Inda Gro VPAR Induction Vertical Grow w/ Recycled Organic Living Soil

PSUAGRO. said:

Yes a halogen flood will do very well, in fact no "affordable" led even comes close..........I think supra? put up a chart on how effective it is at emitting far red.

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There're many halogen bulbs that put out far red. I've been reading a lot about just 730 nm exclusively works. I have to keep digging.

So something like this wouldnt work
http://www.hortamericas.com/catalog...54-greenpower-led-flowering-lamp-far-red.html

m4s73r said:

So something like this wouldnt work
http://www.hortamericas.com/catalog...54-greenpower-led-flowering-lamp-far-red.html

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no that's full spectrum with a heavy 660nm spike. You want only 730nm for those purposes. Quality 730nm led's are hard to find. Captain used these

http://growlightsource.com/products/the-flower-initiator-bud-booster-grow-lights/

https://www.rollitup.org/led-other-lighting/636892-poor-mans-diy-indagro-potoon.html


Apparently they have gone up in price..


Rrog use this halogen

http://www.bulbamerica.com/ge-60w-1...ferralID=0e54e6ef-e570-11e2-a969-001b2166c2c0

IG told me only 730 works. Looks like a DIY project.

I talked to Jeff at IG the day after I got the vpar . He told me watch the fans and temps. Too much cool airflow directed toward the induction bulbs can make them not as bright. I just walked in the room and it seemed the bulbs were dimmed down. Its cold nights again. After a few warm nights. Anyway. I turned off the oscillating fan. Pointed the intake fan away from canopy. Turned off lights for 5 min. Then turned them back on and they were very bright again.

Chaz please give your 2 cents on this....

The mercury amalgam will fully vaporize when the surface of the glass reaches 200 degrees F. Direct air flow across the surface of the glass from even oscillating fans can prevent the lamp from maintain that temp. Lamp output will drop unless you reposition the fans a bit. I try run fans below the lights facing down to over the largest area or I've had good experiences with positioning them under the canopy and oscillating the fans so air moves upward. The thing you want to and avoid is leaving sustained air movement across he surface of the glass.

Finally found some cheap 730nm lights!!!

RedCarpetMatches said:

Finally found some cheap 730nm lights!!!
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Lol........yeah good luck with that

It's day 24. cheese berry kush, northern lights og, cheese og, master kush. Things are moving along nicely. Trichome development has began already. Just watered with a compost tea and topdressed with some homemade vermicompost and kelp meal. It smells earthy and oceany in here. It's a good thing.


[video=youtube_share;7KcdGxIN81g]http://youtu.be/7KcdGxIN81g[/video]


One thing I'd like to add is the temps.. These 3 lights together put out close to the same heat +/- as 2 quantum badboy t5's . My old 1000w / 8.6 amps (quantum / digilux) put out far far more heat than all these together. I'm running 1340 watts / 11.1 amps

Yo i got a reccomendation that will make ur life easier, well two actually.

first is, u should invest in light movers, this would greatly improve everyhing about ur grow.

but what i really think would make ur life easier is to either build or buy, a board with wheels, that way u can easly rotate ur plants without having to pick up the soil.
this would eliminate u hurting ur back,
it would eliminate hurting the microbes because everytime u pick them up and put the pot down, it smashes the soil.
and last but not least it would obviously give more light coverage to all ur plants .
nice grow hyroot. Check ur inbox plz

I never pick them up. I slide the plants. I'm to lazy. Eventually I want to get mini pallots on wheels. Or at least pallots to sit on so the plants will get air from below. Eventually I plan to get movers. I want to get a circular one for the vpar so I can spin it 360 degrees tall ways. Do true vert. The only ones I can find are so damn expensive. Plus a regular 2 lamp light mover for the 420's
I also plan on getting a new scrub filter and vortex s fans and set up a few more worm bins first.

Nice video bro. You may have already mentioned this but I was wondering if you are running ESC on all these plants or are you running some with and without to compare?

chazbolin said:

Nice video bro. You may have already mentioned this but I was wondering if you are running ESC on all these plants or are you running some with and without to compare?

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I'm running it on some. 2 cheese berry's 1, cheese og and the NL x Og pheno 2 and one of the pheno 3's. In my veg. They have been waters 5 times total. 1 compost tea then 2 seed sprout enzyme teas, then plain water. Then a nutrient tea of just kelp meal and alfalfa meal. Roots are growing out the bottom. That started after the last tea.

