horse manure. I have kelp and dried algae from my pond...

I was thinking of making some tea and putting it on my vegetable garden to test it out first.
Your favorite tea recipes?
Tea making tips?
Veg teas?
Flower teas?
How often do you feed with teas?
How do I know if my tea should be diluted?
Do you just toss the stuff in the water then strain or do you make it in a panty hose?

I have about 6 weeks until I am ready to go.
 

Trousers

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Thanks, googling it now.
I am looking for tea recipes with measurements. A lot of people just say, "compost, bat guano...)

I am beginning to think I am over thinking this.

I use 2 5gal buckets with 2gal of water in each bucket. Basic aquarium pump with airstone in each bucket.

- 2 tablespoon mexican bat guano
- 2 teaspoon maxicrop soluable seaweed
- 2 tablespoons earthworm castings
- 1/2 tablespoon mollases, another half 12 hours later, then another half 2 hours before feed.
In 5 gals of rainwater I bubble

1 cup of worm castings

for an hour with a fish pump, then add
1 Tbsp molasses
to feed the micro-beasties. They need that O2!
Let the whole thing go for 12-24 hrs to feed the good, aerobic bacteria.
I add 1/4 c of norwegian sea kelp and some fungal supplements as it is about to finish.
 

Trousers

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found the rev's teas on another site. (The search on this site blows)

Vegetative Stage Recipe

* One Gallon Water *: R/O water,rain water,distilled etc. etc.

* One Teaspoon Black Strap Molasses (unsulfured)1-0-5)*:
Be sure to use only the unsulfured variety.This is because sulfur kills microlife,especially fungus (unless it's elemental sulfur in small ratios).

* One Teaspoon liquid Alaskan Fish Fertilizer (5-1-1)*:
Fungus and bacteria both love fish ferts and go nuts reproducing when it's included.

* One Cup Earthworm Castings (vermicompost) or good outdoor compost*:
Vermicompost provides humates,enzymes,protozoa,nemat odes,bacteria,fungus,trace elements,secondary and primary nutrients.

* One Teaspoon Fox Farms Peace Of Mind All Purpose (5-5-5) *:
Food for the microlife that balances the pH of the tea (to about 6.5-7.2).
Flowering Stage Recipes

* One Teaspoon Black Strap Molasses (unsulfured) (1-0-5) *:
An excellent source of potassium during flowering;bacteria prefer these simple sugars,whereas the fungus prefer more complex sugars derived from various organic matter.

* One Teaspoon Fox Farms Peace Of Mind All Purpose (5-5-5) *:
Food for the microlife that balances the pH of the tea (to about 6.5-7.2).

* One Teaspoon High Phosphorous Bat Guano (0-4-0) *:
Fungi love this nutrient and will deliver it to the plant roots.

* One cup Earthworm Castings (vermicompost) or regular compost *:
Good balance of nutrient (trace and secondary).Also a source for microbes and beneficial elements.

* One teaspoon Maxicrop liquid or 1/2 teaspoon water soluble Maxicrop or kelp/seaweed extract (dry) *:
A fungal favorite,this is a key tea ingredient that produces a good ratio of happy fungus.It's also booming with trace elements,some nitrogen,and some potassium.

* 1/4 teaspoon Micronized (soft) Rock Phosphate *:
Fungus attach to the rock phosphate and grow on it.Also a prime source for phosphorous,magnesium & sulfur.
Fungus Dominant (halfway through flowering) Recipes

* 1/2 cup Earthworm Castings *:
See above.

* 1/2 cup Mushroom Compost *:
This is fungus waiting to happen.A rich source of fungal spores and dense organic matter that fungi like to eat.

* Two tablespoons Powdered,100% Natural rolled oats *:
Fungi love this nutrient and will deliver it to the plant roots.

* Two teaspoons Kelp Meal *:
I use kelp meal for several reasons.It's organic matter that fungi like to attach themselves to.Fungi love kelp extracts as a primary food source and the rich trace elements and potassium it introduces.

* 1/4 teaspoon Micronized (soft) Rock Phosphate *:
Fungus attach to the rock phosphate and grow on it.Also a prime source of phosphorous,magnesium and sulfur.

The earthworm castings,mushroom compost,oatmeal,and kelp meal are first mixed together and made very wet.After fungus has grown on this blend,place it in your tea bubbler for 24 hours with some additional liquid (or water soluble) kelp/seaweed extract and Micronized (soft) rock phosphate.
Seedling Brew (less than 4 weeks old):
5 TBS Black Strap Molasses
1 cup Earth Worm Castings
5 tsp. Liquid Kelp Extract
5 Gallons of Water

Feed every 3rd watering with no dilution needed.

Vegetative Brew:
1/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano (careful, this stuff burns easily!)
1/3 cup Mexican Bat Guano
1/3 cup Earth Worm Castings
1/2 cup alfalfa meal
5 TBS Black Strap Molasses
5 TBS Liquid Kelp Extract
Optional: 2-5 TBS Fish Emulsion (depending on how strong you want it)

Feed every 3rd watering at 2 cups per 5 gallons water

Flowering Brew:
2/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano
1 cup Earth Worm Castings
2/3 cup Indonesian Bat Guano (High P)
1/2 cup alfalfa meal
5 TBS Black Strap Molasses
5 TBS Liquid Kelp Extract

Feed Every 3rd watering 3 cups per 5 gallons water.
 

tomascat

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u have all the recipes for great soil and will do well. imo u cant overdo alfalfa, ewc, kelp meal. I don't measure that closely either. I just chopped a girl and dumped the soil in my Rubbermaid container I add a cup of everything I have in the pot and mix. ur not gonna hurt it staying organic
 

Rising Moon

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Teas are fun, and I am a HUGE tea geek, but in all honesty, teas are best used as a SUPPLEMENTARY feeding, or when you feel you need/want to boost a particular aspect of your plant/soil.

The BEST results I have ever gotten (8+ years of organic growing) have been from a simple, balanced soil mix.

I now use teas very specifically, like an herbal prescription in a way, but also like a symphony of subtle botanical elements...

That being said, running a balanced soil mix and only needing to add filtered water makes life easy, and the plants do their thing just like they are supposed to.

Check out the ROLS sticky, and consider the idea of making your own, high quality, cheap, bulk LIVING organic soil.

That way teas will be more of a fun bonus thing, as opposed to RELYING on them.

And you wont be relying on crappy bagged soil, with NPK ratings all over the charts batch to batch...

Peace, Welcome back to Organics!

RM
 
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