IMPEACH obama 2009

what... huh?

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I guess you are unaware that it was the democrats who made marijuana illegal.

Guess you didn't know that the 75th congress was a democrat majority in both house and senate, under Roosevelt (D). (Marhiuana tax act of 1937)

Or that it was again a democratic majority in both house and senate which passed the Controlled Substances Act in '70. (91st Congress)

Or that democrats sponsored both of those bills... or that Anslinger himself (the man who killed marijuanna) was a democrat. It was he who is always quoted talking about the mexicans and negroes, and generated all the propaganda you are all so fond of quoting (refer madness, etc).

Yes, Reagan created the war on drugs... but... why is marijuana a drug?

I guess you folks are also unaware that the KKK was spewed forth onto this earth by the democratic party, with the sole purpose of intimidating Republicans. To frighten them into not voting... that was their purpose, and probably the reason the first Grand Wizard of the KKK was honored at the Democratic National Convention. Nobody told you in school that they served as the strong arm of the Democratic party during the reconstruction era... you know... after the civil war... Abe Lincoln (R)? Or that Jim Crow laws were birthed of the democrats, and EVENTUALLY defeated by republicans. Republicans also had that anti-lynching legislation... which the dems fought tooth an nail. The civil rights act of 64 you might mention... as the democrats do whenever they get a chance. 60% of democrats voted for it... as opposed to 80% of republicans.

And, of course, there was that emancipation proclamation, and subsequent 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments which abolished slavery, gave equal protection and rights to vote for blacks... so... yeah... there's that. I expect the Klan did vote red this year... ya know... considering.

Anybody remember senior Senator Byrd? Former senate leader of the democratic party? KKK member?

He is STILL in the senate.


By all means... preach to me the racism and drug phobias of the republican party.
 

natrone23

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Now google the "Dixiecrats" and "southern strategy".


I wonder why the south left the democratic party hmmmmmm:roll:
 

what... huh?

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The democrats left the south only when the number of race based political swing was negligible enough to suffer their loss... some 50 years ago. The remaining dixiecrats who were absorbed into the Republican party was an even more negligible amount. Democrats didn't cut the racism out of their platform until they could afford it, under Truman... which is why you still have Byrd hanging around.

The entire history of the democratic party is of bigotry and hatred. Show me some racist republican stances please. Democrats now? Still fucking bigots. Affirmative action IS by definition racist, and presumes that if you are black or a woman, you are unable to achieve success without "help".

Tigers don't change their stripes... sometimes their environment just makes them harder to see.



*Now don't get me wrong... I am not a republican... but FFS the bullshit that people choose to believe is just overwhelming. If anyone has heralded the cause of blacks, it has been republicans... and if anyone is to blame for prohibition... it is the democrats. History is history. Fuck spin.
 

natrone23

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The parties have changed alot, there not the same party as 50 years ago and espically 150 years ago.


Remember what LBJ said when he signed the civil rights act

"We have lost the south for generation"
 

ChChoda

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Im not left or right.The KKK votes right.Go to youtube and you can see all kinds of racist from the right.I live in a state that votes right.
You ever hear of a current senator by the name of Robert Byrd? How about a former governor named Bull Connor? D D D D D... Just sayin...


Homey don't play that.



PS- Stealing my thunder, Huh?:rolleyes:
 

Hayduke

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The parties have changed alot, there not the same party as 50 years ago and espically 150 years ago.


Remember what LBJ said when he signed the civil rights act

"We have lost the south for generation"
Exactly. What, did all those racist dems leave the south for...Massachusetts? The parties have fundamentally changed several times...The neo-con push to attract the near illiterate with spin is only the latest....yeah now we have evil racist democrats trying to kill the poor and minorities with access to health care....it is like crack...if you put it into the cities, they will use it...

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ChChoda

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Exactly. What, did all those racist dems leave the south for...Massachusetts? The parties have fundamentally changed several times...The neo-con push to attract the near illiterate with spin is only the latest....yeah now we have evil racist democrats trying to kill the poor and minorities with access to health care....it is like crack...if you put it into the cities, they will use it...

