I'm so bad at growing....
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Nope_49595933949
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I don't know how else to help other than literal step by step instructions.
farmerfischer
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You got to excuse some of use.. there has been way to many sock accounts and trolls baiting with threads like this..
LeastExpectedGrower
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I sincerely apologize if your intent wasn't to troll, but I can't see how this reply can be seen in any other way than assholish, even upon re-reading the interaction.
...Since we both know who the OP is, and we're both trying to help him, and we both know that he's not watering effectively. My post actually agrees with yours and adds more detail of how I water similarly.
LeastExpectedGrower
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Note that you still haven't provided more information to figure out where things are going wrong.
LeastExpectedGrower
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Note that the OP hasn't posted enough of the details of his grow in a meaningful sense, even when asked a few times. There's no help if people don't have the info about what he's doing to be able to figure it out. I even when through both of his grow journal posts to see if there were details and there weren't.
Note that you still haven't provided more information to figure out where things are going wrong.
A pic of my PH meter. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
These plants are going to be shit canned. I have to start a new crop. You have a pretty good idea, figure out the problem then grow lush plants. Who can argue against that philosophy?
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LeastExpectedGrower
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Cool. Is your bluelab calibrated correctly with both 7.0 and 4.0 fluid (aka has the pH mark in the lower right corner of the screen with a check mark). What is your pH reading? What is the EC of the water you're using. What temperature is the water you're using?
Is the floor you're sitting your plants/tent on warm? Often in basements, garages, etc. plants need to be raised off the floor or your root zone is going to be too cool.
ProPheT 216
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The meter was calibrated using the special calibration fluids but I can't speak to the calibration of the fluids or the calibration of my PH meter as it's all branded the same. You know how it goes. The meter spec'ed.
Foam board on the floor of the tent > the tent liner on top of the foam board > the plants sit on foil in a cardboard box. All reflective sides up and the floor is poured concrete in a basement.
The thermometer I use lays flat on the floor and not on foil or cardboard. Root zones should be minimum 72°F. I could put one of the plants on top of the thermometer for better accuracy.
LeastExpectedGrower
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The meter was calibrated using the special calibration fluids but I can't speak to the calibration of the fluids or the calibration of my PH meter as it's all branded the same. You know how it goes. The meter spec'ed.
Foam board on the floor of the tent > the tent liner on top of the foam board > the plants sit on foil in a cardboard box. All reflective sides up and the floor is poured concrete in a basement.
The thermometer I use lays flat on the floor and not on foil or cardboard. Root zones should be minimum 72°F. I could put one of the plants on top of the thermometer for better accuracy.
I think you could aim a bit warmer for the roots.
What is your water pH, and what is it's EC?
weedstoner420
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OP do the cups have holes in the bottom?
Those plants are looking pretty seriously bad, as you admit. I actually looked at your journal(s), it sounds like they're in decent enough soil, too small to really need fertilizer at this point, and I guess your environment is acceptable, although not ideal. I can't think of anything that could mess them up that badly at this stage other than something watering-related.
I would strongly suggest learning to judge soil moisture by feeling the weight of the pot (or cup). For containers that small, it's really the only way. Take one container and fill it with dry soil straight from the bag, that is your gauge for "dry" weight. Then take some soil and wet it until when you squeeze a clump of it in your fist, only one or two drops of water comes out. Fill another container with that and feel the weight. You want your plants to be somewhere in between those two at all times.
If you start over, get some 3 or 4 inch square nursery pots, they are both more idiot-proof and more reusable than cups.
And ditch the aluminum foil under the pots, it's not helping anything. I would actually not want the roots touching that at all, which they definitely do when the cups are directly on it (assuming there are holes in the cups).
Good luck!
Those plants are looking pretty seriously bad, as you admit. I actually looked at your journal(s), it sounds like they're in decent enough soil, too small to really need fertilizer at this point, and I guess your environment is acceptable, although not ideal. I can't think of anything that could mess them up that badly at this stage other than something watering-related.
I would strongly suggest learning to judge soil moisture by feeling the weight of the pot (or cup). For containers that small, it's really the only way. Take one container and fill it with dry soil straight from the bag, that is your gauge for "dry" weight. Then take some soil and wet it until when you squeeze a clump of it in your fist, only one or two drops of water comes out. Fill another container with that and feel the weight. You want your plants to be somewhere in between those two at all times.
If you start over, get some 3 or 4 inch square nursery pots, they are both more idiot-proof and more reusable than cups.
And ditch the aluminum foil under the pots, it's not helping anything. I would actually not want the roots touching that at all, which they definitely do when the cups are directly on it (assuming there are holes in the cups).
Good luck!
Django66
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One and only ignored. lol
Django66
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Try plain promix in solo cups with 5 or more holes for drainage. Germinate seeds however you feel most comfortable doing it. Plant them root down and water with a spray bottle. A spray bottle will give you better control of how much water you're giving. (ex.10 sprays) If you are still unsure you could weigh the cup when it is moist. When you water it should weigh the same. Also I like to spray around the edges of the cup to promote roots to seek water. I wouldn't bother with a PH meter. I sprouted seeds with Evian ph 7.4 distilled water ph 5.2 and Life Water ph 9.5+. They even sprouted using Pelligrino Sparkling Mineral water. Cool science. Toys are fun. I just bought a CO2 meter.
ALPHA.GanjaGuy
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When you check PH does your pen show a check mark on the screen? If not it's time to re-calibrate.
ALPHA.GanjaGuy
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What about during lights out?
Also, unrelated but I was just checking your other thread and I would suggest, one seed/plant per cup. You may have also damaged the last batch as you started them several in a cup and then split them up. That creates a fair bit of stress on a seedling that has barely established roots to begin with.
I wonder if you are "over-caring" which many of us are guilty of at one point or another with our plants.
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