Indoor CFL/Reflected Bagseed? "arizona" grow. need some infos...
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hyperan
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they turn orange as it starts getting towards the end of flowering and will begin retracting back towards the plant. everythings looking great man, the plant looks healthy. You may start seeing some yellowing in leaves soonish as the buds start taking nutes away from the veg on the plant as well so don't sweat that. keep doing what you're doing, it's working.
MDEVA
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Hey XTACTIC - I grew one plant with CFL's, and here's my suggestion. At this point, now that "stretching" has slowed, and flowering has increased - it's time to switch out the Daylight, or 6500k, colored bulbs for some 2700k's. Basically what you get with CFL's is the 6500K bulbs most closely resemble the suns spectrum during early spring and summer when plants are GROWING.... the 2700K bulbs more closely resemble the sun's spectrum during late summer and Fall when most plants produce "fruit" or start budding. I just kept telling myself that it doesn't matter, so I left the 6500k's in there too long........ BUT as soon as I took them out and added nothing but 2700K (3000k should work fine, don't go over that) my buds started really packing on weight and growing fast. I would also add a few bulbs if you've got the space. On top of that I would make sure to keep a fan going to help with temperature and fresh air exchange. Also during this time, make sure you limit the amount of exposure she has to light during her "dark" period. For one, it will be less stressful; secondly it will reduce the chance of getting a hermie plant. Hope this helps. The plant is definitely stretchy looking, but she's green and looks pretty healthy so who the hell cares. What you may end up with though (due to limited amount of light) is kind of "fluffy" "loose" buds - but again - who the hell cares? It won't be the best bud structure you've ever seen, or the biggest buds, but if you're like every other person who enjoys toking, you're going to break the buds up anyways and put in a pipe, bong, paper, blunt, vaporizer etc. SOOOO happy growing, it won't be too long and you'll have a nice lil bag of homegrown ganja to smoke with friends and family. Hope that helps - congrats - plant looks healthy buddy.
@hyperan - thanks man. i believe that must be what im seeing in the most bottom fan leaf at the moment, it appears to lack chlorophyll or something looks light green kinda much more see-through than the top. The flowering leafs on the top however, are practically solid like electrical tape strangely enough. too green to be thru, has some kind of stickyness on it (resin maybe)
@ MDEVA - appreciate all the info man, and it hear ya. I will definately Add some 2700k's soon as.. the more light the better right?.... i also ocassionally give it some sunlight. not really sure what colour the sunlight is close to the equator right now, but it definately is reddish-orange in the early and evening... 12 pm though, seems pretty much like 6500k to me. im sure the spectrum of light from the sun changes right through the day though, from all the clouds, haze, sahara dust and what not...... ur definately right. it doesnt matter if it's not dank anything is cool its mostly just for the expeerience here, and seeing the little beauty grow
not like bud is scarce on earth or anything
@ MDEVA - appreciate all the info man, and it hear ya. I will definately Add some 2700k's soon as.. the more light the better right?.... i also ocassionally give it some sunlight. not really sure what colour the sunlight is close to the equator right now, but it definately is reddish-orange in the early and evening... 12 pm though, seems pretty much like 6500k to me. im sure the spectrum of light from the sun changes right through the day though, from all the clouds, haze, sahara dust and what not...... ur definately right. it doesnt matter if it's not dank anything is cool its mostly just for the expeerience here, and seeing the little beauty grow
not like bud is scarce on earth or anything
MDEVA
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Good Luck man. I'm sure they will be fine. More light should mean bigger harvest... I've seen other people using just a few small wattage CFL and end up getting tiny buds, and not enough of them. When I had 850 actual watts of CFL, I got buds similar to what you would see with and HID light - not quite as big, but definitely bigger than what 50 watts will do.
intenseneal
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Leaves are looking a little droopy to me. May be over watering or needing water. More lighting will give you more, bigger and tighter buds. Try to put as much light as you can in there. Look into T5 HO lighting for a cheap compact lighting.
I know, the leaves are actually "clawing" or folding under in the margin, but they seem to have to open-back a bit out when they get their asses burnt in the sun. I added more soil though, and pressed it down a bit, my soil was kind of 'fluffy' like not very dense. I am not yet sure what exactly is the cause, and yeah, my bottom 4 sets of fan leaves are actually just drooped down at roughly a 45 degree angle... but the thing is i dont know if it's underwatering or overwating. I excavated some of the soil and noticed that it was cool-moistened my fingers, but I added water an things got slightly better. So i really dont know it's kind of like teasing me I think. I think the soil is loosing water fast when it's a hot day and holding too much when it's a cool day I really don't know man im still working on this. Thats the only problem im really having right now...
Yeah my current lighting sucks but that's all i got to put towards it, i might add one or two more lights, but it gets SUNlight sometimes... it's pretty much atleast 10-15 x more potent than my CFL setup on a partly cloudy day..... gotta love the sunlight. So yeah this grow isn't actually strictly CFL at all, although it's a low-wattage CFL grow for the most part, and the plant is pretty small only 26 inches above the soil (berried her a little though), so she is maybe 28 inches on the stalk.