Nice bump in efficiency. Any idea what that translates to per month $$$ wise?

hyroot said:

It's day 24. cheese berry kush, northern lights og, cheese og, master kush. Things are moving along nicely. Trichome development has began already. Just watered with a compost tea and topdressed with some homemade vermicompost and kelp meal. It smells earthy and oceany in here. It's a good thing.


[video=youtube_share;7KcdGxIN81g]http://youtu.be/7KcdGxIN81g[/video]


One thing I'd like to add is the temps.. These 3 lights together put out close to the same heat +/- as 2 quantum badboy t5's . My old 1000w / 8.6 amps (quantum / digilux) put out far far more heat than all these together. I'm running 1340 watts / 11.1 amps

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PetFlora said:

Nice bump in efficiency. Any idea what that translates to per month $$$ wise?

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I pay $0.08 per kwh so it cost me $38.50 a month in electricity.

I don't run a/c or heater. bring in air via 37 watt inline fan and one oscillating 67 watt fan

Plants are caked in so much more trichomes than the other day. I'm loving the results so far.

Any new future strains in the works? I'd love to blast on some cheese berry.

hyroot - you seem to really understand all the brews really well. I'm a hydro guy that's always just both nutes off the shelf. Where can I read more about making my own teas etc.? I think this is probably a big hole in my learning.

green.green said:

hyroot - you seem to really understand all the brews really well. I'm a hydro guy that's always just both nutes off the shelf. Where can I read more about making my own teas etc.? I think this is probably a big hole in my learning.

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Lots to read. for me it was trial and error before ever reading anything . My first tea was using budswel from the gauno company. Then after that I started using the earth juice rainbow mix. Then I started reading and watching everything from Dr. Elaine Ingram. Then I learned topdressing worked better nute wise and I didn't want to do guano teas anymore but just do compost teas. I picked up some ancient forest. Later started using ecoscraps (cheaper) later learned ancient forest is just peat moss and a rip off.. I played with different types of molasses. Eventually I settled using brer rabbit brand. Then I read microbe mans stuff. I didn't entirely agree with everything he says. He is more of a sales man. But has a few good points. Then later foud the book teaming with microbes. Its a must have. I have read it a few times You can download it as torrent for free off kickass.to. After getting involved recycled living organics after reading Cann's thread before the rols thread was made by Headtreep. There I learned about seed sprout teas and recipes by Cootz. He was on ic rag but then they all started the seeddepot forums. Which that forum hasn't seem to work lately. They are in the organic section there. Making your own castings and compost ie vermicompost . which will give you better results in teas and topdressing than any store bought.

then with sst (seed sprout teas). headtreep posted he uses mung beans. so I tried it and it worked. I found that mung beans have a lot of potassium / sugars and iron and calcium. plus small amounts of nitrogen, phos, magnesium, magnanese, zinc, copper, sulfur. the nutrient recipe I use is actually Cootz's recipe


1 cu ft peat moss
1 cu ft vermicompost
1/2 cu ft pumice

1/2 cup crabmeal
1/2 cup neem meal
1/2 cup kelp meal
4 cups of rock dust (glacial or basalt) if using soft rock phosphate 1 cup

I learned of the various uses of aloe there too.

http://www.microbeorganics.com/

http://teamingwithmicrobes.com/home/ http://books.google.com/books/about/Teaming_with_Microbes.html?id=r3ZsL47QiVQC

http://www.amazon.com/The-Compost-Tea-Brewing-Manual/dp/B0006S6JVK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dEJg0Ob5cg

http://www.youtube.com/user/SustainableStudies

https://www.rollitup.org/organics/634028-canns-organic-no-till-garden.html

https://www.rollitup.org/organics/636057-recycled-organic-living-soil-rols.html

https://www.rollitup.org/organics/676040-total-noob-using-teas-i.html

https://www.rollitup.org/organics/762400-beneficial-indigenous-micro-organisms-bim.html

https://www.rollitup.org/organics/637587-vermicomposters-unite-official-worm-farmers.html

https://www.rollitup.org/organics/753111-correct-way-make-actively-aerated.html

RedCarpetMatches said:

Any new future strains in the works? I'd love to blast on some cheese berry.

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I have a platinum skywalker from seed in veg thats about it on new stuff. I plan on picking up some tga gear at the L.A. Cup in Feb.