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They're not trying to kill, they are. Through dependence. "Let me be the crutch you don't need."
 

jrh72582

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The democrats left the south only when the number of race based political swing was negligible enough to suffer their loss... some 50 years ago. The remaining dixiecrats who were absorbed into the Republican party was an even more negligible amount. Democrats didn't cut the racism out of their platform until they could afford it, under Truman... which is why you still have Byrd hanging around.

The entire history of the democratic party is of bigotry and hatred. Show me some racist republican stances please. Democrats now? Still fucking bigots. Affirmative action IS by definition racist, and presumes that if you are black or a woman, you are unable to achieve success without "help".

Tigers don't change their stripes... sometimes their environment just makes them harder to see.



*Now don't get me wrong... I am not a republican... but FFS the bullshit that people choose to believe is just overwhelming. If anyone has heralded the cause of blacks, it has been republicans... and if anyone is to blame for prohibition... it is the democrats. History is history. Fuck spin.
Ever hear of Strom Thurmon? Easily the MOST racist man in government EVER! Republican.

Even though it's a moot point. One party alone is not responsible for racism. It's just that republicans hate minorities:shock::mrgreen:.
 

ChChoda

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Ever hear of Strom Thurmon? Easily the MOST racist man in government EVER! Republican.

Even though it's a moot point. One party alone is not responsible for racism. It's just that republicans hate minorities:shock::mrgreen:.
A Democrat first, when it counted, in the Jim Crow days. Succeeded by Lindsay Graham, one of my least favorite Repukes. An isle crossing moderate bastard.
 

SDSativa

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So we should spend money on people to incarcerate them but we should not spend money on there health?

Wow the heritage foundation and the washington post had something negative to say about Obama...breaking news.

Republicans do not care about marriage and family values, that is just what they want everyone to think. They are fake. There fight against gay peoples right to play house is based out of intolerance at best and at times out right hate. This is frosted over with religious rhetoric and "family values" what a bunch of sh!t.

Your parroted message of the protestant work ethic does work for some...however, as much as the successful would like to believe that they got that way out of shear perseverance, most of the time circumstances, and good fortune are equal factors...often outright devious and underhanded business practices which take advantage of the vulnerable...stepping up by stepping on.

Do you really think that poor people do not work hard? You are either young and not yet fledged or have been fortunate. I am sure the "top 5%" appreciate your hard work.

Hey wait a minute....Any taxation is a redistribution of wealth (or poverty).

Think outside the Fox.

Oh and to answer the question about congress and their coverage...of course it is much better...should they get better care? No. Is crappy healthcare that you have to wait in huge lines for horrible care, better than no care at all? Absofreakinlutely!

What we really need to do is to put up a fence along the Canadian boarder to stop all those damn hinge headed cannuks from flooding over our boarders to spend perfectly good loons on our kickass healthcare...Damn socialists! They took our Docs!!!

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Yes, if people commit crimes they need to be punished. And just because our prisons are overcrowded doesn't mean the crimes people are committing don't matter. If we would get rid of the illegal immigrants and execute the murderers, we just might have some more room.
And there is nothing hateful in believing in nature. A man and a woman make a child. Period. Homosexuals have all the rights of regular citizens. There is absolutely no reason for these people to try to force their lifestyle on the majority. Most people don't agree with it. The polls have shown it time and time again, yet, our noble judiciary system will dismess our pleas and enact this monstrosity. Don't you love California democracy!
This is America. If you work hard you succeed. Why is this concept so hard to understand. The only excuse anyone can have for not being succesful is laziness. Don't blame others for your misfortunes. Cause if you don't like where you are in life, change it.
I know poor people work hard. I come from a single mother family with 1 sister. My father was has been in prison my whole life, and my mother has worked her ass off for as long as I can remember. And yes, I am a young adult. But like most other Americans, I want to go somewhere in life. I decided to join the Marine Corps after high school and am currently working hard for a degree. I am not rich. I am far from it. But I plan on being rich one day, and this dream gives me all I need to work my ass off. To provide for my family. Its not noble to have somebody else take care of you, yet all you libs jump on the bandwagon on any government handout. Here's an idea. WORK FOR YOURSELF. Don't be DEPENDANT but INDEPENDANT. Take charge of your own life.
And if you think the Canadian or British healthcare systems are so great, why do their government officials get care in the U.S?
 