I know what ya mean the CFL's are small buds I can definately see where in the underneat of the plant, that the white hairs are oh so small compared to the much thicker ones on the top where it gets all the light... the ones on the underneat are thin wisps compared to the top.
Also i'm not really smelling anything yet... been about 35 days into flowering i think. But I zoomed in with a 15x micro and am seeing thrichomes or whatever you call those little velcro head looking things. they are CLEAR according to what i could see, and not much of them yet, but they are on the leaves. and very few of the hairs are starting to turn orange from the tip go down though.....
can't wait for it to SMELL. i wonder if the extreme heat is ruining it.. things get to a toasty 35 celcius for about atleast half of the day sometimes, and even so it's not even too sunnny either. bad weather and poor lighting too
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Much less droop today though, from the picture above a few days ago. so will see
A bit confused as to it's health at the moment, but will keep updated.
Yeah my current lighting sucks but that's all i got to put towards it, i might add one or two more lights, but it gets SUNlight sometimes... it's pretty much atleast 10-15 x more potent than my CFL setup on a partly cloudy day..... gotta love the sunlight. So yeah this grow isn't actually strictly CFL at all, although it's a low-wattage CFL grow for the most part, and the plant is pretty small only 26 inches above the soil (berried her a little though), so she is maybe 28 inches on the stalk.
I know what ya mean the CFL's are small buds I can definately see where in the underneat of the plant, that the white hairs are oh so small compared to the much thicker ones on the top where it gets all the light... the ones on the underneat are thin wisps compared to the top.
Also i'm not really smelling anything yet... been about 35 days into flowering i think. But I zoomed in with a 15x micro and am seeing thrichomes or whatever you call those little velcro head looking things. they are CLEAR according to what i could see, and not much of them yet, but they are on the leaves. and very few of the hairs are starting to turn orange from the tip go down though.....
can't wait for it to SMELL. i wonder if the extreme heat is ruining it.. things get to a toasty 35 celcius for about atleast half of the day sometimes, and even so it's not even too sunnny either. bad weather and poor lighting too
.... Much less droop today though, from the picture above a few days ago. so will see
A bit confused as to it's health at the moment, but will keep updated.
Yikes. Just saw my plant today (didn't water it yesterday).... and it's pretty much drooping badly. Almost wilting. Apparently this plant needs water almost every day!! How can that be?
Update:..
well that's impressive. in as little as 10-15 minutes the leaves are already back up and standing.. and now 30 mins later fully alert.
my heat situation apparently is drawing so much water. might need to actually cover my soil top.. or will that be a bad idea?
should i just water it everyday then? i typically use 500 ml of tap water in the early morning.. this is with a 5 gallon container
Update:..
well that's impressive. in as little as 10-15 minutes the leaves are already back up and standing.. and now 30 mins later fully alert.
my heat situation apparently is drawing so much water. might need to actually cover my soil top.. or will that be a bad idea?
should i just water it everyday then? i typically use 500 ml of tap water in the early morning.. this is with a 5 gallon container
hmm, kind of surprised you' d have those kind of water needs, i have warm setup in 2 gallon pot and water once a week usually
still, if it responds well to the watering it's hard to argue against it
i do cover my soil with a layer of pebbles, it keeps perlite from floating to the top of the soil and gets roots right up the top of the soil
still, if it responds well to the watering it's hard to argue against it
i do cover my soil with a layer of pebbles, it keeps perlite from floating to the top of the soil and gets roots right up the top of the soil
Well the heat can and do get quite hot . you know. it at times can reach up to 38 celcius for like 6 hours... half of it's light cycle. and maybe the soil has good drainage.and it diffuses prety well.
coming to think of it, it might actually be good so that it isn't water logged at any point in time.
but the heat, is directly related to the weather, so if a couple of days are consecutivly rainy... i dont need to water for like 3 days. a hot day is a hot day though. i mean, you start to drip sweat within 2-3 minutes kinda heat. not 'warm' by american standards, this is the caribbean bro. 20-24c for us is cool not hot. hot is above 30c. and 18 celcius is Cold, not summer.
coming to think of it, it might actually be good so that it isn't water logged at any point in time.
but the heat, is directly related to the weather, so if a couple of days are consecutivly rainy... i dont need to water for like 3 days. a hot day is a hot day though. i mean, you start to drip sweat within 2-3 minutes kinda heat. not 'warm' by american standards, this is the caribbean bro. 20-24c for us is cool not hot. hot is above 30c. and 18 celcius is Cold, not summer.
sup rollit-da-****-up folx
i'm back after temporarily dying. but here i am.
ok this plant is more or less strugglin and suffering with the stupid HEAT and i broke a 42watter 6500k daylight ". but i did add another 13w 2700k tho. yeah i know it's all little shit lites but thats all i got to put on this.
anyway umm..
fresh pics at... damn. day 63 of flowering
and yet it looks like you know.. maybe week 3 of someone else's HPS/MH/big CFL's grow heh. but that's expected with all the stresses it went through.
anyway... what causes the leaves to go yellow and then dry up? i completely lost about 4 bottom fan leaves due to that. they start to turn yellow and after a few days i think it dries up to brown and then crispifies and droops like dead shit, and it also crumfles very easily into like a powder and smells like nothing you should ever try to smoke.
so im guessing well that's my fertilizer is out right? because i haven't fertilized this bitch in like just over a month. so today i checked to see what ferts i have and i put a few pellets of blue pebbles in a 400ml of water and vigirously shook it and then watered the plants, and also dozed another cup of 400ml of pure water untop of that. very very slight fert because this shit is apparently PALM fert so it's 12-12-17....... but don't worry i'm pretty sure i went very light on that and diluted it alot. also since my plant needs so much water due to the heat i could easily flush it if needed.
