I'm in need to Experiment..I'm getting bored of substances
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RetiredToker76
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Wow very complex thread ... Everything from addiction concerns to concepts as deep as chemically induced transcendental meditation...
The funny thing is I'm completely bi-polar concerning this subject.
I've been where Spazstic was and I understand puffpuffed point of view. While I agree with everyone else about the experimental side as well.....
I never got as bad as Spazstic, but I was strung out on various pills Ludes primarily but any depressant I could find I took along with coke, weed, and LSD pretty much always taken as a cocktail on a daily basis. I got off all of the above through self induced solitary confinement, it REALLY sucked.
I wasn't really chemically addicted to any of the above, thankfully I stayed away from Meth, Crack, and Heroine, but I was very psychologically dependant on being constantly altered. I honestly believed that life wasn't worth living in a sober state. Then I realized that not only did no one know me, but I didn't even know me. I started using stuff when I was 13, when my life went to shit at 14 I went full throttle into anything that would get me out of reality, to this day I only have flashes of my entire puberty.
I cleaned up at 18 by, of all stupid things, starting college. Private room, summer courses, very few social contacts, and no interest in drinking. Mostly I was in the classroom or dorm and never ventured out anywhere else. I dealt with a lot of personal issues durring that time, caught up on music and movies, and for the first time in a very long time, passed everything I took.
I just recently started toking again. Mostly I try to use it medically to treat my insomnia and if I can 'feel' a developing migraine soon enough a few vape hits will stop it from developing. When I first toked after quitting 14 years ago I experienced every drug I ever took all at once, just from 3 hits off a bong. I was gone for over 15 hours and stuck in this strange meditative state where thought, time, space, ceased to exist and the only thing I could feel was the music. (Sorry I'm a musician and tend to have music themed experiences.)
Thankfully the highs started to mellow, after I toked up every night for 2 months straight, I was escaping reality again and I realized it so I stopped. Now I'm more casual, maybe once or twice a week at most for my insomnia and I just 'suffer' from the other 5 or 6 nights of no sleep.
Since I went monk-like in college I ventured into 'other' mind altering practices. Deep meditation, astral projection, and of course sensory deprevation. They all produced a trip of some kind with absolutely no drugs at all. They were FAR more difficult to achieve than scoring some LSD or weed, but the self induced trip was incredible. Anyone who appreciates LSD or Peote I would highly reccomend a couple hours in a sensory deprevation chamber, the power of your mind is much cooler than the power of hallucinagenic drugs.
I always worry about 'the next cool triip' because I know sober or not I will gladly chase it. Skydiving, Scuba diving, bungee jumping, hang gliding, I've done all of the above to chase those natural highs. I chased the chemical highs as escapism and chased the natural ones as life experiences. To me they're all the same, at the end of the day I advocate an excess of moderation.
-RT76
The funny thing is I'm completely bi-polar concerning this subject.
I've been where Spazstic was and I understand puffpuffed point of view. While I agree with everyone else about the experimental side as well.....
I never got as bad as Spazstic, but I was strung out on various pills Ludes primarily but any depressant I could find I took along with coke, weed, and LSD pretty much always taken as a cocktail on a daily basis. I got off all of the above through self induced solitary confinement, it REALLY sucked.
I wasn't really chemically addicted to any of the above, thankfully I stayed away from Meth, Crack, and Heroine, but I was very psychologically dependant on being constantly altered. I honestly believed that life wasn't worth living in a sober state. Then I realized that not only did no one know me, but I didn't even know me. I started using stuff when I was 13, when my life went to shit at 14 I went full throttle into anything that would get me out of reality, to this day I only have flashes of my entire puberty.
I cleaned up at 18 by, of all stupid things, starting college. Private room, summer courses, very few social contacts, and no interest in drinking. Mostly I was in the classroom or dorm and never ventured out anywhere else. I dealt with a lot of personal issues durring that time, caught up on music and movies, and for the first time in a very long time, passed everything I took.
I just recently started toking again. Mostly I try to use it medically to treat my insomnia and if I can 'feel' a developing migraine soon enough a few vape hits will stop it from developing. When I first toked after quitting 14 years ago I experienced every drug I ever took all at once, just from 3 hits off a bong. I was gone for over 15 hours and stuck in this strange meditative state where thought, time, space, ceased to exist and the only thing I could feel was the music. (Sorry I'm a musician and tend to have music themed experiences.)
Thankfully the highs started to mellow, after I toked up every night for 2 months straight, I was escaping reality again and I realized it so I stopped. Now I'm more casual, maybe once or twice a week at most for my insomnia and I just 'suffer' from the other 5 or 6 nights of no sleep.
Since I went monk-like in college I ventured into 'other' mind altering practices. Deep meditation, astral projection, and of course sensory deprevation. They all produced a trip of some kind with absolutely no drugs at all. They were FAR more difficult to achieve than scoring some LSD or weed, but the self induced trip was incredible. Anyone who appreciates LSD or Peote I would highly reccomend a couple hours in a sensory deprevation chamber, the power of your mind is much cooler than the power of hallucinagenic drugs.
I always worry about 'the next cool triip' because I know sober or not I will gladly chase it. Skydiving, Scuba diving, bungee jumping, hang gliding, I've done all of the above to chase those natural highs. I chased the chemical highs as escapism and chased the natural ones as life experiences. To me they're all the same, at the end of the day I advocate an excess of moderation.
-RT76
puffpuffPASSEDOUT
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I love how we have so much in common RT, Same with Spazstic. Awesome posts guys... Im glad im not the only one who realizes the power and evil temptations that reside within our own minds 
DudeLebowski
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ding ding ding
Thats what happend to me, so i drink a few beers and smoke some weed
no more drugs for this guy