hanimmal

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Yes, if people commit crimes they need to be punished. And just because our prisons are overcrowded doesn't mean the crimes people are committing don't matter. If we would get rid of the illegal immigrants and execute the murderers, we just might have some more room.
It amazes me that we are one of the very few countries in the world where the indigenous people are considered illegal immigrants. How about we actually help them turn their lives around and not just say 'don't mess up again and we won't have to ground you". How many poor drug crimes are in there, or theft. Those are more a issue with poverty and we should help them to imporve their lives instead we dump them back out.

And we need to drop prison for people using having drugs. It is a drain on our country and serves noone.

And there is nothing hateful in believing in nature. A man and a woman make a child. Period. Homosexuals have all the rights of regular citizens. There is absolutely no reason for these people to try to force their lifestyle on the majority. Most people don't agree with it. The polls have shown it time and time again, yet, our noble judiciary system will dismess our pleas and enact this monstrosity. Don't you love California democracy!
This is so ignorant. How are they 'pushing' their lifestyle on you? Are they trying to nail you? Did they kidnap you or send you a letter asking for you to meet up with them? It is horseshit. They cannot adopt kids that are orphans in some states, they cannot get the same rights as married couples in most states (think insurance, hospital rights, inheritance), and are forced to keep quiet in the military (while everyone else is talking about their girls back home they have to either pretend or say nothing which is bullshit for people putting themselves on the line).

But at the same time I feel that marriage is stupid for the government to get involved in. It should simply be a partnership with the perimeters already laid out. Leave the ceremonial garbage to the churches.

And in nature there are homosexual animals. Males dogs will hump on other male dogs.

This is America. If you work hard you succeed. Why is this concept so hard to understand. The only excuse anyone can have for not being succesful is laziness. Don't blame others for your misfortunes. Cause if you don't like where you are in life, change it.
I know poor people work hard. I come from a single mother family with 1 sister. My father was has been in prison my whole life, and my mother has worked her ass off for as long as I can remember. And yes, I am a young adult. But like most other Americans, I want to go somewhere in life. I decided to join the Marine Corps after high school and am currently working hard for a degree. I am not rich. I am far from it. But I plan on being rich one day, and this dream gives me all I need to work my ass off. To provide for my family. Its not noble to have somebody else take care of you, yet all you libs jump on the bandwagon on any government handout. Here's an idea. WORK FOR YOURSELF. Don't be DEPENDANT but INDEPENDANT. Take charge of your own life.
And if you think the Canadian or British healthcare systems are so great, why do their government officials get care in the U.S?
Last first name them and why they were here to get them and we can discuss that.

Second thank you for serving.

And it is good that people work so hard. But let me ask you what would happen if you got into a car accident and stuck in the hospital for 6 months dealing with rehab. Most people would be screwed. There are a unlimited amount of reason that people lose everything. But I agree with stupidity being the number 1 reason.

We need to change our whole culture that in school the captain of the wrestling team is able to get away with everything and treated well by the student teachers and neighborhood, while the kid who works hard and is ignored.
 

Hayduke

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There is really so much wrong with this post but Hannimal addressed it for the most part. And dude I live in N. County and worked at Pendleton for 5 years. I totally respect Marines, and the sacrifices they and their families make for little compensation.


Yes, if people commit crimes they need to be punished. And just because our prisons are overcrowded doesn't mean the crimes people are committing don't matter. If we would get rid of the illegal immigrants and execute the murderers, we just might have some more room.

This is America. If you work hard you succeed. The only excuse anyone can have for not being succesful is laziness.
I know poor people work hard. I come from a single mother family with 1 sister.[...] my mother has worked her ass off for as long as I can remember.
Just a couple of things that I feel need to be addressed...Crimes that involve incarceration, by nature should require a victim. Drug crimes in general are victimless crimes. Our courts continue to slowly release men that have been incarcerated for years, who are innocent. This IS a crime. So long as the possibility of this CRIME, I can no longer support capitol punishment.