Oh yeah i'm down to like 90 watts of CFL but she get's sunlight for up to 6 hours of the day these days, sometimes 3-4 days a week. so that's how i am currently combatting the lack of light also, it's alot cooler when she's getting the sunlight since it's not in a radiated heat shed but still not in the open.
Smells... uhm, still don't get anything too much, but if i lock it in up with little to no ventilation, then i can smell a slight fruity scent. i would say very much like lime fruit loops... but faint
i sacrified like 3 of the lowest side brenches and put them to dry lol, not a fuckin' scent at all. and also by what you could see, no leaves/flower density. its just mostly white/red hairs right now. FLUFFY. one or two of the pods where the hair comes out tho is actually covered in thc i believe, looking almost like kush!! guess those areas were literally kissing the 2700k lights.
ok enuf rambling here are some pics... prepared to be disappointed :O
Day 63 from flowering................. Click to ENLARGE
i'm back after temporarily dying. but here i am.
ok this plant is more or less strugglin and suffering with the stupid HEAT and i broke a 42watter 6500k daylight "
. but i did add another 13w 2700k tho. yeah i know it's all little shit lites but thats all i got to put on this.anyway umm..
fresh pics at... damn. day 63 of flowering
and yet it looks like you know.. maybe week 3 of someone else's HPS/MH/big CFL's grow heh. but that's expected with all the stresses it went through.
anyway... what causes the leaves to go yellow and then dry up? i completely lost about 4 bottom fan leaves due to that. they start to turn yellow and after a few days i think it dries up to brown and then crispifies and droops like dead shit, and it also crumfles very easily into like a powder and smells like nothing you should ever try to smoke.
so im guessing well that's my fertilizer is out right? because i haven't fertilized this bitch in like just over a month. so today i checked to see what ferts i have and i put a few pellets of blue pebbles in a 400ml of water and vigirously shook it and then watered the plants, and also dozed another cup of 400ml of pure water untop of that. very very slight fert because this shit is apparently PALM fert so it's 12-12-17....... but don't worry i'm pretty sure i went very light on that and diluted it alot. also since my plant needs so much water due to the heat i could easily flush it if needed.
Oh yeah i'm down to like 90 watts of CFL
but she get's sunlight for up to 6 hours of the day these days, sometimes 3-4 days a week. so that's how i am currently combatting the lack of light also, it's alot cooler when she's getting the sunlight since it's not in a radiated heat shed but still not in the open.Smells... uhm, still don't get anything too much, but if i lock it in up with little to no ventilation, then i can smell a slight fruity scent. i would say very much like lime fruit loops... but faint
i sacrified like 3 of the lowest side brenches and put them to dry lol, not a fuckin' scent at all. and also by what you could see, no leaves/flower density. its just mostly white/red hairs right now. FLUFFY. one or two of the pods where the hair comes out tho is actually covered in thc i believe, looking almost like kush!! guess those areas were literally kissing the 2700k lights.
ok enuf rambling here are some pics... prepared to be disappointed :O
Day 63 from flowering................. Click to ENLARGE
Kieshed
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Nice grow Reggae artist Marlon Ashton mentions that strain in a track `ganja cowboy ` . I just harvested from 120 watts yet to realy trim it and get a dryweight . Was done with a similar setup desklamps and cfl`s . Will be awesome to see what you get bud is looking nice looks like you could let it mature for a week or two longer though needs to develop some resin , but shortening it`s cycle does seem to make it mature faster .
. I just harvested from 120 watts yet to realy trim it and get a dryweight . Was done with a similar setup desklamps and cfl`s . Will be awesome to see what you get bud is looking nice looks like you could let it mature for a week or two longer though needs to develop some resin , but shortening it`s cycle does seem to make it mature faster .Dudes.... i just realised something this morning..... a odd looking flower with like what i think is little balls? but i see some Green hairs coming out of them. they are really really small and that's the only one's i so i cut it out with a nose trimming scissor to avoid any risks. then when i took the whole thing in my palm hand i saw like a banana
lol . i think it hermied but i dont know if i was quick enough. please show me some macros of forming male flowers on hermies or something.
i will update thread with pics. it was super small though.im rooting for being early
lol . i think it hermied but i dont know if i was quick enough. please show me some macros of forming male flowers on hermies or something.
i will update thread with pics. it was super small though.im rooting for being early