Secondly, your mother works her ass off...therefore she is not lazy...I also assume she is not rich? If so then your statement is highly contradictory...and that is ok, we were all taught this...but it is just not true. Success and especially wealth, though maybe simple, this is the trick that keeps the stratification in society. Rich people do not work hard they work _________. We all know the cliché.

Also it is propaganda that "LIBS" are all on welfare...again a smokescreen to hide the real drain on the coffers...Our Imperialism. Also that anyone who does not join the Anti-Gay marriage/Anti-Abortion/Anti-Healthcare/Anti-Terrorism/Anti-Obama, Anti-Coalition must be a liberal.

I have always been a Libertarian...not the NeoCon pissed at Bush so I invaded a party that believes in limited Gov. rather that partisan pissing matches and feeding the millitary-techno-industrial beast to the beat of the EIB drum...what a bunch of tool sheep!

Rich republicans always accept their social security checks, Medi-Care and all the prescription plans that go with it, and pay dues to the lobbyists who make sure that no one will take this "entitlement" away from them ...AARP. They take these programs which are designed to take care of those who may fall through the cracks of this finest country. They are not meant for extra spending money or to protect family assets from paying for medical insurance care for an aging population. This form of socialized medicine and welfare seems to be acceptable by all, and refused by none. I do not understand how we do not want to provide care for children, but will use all sorts of drugs and surgeries to keep the elderly healthy enough to mail in their ballots.


Unfortunately I will not have the opportunity to receive the benefits I have paid for even if I need them.

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SDSativa

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It amazes me that we are one of the very few countries in the world where the indigenous people are considered illegal immigrants. How about we actually help them turn their lives around and not just say 'don't mess up again and we won't have to ground you". How many poor drug crimes are in there, or theft. Those are more a issue with poverty and we should help them to imporve their lives instead we dump them back out.

And we need to drop prison for people using having drugs. It is a drain on our country and serves noone.



This is so ignorant. How are they 'pushing' their lifestyle on you? Are they trying to nail you? Did they kidnap you or send you a letter asking for you to meet up with them? It is horseshit. They cannot adopt kids that are orphans in some states, they cannot get the same rights as married couples in most states (think insurance, hospital rights, inheritance), and are forced to keep quiet in the military (while everyone else is talking about their girls back home they have to either pretend or say nothing which is bullshit for people putting themselves on the line).

But at the same time I feel that marriage is stupid for the government to get involved in. It should simply be a partnership with the perimeters already laid out. Leave the ceremonial garbage to the churches.

And in nature there are homosexual animals. Males dogs will hump on other male dogs.



Last first name them and why they were here to get them and we can discuss that.

Second thank you for serving.

And it is good that people work so hard. But let me ask you what would happen if you got into a car accident and stuck in the hospital for 6 months dealing with rehab. Most people would be screwed. There are a unlimited amount of reason that people lose everything. But I agree with stupidity being the number 1 reason.

We need to change our whole culture that in school the captain of the wrestling team is able to get away with everything and treated well by the student teachers and neighborhood, while the kid who works hard and is ignored.
People who come into this country illegally are illegal immagrants. They are breaking the law and do not deserve the same benefits as a citizen. And for those of you who don't believe in border security, why don't you take down the walls to your house. You would not let somebody into your house with your children without knowing who they are. If we ran this country like we run our households, the results would be a lot better.
And why is it our responsibility to take care of somebody else? If you screw up, take the punishment. I know I work hard for what I have, and to have somebody that isn't working, steal from me is pathetic. And then you make an excuse for them, saying, well their poor, and you shouldn't complain you have more than them. People get where they are by their own choices in life. You can't help somebody that isn't helping themselves. And we shouldn't care when that heroin addict dies in the street or is put in the hospital and WE the taxpayer support him.
They are pushing their lifestyle on us by forcing us to except homosexual marriage. I live in CA, and we have voted against this proposal several times, yet the voice of the people will not be heard. So yeah, I would say they are forcing it on me. I believe it is wrong to raise a child in a homosexual household. If they were a normal person, and accepted the laws of nature, they can bring a child into this world on their own. But don't take somebody elses kid and destroy their morals.
And thats what marriage is. It is a holy union before god. Most gays don't believe in god, and even attack him, yet they have no problem taking an oath before him. Government stay out of my church. God has laid the perimeters, its just up to us to follow them.And animals don't form homosexual relationships. A dog humping another dog is a far cry from being gay.
It is tragic when a person is seriously injured, but the self sufficient person is always prepared. People don't realize that in good times, you can not go crazy and buy whatever you want. Why do people on welfare have tvs, computers, whatever? They can't support themselves, yet they can't miss "American Idol." Bad things happen to everybody, but it is up to no one else but yourself to recover.
 

SDSativa

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Just a couple of things that I feel need to be addressed...Crimes that involve incarceration, by nature should require a victim. Drug crimes in general are victimless crimes. Our courts continue to slowly release men that have been incarcerated for years, who are innocent. This IS a crime. So long as the possibility of this CRIME, I can no longer support capitol punishment.

Secondly, your mother works her ass off...therefore she is not lazy...I also assume she is not rich? If so then your statement is highly contradictory...and that is ok, we were all taught this...but it is just not true. Success and especially wealth, though maybe simple, this is the trick that keeps the stratification in society. Rich people do not work hard they work _________. We all know the cliché.

Also it is propaganda that "LIBS" are all on welfare...again a smokescreen to hide the real drain on the coffers...Our Imperialism. Also that anyone who does not join the Anti-Gay marriage/Anti-Abortion/Anti-Healthcare/Anti-Terrorism/Anti-Obama, Anti-Coalition must be a liberal.

I have always been a Libertarian...not the NeoCon pissed at Bush so I invaded a party that believes in limited Gov. rather that partisan pissing matches and feeding the millitary-techno-industrial beast to the beat of the EIB drum...what a bunch of tool sheep!

Rich republicans always accept their social security checks, Medi-Care and all the prescription plans that go with it, and pay dues to the lobbyists who make sure that no one will take this "entitlement" away from them ...AARP. They take these programs which are designed to take care of those who may fall through the cracks of this finest country. They are not meant for extra spending money or to protect family assets from paying for medical insurance care for an aging population. This form of socialized medicine and welfare seems to be acceptable by all, and refused by none. I do not understand how we do not want to provide care for children, but will use all sorts of drugs and surgeries to keep the elderly healthy enough to mail in their ballots.


Unfortunately I will not have the opportunity to receive the benefits I have paid for even if I need them.

If you were truly a libertarian we would not have an issue. And you really sound Bi-partisan with all of your liberal supporting conservative hating remarks. Nice try. Don't even try to play that crap that you believe limited government, and ACTUALLY support the constitution.:spew:
 

Hayduke

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Answer my question please.

You misunderstand me. My political beliefs are actually much closer to the idea of anarchy (not the punk rock kind) without the stealing. I am unemployed and refuse to accept unemployment (never have).

I see the BS that comes out of the right as scripted and often with a racist undertone.

I do not think that our Gov owes us anything...as long as they expect the same.

I think taxation is unconstitutional.

I voted for Ron Paul.

I also understand that this is the system that we have.

Being that the case, if we spend one damn cent on foreign citizens and foreign countries we should (this seems intuitive) spend at least as much on our own citizens if not more.

Again I do not think any income should be taken from a citizen and given to someone else. I especially do not think that our money should be taken and redistributed to Monsanto, Con-Agra, ADM, Mcdonald Douglas, Boeing, or our public land leased for pennies to oil and gas and mining or welfare western cattle ranchers...I also though I am almost as sympathetic to the peoples of the rest of the world, do not think we should be spending money to destroy and or re-build foreign countries. If they have resources that we need and negotiating is not working...well ingenuity should have already solved the problem.

When I speak against the right, it is because what they spout is such BS.

When I speak up for the left, it is because as a human, it is often the compassionate path...like gay marriage. You say they have the same rights as other citizens, well that is what they want. Making a big deal about it...makes a big deal about it. They are not forcing anything on you (unless you want them too:shock:) All the stuff about family and our culture is just rhetoric and total BS.

And as far as accusing me of being "Bi-Partisan"...(this is a bad thing?) I am actually being Oligo-Partisan...we can hardly divide our diversity merely in two...this is a major issue in politics along with the electoral college.

As far as the boarder goes...Again as sympathetic as I am to other peoples...OUR people need the help first. We are over-populated, under-employed and under-paid. The previous republican administration encouraged this invasion with their diplomacy with Vicente...after Ronnie Ray-gun gave millions of their family amnesty and the go ahead to bring in more cheap labor (anti-union/pro republican). Latinos supported Bush in 2004 for this but despite their own racism and love for another open boarder friend McPalin...are even more sexist, and real suckers for Cesar Chavez rally cries.

Since you are in SD, you are probably aware of the fact that it is not Canadians flooding over the boarder for US healthcare...But US citizens crossing the Boarder for Mexican Doctors.

As a 13th generation American and descendant of a signer of the Declaration of Independence, this troubles me.

Again should we spend money on health care? probably not. But how can it be justified to give money to foreign governments and foreign wars or corporate subsidies and banker bailouts when the common citizen wants for basic necessities?

The powers that be want this chaos taking place right now...so what is it that we are not seeing while seemingly average citizens are behaving like baffoons at town hall meetings? Is it Afghanistan? Is it the move to audit the Fed? Is it to take our minds off of the economy? Or is it far more sinister?

Also I assume that you smoke Cannabis...Are you a criminal that deserves to go to prison? Of course you are not...you are a freaking hero! As a human, this is another injustice that needs to be righted in order for us to be a legitimate free country...incarceration for victimless crimes is criminal.

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hanimmal

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People who come into this country illegally are illegal immagrants. They are breaking the law and do not deserve the same benefits as a citizen. And for those of you who don't believe in border security, why don't you take down the walls to your house. You would not let somebody into your house with your children without knowing who they are. If we ran this country like we run our households, the results would be a lot better.
It is amazing how people are so locked up into there own prisons. I have not locked my doors for years and have not been ripped off yet. It may one day happen, but living my life without being constantly paranoid is a nice place to be.

If they have a job, been living here for years then they have proved to be a use to the nation, why not make them citizens? Many of those people actually pay taxes, even though it is through fake social security numbers.

And why is it our responsibility to take care of somebody else? If you screw up, take the punishment. I know I work hard for what I have, and to have somebody that isn't working, steal from me is pathetic. And then you make an excuse for them, saying, well their poor, and you shouldn't complain you have more than them. People get where they are by their own choices in life. You can't help somebody that isn't helping themselves. And we shouldn't care when that heroin addict dies in the street or is put in the hospital and WE the taxpayer support him.
Who are you talking about here? I will assume you mean people on welfare.

It is not them that is important. It is their children who we need to help. Those kids have a chance to one day move up in society by working hard and becoming educated. And when they do what happens? They pay into the system and more than pay back what they used to get to where they will be.

And without that system in place that people do take advantage of, it would not be possible to change your situation in life.

They are pushing their lifestyle on us by forcing us to except homosexual marriage. I live in CA, and we have voted against this proposal several times, yet the voice of the people will not be heard. So yeah, I would say they are forcing it on me. I believe it is wrong to raise a child in a homosexual household. If they were a normal person, and accepted the laws of nature, they can bring a child into this world on their own. But don't take somebody elses kid and destroy their morals.
See again your looking at this through your narrow homophobic eyes. They are not pushing anything onto you. You are not affected by marriage laws. You see you can get married and have everything that that entails. You are forcing them to conform to what you want. You are forcing your lifestyle onto them. You are backwards.

And your morals suck. You don't realize that you are happier with a kid being forced to live in a foster home where there is very little benefits awarded to them, like education and love, than to be placed in a loving caring household that will afford them everything that they need to succeed in life. All because your a bigot.

And thats what marriage is. It is a holy union before god. Most gays don't believe in god, and even attack him, yet they have no problem taking an oath before him. Government stay out of my church. God has laid the perimeters, its just up to us to follow them.And animals don't form homosexual relationships. A dog humping another dog is a far cry from being gay.
So then why are you so for marriage? Animals don't meet up and have a fun little gathering in the woods and spend the rest of their lives together. In fact most animals hook up with random partners.

So then if we go by nature, you would be saying that it is cool to have huge orgies (snakes), homosexual encounters (dogs), ritualistic killings after sex is completed (mantis), multiple partners (cats).

And those perimeters that you say god laid down have been changed over the last 1600 years to the will of what the people that manipulated the bible decided that it would be. You realize that there was no latin word for homosexual (Someone correct me if I am wrong here).


It is tragic when a person is seriously injured, but the self sufficient person is always prepared. People don't realize that in good times, you can not go crazy and buy whatever you want. Why do people on welfare have tvs, computers, whatever? They can't support themselves, yet they can't miss "American Idol." Bad things happen to everybody, but it is up to no one else but yourself to recover.
You don't have to be on welfare to do this, infact I would say that most of them live much better within the means that they get than people with good paychecks, because they know that is all they are going to get. I can't tell you how many people I have met through the years that make over 100k a year and cannot seem to afford anything.


If you were truly a libertarian we would not have an issue. And you really sound Bi-partisan with all of your liberal supporting conservative hating remarks. Nice try. Don't even try to play that crap that you believe limited government, and ACTUALLY support the constitution.
But you continue to support taking people and saying that they are not allowed to have the same rights that you do. That is not limited government.

You need not fear what you don't understand.
 

Hayduke

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It is amazing how people are so locked up into there own prisons. I have not locked my doors for years and have not been ripped off yet. It may one day happen, but living my life without being constantly paranoid is a nice place to be.


So then why are you so for marriage? Animals don't meet up and have a fun little gathering in the woods and spend the rest of their lives together. In fact most animals hook up with random partners.

So then if we go by nature, you would be saying that it is cool to have huge orgies (snakes), homosexual encounters (dogs), ritualistic killings after sex is completed (mantis), multiple partners (cats).
I did not lock my doors while at home until I started to grow...can't trust the local swine. I do not lock my car.

Quadrupedal marriages and slutty cats! LOL!

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jrh72582

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People who come into this country illegally are illegal immagrants. They are breaking the law and do not deserve the same benefits as a citizen. And for those of you who don't believe in border security, why don't you take down the walls to your house. You would not let somebody into your house with your children without knowing who they are. If we ran this country like we run our households, the results would be a lot better.
And why is it our responsibility to take care of somebody else? If you screw up, take the punishment. I know I work hard for what I have, and to have somebody that isn't working, steal from me is pathetic. And then you make an excuse for them, saying, well their poor, and you shouldn't complain you have more than them. People get where they are by their own choices in life. You can't help somebody that isn't helping themselves. And we shouldn't care when that heroin addict dies in the street or is put in the hospital and WE the taxpayer support him.
They are pushing their lifestyle on us by forcing us to except homosexual marriage. I live in CA, and we have voted against this proposal several times, yet the voice of the people will not be heard. So yeah, I would say they are forcing it on me. I believe it is wrong to raise a child in a homosexual household. If they were a normal person, and accepted the laws of nature, they can bring a child into this world on their own. But don't take somebody elses kid and destroy their morals.
And thats what marriage is. It is a holy union before god. Most gays don't believe in god, and even attack him, yet they have no problem taking an oath before him. Government stay out of my church. God has laid the perimeters, its just up to us to follow them.And animals don't form homosexual relationships. A dog humping another dog is a far cry from being gay.
It is tragic when a person is seriously injured, but the self sufficient person is always prepared. People don't realize that in good times, you can not go crazy and buy whatever you want. Why do people on welfare have tvs, computers, whatever? They can't support themselves, yet they can't miss "American Idol." Bad things happen to everybody, but it is up to no one else but yourself to recover.
The biggest trick the rich ever played on the middle class was to get them to blame the POOR for their problems. Your anger is directed at the wrong groups, the victims so to speak. Wisen up - you're being played for a fool. You obviously hate the poor, but what about the rich? What about the stolen wealth? What about injustices committed on their parts?
 

Hayduke

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The biggest trick the rich ever played on the middle class was to get them to blame the POOR for their problems. Your anger is directed at the wrong groups, the victims so to speak. Wisen up - you're being played for a fool. You obviously hate the poor, but what about the rich? What about the stolen wealth? What about injustices committed on their parts?
Nice.

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